Re: [MBZ] ADHD
Uh ... You're a loser. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > Your a looser. > > --R > > > -- When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers. -- Oscar Wilde ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADHD
That's how I think of them --- On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:25 PM, John Reames wrote: > Iirc, and at least in my book, > Jelly-made from something akin to (filtered) juice; that is to say that > there is no pulp in it whatsoever. > Jam-made from strained juice; some pulp, no chunks. > Preserves-enough jam to hold together recognizable (cut) pieces of fruit. > Marmalade-preserves-"lite" for citrus; basically some candied peel thrown > into jam. > > -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADHD
The school our kids attended did try to teach spelling, but if the parents didn't also work with them at home, it didn't work. Some parents actively discourage learning at school - only sent the kids to get them out of their hair and to avoid trouble with the law. No wonder society is falling apart. When I read reports and email from people at work who don't know which word to use, or mismatch subject/verb, I usually discount what they have to say, if I can even finish reading it. No, getting it down on paper is NOT enough. Our three girls all graduated from ivies - and wrtie very nicely. Our son is in engineering school, and his writing leaves something to be desired, but the school is imphasising writing/communication skills, and he's learned the value at the two internships he's had. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Our kids got that "spelling doesn't matter" "just get your ideas on paper" > crap at school in the US too. When they got home, they were told that > spelling does matter, and we tried to illustrate WHY it matters. > > One is finishing up his Ph.D. and the other spells and writes quite nicely > too. > > These days, if you send your kids to school, you have to "unlearn" them at > home and teach them properly anyway. So, you may as well homeschool in the > first place. > -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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John wrote: > Etymology is good stuff! Yep - all that fun and more. I always liked the word the teacher liked - which is an actual dictionary word. Sesquipedalianist - one who uses foot-and-a-half long words. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Etymology is good stuff! You can (ab)use it to: -poke fun at nonsense words (irregardless and inflammable come to mind...) -create "new" words by (in)appropriately utilizing appropriate prefixes and suffixes (signage comes to mind... As does converting nouns to verbs and vice-versa) -engage in other forms of wordplay; a classic example is the "what is the opposite of progress" one. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 8, 2010, at 16:28, Mountain Man wrote: > Larry wrote: >> Others, taught phonetically can sound the word out and read it properly >> often learning the meaning by the context it was used in in the sentence. > > One of the most memorable classes senior year of high school was > etymology If I recall correctly, much of the prefixes, suffixes, and > roots we were forced to memorize. Tough course, but fundamentally one > of the most widely usable courses I recall in high school. Of course, > any course that was hard was memorable, it seems. When ya gotta bust > your butt, you learn and enjoy the task. > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADHD
Walt Zarnoch wrote: Spanish class was a joke... I'd have much rather learned Polish, Latin, or etc, but no, Spanish was all that was offered(forced if I remember right). Spanish was all that was offered at my school. We had a Columbian to teach it. She was probably good at it, but nobody liked her much, and most of the better students would rather take something other than Spanish. I would have chosen German before Spanish. A friend and I discovered that our elderly English teacher had taught Latin, and the textbooks were still around. It mattered little that the textbooks were older than we were, Latin was a dead language and nothing changed since the books were printed. We recruited 15-20 other kids and lobbied for a Latin class. It was good. Too bad I've forgotten virtually all of it since then. Don't ask me to conjugate a Latin verb, even if I were allowed to pick the verb. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADHD
Iirc, and at least in my book, Jelly-made from something akin to (filtered) juice; that is to say that there is no pulp in it whatsoever. Jam-made from strained juice; some pulp, no chunks. Preserves-enough jam to hold together recognizable (cut) pieces of fruit. Marmalade-preserves-"lite" for citrus; basically some candied peel thrown into jam. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 8, 2010, at 15:46, Walt Zarnoch wrote: > The country you're in, if there's fruit present in the final product, > that's about what I can remember. > Don't ever ask me which is what... > > Walt > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:41 PM, andrew strasfogel > wrote: >> I have to admit I have problems using that vs. which in some cases. >> >> BTW, on a totally unrelated topic, what are the criteria that differentiate >> 1) jam, 2) jelly, 3) preserves, and 4) marmalade from each other? >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:19 PM, WILTON wrote: >> >>> Well, how 'bout "that" for "who?" ;<))) >>> >>> Wilton >>> >>> ----- Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" < >>> astrasfo...@gmail.com> >>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:04 AM >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADHD >>> >>> >>> I am a total PIA when it come to correcting people who don't differentiate >>>> lay from lie, or who use the possessive rather than nominative pronoun as >>>> the subject of a sentence, as in "Her/him and Joe went to the movies." >>>> Oddly, it's only done using a conjuction, e.g. never "Her/him went to the >>>> movies". I have also yet to hear "Them and Joe went ..." nor "Her and my >>>> went...", although "Her/him and me went..." is quite popular. I've >>>> noticed >>>> this from westerners, midwesterners, southerners, and the odd >>>> Manitoban (Randy excepted). >>>> What really cracks me up is when my yoga instructor said, rather self >>>> consciously, "let's all *lie* down on the mat", followed by "While you're >>>> * >>>> laying* there breathe deeply..." >>>> >>>> Andrew >>>> 1983 and 1985 300TDs >>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:15 AM, John Reames wrote: >>>> >>>> There are those that are firmly convinced that americans have wodgered the >>>>> queen's English to death... >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> John W Reames >>>>> jwrea...@comcast.net >>>>> Home: +14106646986 >>>>> Mobile: +14437915905 >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:59, Hendrik & Fay wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Since you are volunteering and have a superior grasp of spelling and >>>>> grammar, I suggest we all send our posts to you for correction and/or >>>>> approval and then you can forward them with your stamp of approval. I >>>>> suppose the stamp could say "This email has been wodgered right up". >>>>>> >>>>>> Hendrik >>>>>> who is taking a big chance and sending this straight to the list, may > >>>>> God >>>>> (or Roger) have mercy on my soul >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> relng...@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>> ...Around here they seem to just let the kids wonder the classrooms, >>>>>>>> wonder the halls, listen to their headphones during class, just >>>>>>>> wantever it seem. Geez >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> A living example of the subject. Why don't you have someone edit this >>>>> for you and repost it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RLE >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.c
Re: [MBZ] ADHD
Spanish class was a joke... I'd have much rather learned Polish, Latin, or etc, but no, Spanish was all that was offered(forced if I remember right). Walt On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > If you take Latin you will be much better equipped to understand English (a > good part of it), Spanish, etc. and medical stuff. > > --R > > On 11/8/10 4:28 PM, Mountain Man wrote: >> >> Larry wrote: >> >>> >>> Others, taught phonetically can sound the word out and read it properly >>> often learning the meaning by the context it was used in in the sentence. >>> >> >> One of the most memorable classes senior year of high school was >> etymology If I recall correctly, much of the prefixes, suffixes, and >> roots we were forced to memorize. Tough course, but fundamentally one >> of the most widely usable courses I recall in high school. Of course, >> any course that was hard was memorable, it seems. When ya gotta bust >> your butt, you learn and enjoy the task. >> mao >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADHD
If you take Latin you will be much better equipped to understand English (a good part of it), Spanish, etc. and medical stuff. --R On 11/8/10 4:28 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Larry wrote: Others, taught phonetically can sound the word out and read it properly often learning the meaning by the context it was used in in the sentence. One of the most memorable classes senior year of high school was etymology If I recall correctly, much of the prefixes, suffixes, and roots we were forced to memorize. Tough course, but fundamentally one of the most widely usable courses I recall in high school. Of course, any course that was hard was memorable, it seems. When ya gotta bust your butt, you learn and enjoy the task. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Larry wrote: > Others, taught phonetically can sound the word out and read it properly > often learning the meaning by the context it was used in in the sentence. One of the most memorable classes senior year of high school was etymology If I recall correctly, much of the prefixes, suffixes, and roots we were forced to memorize. Tough course, but fundamentally one of the most widely usable courses I recall in high school. Of course, any course that was hard was memorable, it seems. When ya gotta bust your butt, you learn and enjoy the task. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADHD
The country you're in, if there's fruit present in the final product, that's about what I can remember. Don't ever ask me which is what... Walt On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:41 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > I have to admit I have problems using that vs. which in some cases. > > BTW, on a totally unrelated topic, what are the criteria that differentiate > 1) jam, 2) jelly, 3) preserves, and 4) marmalade from each other? > > > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:19 PM, WILTON wrote: > >> Well, how 'bout "that" for "who?" ;<))) >> >> Wilton >> >> - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" < >> astrasfo...@gmail.com> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:04 AM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADHD >> >> >> I am a total PIA when it come to correcting people who don't differentiate >>> lay from lie, or who use the possessive rather than nominative pronoun as >>> the subject of a sentence, as in "Her/him and Joe went to the movies." >>> Oddly, it's only done using a conjuction, e.g. never "Her/him went to the >>> movies". I have also yet to hear "Them and Joe went ..." nor "Her and my >>> went...", although "Her/him and me went..." is quite popular. I've >>> noticed >>> this from westerners, midwesterners, southerners, and the odd >>> Manitoban (Randy excepted). >>> What really cracks me up is when my yoga instructor said, rather self >>> consciously, "let's all *lie* down on the mat", followed by "While you're >>> * >>> laying* there breathe deeply..." >>> >>> Andrew >>> 1983 and 1985 300TDs >>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:15 AM, John Reames wrote: >>> >>> There are those that are firmly convinced that americans have wodgered the >>>> queen's English to death... >>>> >>>> -- >>>> John W Reames >>>> jwrea...@comcast.net >>>> Home: +14106646986 >>>> Mobile: +14437915905 >>>> >>>> On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:59, Hendrik & Fay wrote: >>>> >>>> > Since you are volunteering and have a superior grasp of spelling and >>>> grammar, I suggest we all send our posts to you for correction and/or >>>> approval and then you can forward them with your stamp of approval. I >>>> suppose the stamp could say "This email has been wodgered right up". >>>> > >>>> > Hendrik >>>> > who is taking a big chance and sending this straight to the list, may > >>>> God >>>> (or Roger) have mercy on my soul >>>> >>>> > >>>> > relng...@aol.com wrote: >>>> >>> ...Around here they seem to just let the kids wonder the classrooms, >>>> >>> wonder the halls, listen to their headphones during class, just >>>> >>> wantever it seem. Geez >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> A living example of the subject. Why don't you have someone edit this >>>> for you and repost it. >>>> >> >>>> >> RLE >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ___ >>>> > http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> > >>>> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADHD
I have to admit I have problems using that vs. which in some cases. BTW, on a totally unrelated topic, what are the criteria that differentiate 1) jam, 2) jelly, 3) preserves, and 4) marmalade from each other? On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:19 PM, WILTON wrote: > Well, how 'bout "that" for "who?" ;<))) > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" < > astrasfo...@gmail.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:04 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADHD > > > I am a total PIA when it come to correcting people who don't differentiate >> lay from lie, or who use the possessive rather than nominative pronoun as >> the subject of a sentence, as in "Her/him and Joe went to the movies." >> Oddly, it's only done using a conjuction, e.g. never "Her/him went to the >> movies". I have also yet to hear "Them and Joe went ..." nor "Her and my >> went...", although "Her/him and me went..." is quite popular. I've >> noticed >> this from westerners, midwesterners, southerners, and the odd >> Manitoban (Randy excepted). >> What really cracks me up is when my yoga instructor said, rather self >> consciously, "let's all *lie* down on the mat", followed by "While you're >> * >> laying* there breathe deeply..." >> >> Andrew >> 1983 and 1985 300TDs >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:15 AM, John Reames wrote: >> >> There are those that are firmly convinced that americans have wodgered the >>> queen's English to death... >>> >>> -- >>> John W Reames >>> jwrea...@comcast.net >>> Home: +14106646986 >>> Mobile: +14437915905 >>> >>> On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:59, Hendrik & Fay wrote: >>> >>> > Since you are volunteering and have a superior grasp of spelling and >>> grammar, I suggest we all send our posts to you for correction and/or >>> approval and then you can forward them with your stamp of approval. I >>> suppose the stamp could say "This email has been wodgered right up". >>> > >>> > Hendrik >>> > who is taking a big chance and sending this straight to the list, may > >>> God >>> (or Roger) have mercy on my soul >>> >>> > >>> > relng...@aol.com wrote: >>> >>> ...Around here they seem to just let the kids wonder the classrooms, >>> >>> wonder the halls, listen to their headphones during class, just >>> >>> wantever it seem. Geez >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> A living example of the subject. Why don't you have someone edit this >>> for you and repost it. >>> >> >>> >> RLE >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > ___ >>> > http://www.okiebenz.com >>> > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> > >>> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADHD
Well, how 'bout "that" for "who?" ;<))) Wilton - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADHD I am a total PIA when it come to correcting people who don't differentiate lay from lie, or who use the possessive rather than nominative pronoun as the subject of a sentence, as in "Her/him and Joe went to the movies." Oddly, it's only done using a conjuction, e.g. never "Her/him went to the movies". I have also yet to hear "Them and Joe went ..." nor "Her and my went...", although "Her/him and me went..." is quite popular. I've noticed this from westerners, midwesterners, southerners, and the odd Manitoban (Randy excepted). What really cracks me up is when my yoga instructor said, rather self consciously, "let's all *lie* down on the mat", followed by "While you're * laying* there breathe deeply..." Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TDs On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:15 AM, John Reames wrote: There are those that are firmly convinced that americans have wodgered the queen's English to death... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:59, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Since you are volunteering and have a superior grasp of spelling and grammar, I suggest we all send our posts to you for correction and/or approval and then you can forward them with your stamp of approval. I suppose the stamp could say "This email has been wodgered right up". > > Hendrik > who is taking a big chance and sending this straight to the list, may > God (or Roger) have mercy on my soul > > relng...@aol.com wrote: >>> ...Around here they seem to just let the kids wonder the classrooms, >>> wonder the halls, listen to their headphones during class, just >>> wantever it seem. Geez >>> >>> >> A living example of the subject. Why don't you have someone edit this for you and repost it. >> >> RLE >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I read somewhere that something like 70% of kids entering colleges must 1st take remedial courses to learn basic math and English.Sad... BTW, There's a TV commercial pushing a new "reading" where babies and young kids are shown reading at very young ages. They fail to mention, the kids have memorized the photos to know what word they represent. I went to Jr HS with a bunch of kids taught like this in the local school system in the 50s and 60s (very progressive you know). Trouble is when presented with a new word they have no clue what it says. So they're lost. Others, taught phonetically can sound the word out and read it properly often learning the meaning by the context it was used in in the sentence. People always want to take the easy route it seems. It's not always the best... LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: Dieselhead Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADHD Our kids got that "spelling doesn't matter" "just get your ideas on paper" crap at school in the US too. When they got home, they were told that spelling does matter, and we tried to illustrate WHY it matters. One is finishing up his Ph.D. and the other spells and writes quite nicely too. These days, if you send your kids to school, you have to "unlearn" them at home and teach them properly anyway. So, you may as well homeschool in the first place. You know, it was close enough that we all knew what he meant. My children, now in their 20's were taught in our schools, that it was more important to get one's ideas on the page than it was to do it correctly. I guess, on the assumption that it could be later edited and perhaps that they would learn to spell etc., by osmosis and the teachers would not have to put any real effort into such boring sujects as spelling and grammar. The result is that one of my son's has managed to learn by himself - he has a Master's Degree now - and the other is never going to win any spelling bees etc. The younger one was quite happy not to have to worry about things like spelling and at the age of 22, still does not do well in that regard. Randy On 07/11/2010 10:15 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Around here they seem to just let the kids wonder the classrooms, wonder the halls, listen to their headphones during class, just wantever it seem. Geez A living example of the subject. Why don't you have someone edit this for you and repost it. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADHD
Your a looser. --R On 11/8/10 11:04 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I am a total PIA when it come to correcting people who don't differentiate lay from lie, or who use the possessive rather than nominative pronoun as the subject of a sentence, as in "Her/him and Joe went to the movies." Oddly, it's only done using a conjuction, e.g. never "Her/him went to the movies". I have also yet to hear "Them and Joe went ..." nor "Her and my went...", although "Her/him and me went..." is quite popular. I've noticed this from westerners, midwesterners, southerners, and the odd Manitoban (Randy excepted). What really cracks me up is when my yoga instructor said, rather self consciously, "let's all *lie* down on the mat", followed by "While you're * laying* there breathe deeply..." Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TDs On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:15 AM, John Reames wrote: There are those that are firmly convinced that americans have wodgered the queen's English to death... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:59, Hendrik& Fay wrote: Since you are volunteering and have a superior grasp of spelling and grammar, I suggest we all send our posts to you for correction and/or approval and then you can forward them with your stamp of approval. I suppose the stamp could say "This email has been wodgered right up". Hendrik who is taking a big chance and sending this straight to the list, may God (or Roger) have mercy on my soul relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Around here they seem to just let the kids wonder the classrooms, wonder the halls, listen to their headphones during class, just wantever it seem. Geez A living example of the subject. Why don't you have someone edit this for you and repost it. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADHD
Our kids got that "spelling doesn't matter" "just get your ideas on paper" crap at school in the US too. When they got home, they were told that spelling does matter, and we tried to illustrate WHY it matters. One is finishing up his Ph.D. and the other spells and writes quite nicely too. These days, if you send your kids to school, you have to "unlearn" them at home and teach them properly anyway. So, you may as well homeschool in the first place. You know, it was close enough that we all knew what he meant. My children, now in their 20's were taught in our schools, that it was more important to get one's ideas on the page than it was to do it correctly. I guess, on the assumption that it could be later edited and perhaps that they would learn to spell etc., by osmosis and the teachers would not have to put any real effort into such boring sujects as spelling and grammar. The result is that one of my son's has managed to learn by himself - he has a Master's Degree now - and the other is never going to win any spelling bees etc. The younger one was quite happy not to have to worry about things like spelling and at the age of 22, still does not do well in that regard. Randy On 07/11/2010 10:15 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Around here they seem to just let the kids wonder the classrooms, wonder the halls, listen to their headphones during class, just wantever it seem. Geez A living example of the subject. Why don't you have someone edit this for you and repost it. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You know, it was close enough that we all knew what he meant. My children, now in their 20's were taught in our schools, that it was more important to get one's ideas on the page than it was to do it correctly. I guess, on the assumption that it could be later edited and perhaps that they would learn to spell etc., by osmosis and the teachers would not have to put any real effort into such boring sujects as spelling and grammar. The result is that one of my son's has managed to learn by himself - he has a Master's Degree now - and the other is never going to win any spelling bees etc. The younger one was quite happy not to have to worry about things like spelling and at the age of 22, still does not do well in that regard. Randy On 07/11/2010 10:15 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Around here they seem to just let the kids wonder the classrooms, wonder the halls, listen to their headphones during class, just wantever it seem. Geez A living example of the subject. Why don't you have someone edit this for you and repost it. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADHD
I am a total PIA when it come to correcting people who don't differentiate lay from lie, or who use the possessive rather than nominative pronoun as the subject of a sentence, as in "Her/him and Joe went to the movies." Oddly, it's only done using a conjuction, e.g. never "Her/him went to the movies". I have also yet to hear "Them and Joe went ..." nor "Her and my went...", although "Her/him and me went..." is quite popular. I've noticed this from westerners, midwesterners, southerners, and the odd Manitoban (Randy excepted). What really cracks me up is when my yoga instructor said, rather self consciously, "let's all *lie* down on the mat", followed by "While you're * laying* there breathe deeply..." Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TDs On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:15 AM, John Reames wrote: > There are those that are firmly convinced that americans have wodgered the > queen's English to death... > > -- > John W Reames > jwrea...@comcast.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:59, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > > > Since you are volunteering and have a superior grasp of spelling and > grammar, I suggest we all send our posts to you for correction and/or > approval and then you can forward them with your stamp of approval. I > suppose the stamp could say "This email has been wodgered right up". > > > > Hendrik > > who is taking a big chance and sending this straight to the list, may God > (or Roger) have mercy on my soul > > > > relng...@aol.com wrote: > >>> ...Around here they seem to just let the kids wonder the classrooms, > >>> wonder the halls, listen to their headphones during class, just > >>> wantever it seem. Geez > >>> > >>> > >> A living example of the subject. Why don't you have someone edit this > for you and repost it. > >> > >> RLE > >> > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADHD
There are those that are firmly convinced that americans have wodgered the queen's English to death... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:59, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Since you are volunteering and have a superior grasp of spelling and grammar, > I suggest we all send our posts to you for correction and/or approval and > then you can forward them with your stamp of approval. I suppose the stamp > could say "This email has been wodgered right up". > > Hendrik > who is taking a big chance and sending this straight to the list, may God (or > Roger) have mercy on my soul > > relng...@aol.com wrote: >>> ...Around here they seem to just let the kids wonder the classrooms, >>> wonder the halls, listen to their headphones during class, just >>> wantever it seem. Geez >>> >>> >> A living example of the subject. Why don't you have someone edit this for >> you and repost it. >> >> RLE >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Since you are volunteering and have a superior grasp of spelling and grammar, I suggest we all send our posts to you for correction and/or approval and then you can forward them with your stamp of approval. I suppose the stamp could say "This email has been wodgered right up". Hendrik who is taking a big chance and sending this straight to the list, may God (or Roger) have mercy on my soul relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Around here they seem to just let the kids wonder the classrooms, wonder the halls, listen to their headphones during class, just wantever it seem. Geez A living example of the subject. Why don't you have someone edit this for you and repost it. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> ...Around here they seem to just let the kids wonder the classrooms, > wonder the halls, listen to their headphones during class, just > wantever it seem. Geez > A living example of the subject. Why don't you have someone edit this for you and repost it. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com