Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking
Replace the pump, then see what it does. Bob Rentfro wrote: Each time I have to brake agressively, the engine almost stalls. The idle drops way below what it normally is and it doesn't recover unless I give it a bit of fuel with the foot feed. Today it happened again after some clown cut me off at a light, so I put it in neutral before it stalled and placing it in neutral had no effect. Ideas? Is this a known precursor to something. Is my brake booster stealing vacuum from the shutoff valve...wait that would make it stay running. Also...I've developed a wicked fuel leak (leaks a puddle the size of a trash can lid in 10 minutes) around the primer pump, but the odd thing is that some of the fuel is pooling in the recess on the top of the handle of the primer pump and it doesn't appear like it's leaking from above. Time to get fuely. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 159K '87 Acura Legend 177K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking
Put the new one on and leak is gone. Now I need to wait until some numbskull causes me to stop on the proverbial dime and we'll see if the low idle problem has been corrected. Why do you need an extra a-hole around to conduct this test? (The one you're equipped with should be sufficient! :-) -- Jim
[MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking
Each time I have to brake agressively, the engine almost stalls. The idle drops way below what it normally is and it doesn't recover unless I give it a bit of fuel with the foot feed. Today it happened again after some clown cut me off at a light, so I put it in neutral before it stalled and placing it in neutral had no effect. Ideas? Is this a known precursor to something. Is my brake booster stealing vacuum from the shutoff valve...wait that would make it stay running. Also...I've developed a wicked fuel leak (leaks a puddle the size of a trash can lid in 10 minutes) around the primer pump, but the odd thing is that some of the fuel is pooling in the recess on the top of the handle of the primer pump and it doesn't appear like it's leaking from above. Time to get fuely. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 159K '87 Acura Legend 177K Litchfield Park, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Sep 27 18:23:00 2006 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.183]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GSe3g-0001pp-Cr for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:23:00 + Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id i75so350005pye for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.117.5 with SMTP id u5mr1917909pym; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.84.3 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:22:49 -0500 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:23:01 - Wow. I do remember hearing about these now. Yet another reason I'm glad I don't ride a motorcycle anymore. However, cruising with the sunroof open offers a nice fieldgoal opportunity. If someone did see where the projectile came from, I'd be worried about them if they didn't pursue legal action against the perp. I suppose before the advent of cel phones it could be almost impossible to do anything. I mean you could angrily cruise next to the semi all the way to Albany without affecting any change. He likely has more fuel in the tank than you. Does AIDS get transmitted by urine? Or any other disease? Brian Engaging in all sorts of thought-provoking lately On 9/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb, A pee bomb is the latest in trucker's arsenal. Trucker pisses in a plastic water bottle as he drives. Seal her up with the screw in cap and throw it out the window at a car driver. Since the trucker has the high ground which is always rule number one in any confrontation, he has a distinct advantage in nailing you. Some times if they have a guy riding shot gun, it is much easier to be accurate. I have been hit by two on Route 80 in the last two years.Makes a nice thud at best, cracks your windshield, dents car and can cause an accident/injury/death at worst. Nice huhhh.please do no get me going about that industry... Regards Tom - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes What is a pee bomb? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the rule when a you are in a one lane construction zone which is 10 miles long you are doing 60 mph in a 55 construction zone and truckers are two inches from your bumper? What course of action should I take? What is the rule when trucks are doing 90mph in a 65 zone hauling 100,000 lbs? Is professional OSHA type safety a concern? Just a thought, cause traveling 50K miles a year on the Northeast highways I see allot of that. What is the rule when you get hit with apee bomb because my 66 hp 240d does not get over quick enough or cannot get over due to traffic in the right lane or heavy traffic? Regards Tom Scordato 19 79 240D 97K miles -- Kaleb C.
Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking
I'd spend the $15 to get a new primer pump and then see how things act... (: Levi On 9/27/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each time I have to brake agressively, the engine almost stalls. The idle drops way below what it normally is and it doesn't recover unless I give it a bit of fuel with the foot feed. Today it happened again after some clown cut me off at a light, so I put it in neutral before it stalled and placing it in neutral had no effect. Ideas? Is this a known precursor to something. Is my brake booster stealing vacuum from the shutoff valve...wait that would make it stay running. Also...I've developed a wicked fuel leak (leaks a puddle the size of a trash can lid in 10 minutes) around the primer pump, but the odd thing is that some of the fuel is pooling in the recess on the top of the handle of the primer pump and it doesn't appear like it's leaking from above. Time to get fuely. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 159K '87 Acura Legend 177K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking
I've got a replacement primer pump I'm going to install but it seems having a 22mm or 23mm crows foot kind of deal is almost essential. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking I'd spend the $15 to get a new primer pump and then see how things act... (: Levi On 9/27/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each time I have to brake agressively, the engine almost stalls. The idle drops way below what it normally is and it doesn't recover unless I give it a bit of fuel with the foot feed. Today it happened again after some clown cut me off at a light, so I put it in neutral before it stalled and placing it in neutral had no effect. Ideas? Is this a known precursor to something. Is my brake booster stealing vacuum from the shutoff valve...wait that would make it stay running. Also...I've developed a wicked fuel leak (leaks a puddle the size of a trash can lid in 10 minutes) around the primer pump, but the odd thing is that some of the fuel is pooling in the recess on the top of the handle of the primer pump and it doesn't appear like it's leaking from above. Time to get fuely. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 159K '87 Acura Legend 177K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking
As I recall, I just used a pair of vice grips to get the old pump out and the new one was smaller and went in without a problem with a normal wrench...(again, this was on an 83' 300D). now if you were going to install another of those old style pumps and/or try to reuse your old one, you'd prit-near have to remove the hoses and barbs from the lift pump itself to get room to get a wrench on there... Levi On 9/27/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a replacement primer pump I'm going to install but it seems having a 22mm or 23mm crows foot kind of deal is almost essential. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking I'd spend the $15 to get a new primer pump and then see how things act... (: Levi On 9/27/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each time I have to brake agressively, the engine almost stalls. The idle drops way below what it normally is and it doesn't recover unless I give it a bit of fuel with the foot feed. Today it happened again after some clown cut me off at a light, so I put it in neutral before it stalled and placing it in neutral had no effect. Ideas? Is this a known precursor to something. Is my brake booster stealing vacuum from the shutoff valve...wait that would make it stay running. Also...I've developed a wicked fuel leak (leaks a puddle the size of a trash can lid in 10 minutes) around the primer pump, but the odd thing is that some of the fuel is pooling in the recess on the top of the handle of the primer pump and it doesn't appear like it's leaking from above. Time to get fuely. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 159K '87 Acura Legend 177K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking
My 78 240D primer pump used a 3/4 or 7/8 wrench to RR - that's one of my few SAE wrenches but it comes in handy very often - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking I've got a replacement primer pump I'm going to install but it seems having a 22mm or 23mm crows foot kind of deal is almost essential. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking I'd spend the $15 to get a new primer pump and then see how things act... (: Levi On 9/27/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each time I have to brake agressively, the engine almost stalls. The idle drops way below what it normally is and it doesn't recover unless I give it a bit of fuel with the foot feed. Today it happened again after some clown cut me off at a light, so I put it in neutral before it stalled and placing it in neutral had no effect. Ideas? Is this a known precursor to something. Is my brake booster stealing vacuum from the shutoff valve...wait that would make it stay running. Also...I've developed a wicked fuel leak (leaks a puddle the size of a trash can lid in 10 minutes) around the primer pump, but the odd thing is that some of the fuel is pooling in the recess on the top of the handle of the primer pump and it doesn't appear like it's leaking from above. Time to get fuely. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 159K '87 Acura Legend 177K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/456 - Release Date: 9/25/2006
Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking
3/4~=19mm 7/8~=22mm Actually to be correct 3/4=19.05mm 7/8=22.225mm However this is well with-in tolerance of most wrenches. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking My 78 240D primer pump used a 3/4 or 7/8 wrench to RR - that's one of my few SAE wrenches but it comes in handy very often - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking I've got a replacement primer pump I'm going to install but it seems having a 22mm or 23mm crows foot kind of deal is almost essential. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking I'd spend the $15 to get a new primer pump and then see how things act... (: Levi On 9/27/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each time I have to brake agressively, the engine almost stalls. The idle drops way below what it normally is and it doesn't recover unless I give it a bit of fuel with the foot feed. Today it happened again after some clown cut me off at a light, so I put it in neutral before it stalled and placing it in neutral had no effect. Ideas? Is this a known precursor to something. Is my brake booster stealing vacuum from the shutoff valve...wait that would make it stay running. Also...I've developed a wicked fuel leak (leaks a puddle the size of a trash can lid in 10 minutes) around the primer pump, but the odd thing is that some of the fuel is pooling in the recess on the top of the handle of the primer pump and it doesn't appear like it's leaking from above. Time to get fuely. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 159K '87 Acura Legend 177K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/456 - Release Date: 9/25/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking
Replace the primer pump, its leaking and allowing air in. Eventually it won't start. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking
Primer pump is now replaced. I finally was able to get a 15/16 wrench in there just right (I think initially I wasn't holding my mouth right) and break the old one free. Put the new one on and leak is gone. Now I need to wait until some numbskull causes me to stop on the proverbial dime and we'll see if the low idle problem has been corrected. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 159K '87 Acura Legend 177K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking Replace the primer pump, its leaking and allowing air in. Eventually it won't start. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
