[MBZ] Another Transmission Problem
I have a problem with my 85 300SD transmission that I would like to explore. The transmission and torque converter were replaced in Oct 2003. It has logged 30k miles. I bought it from Rusty. It is filled with Mobil1Synthetic fluid . It has been performing flawlessly until recently. In the past few weeks, I noticed the forward shifts, all of them, where harsher than in the past. I attributed this to vacuum and made a note to go over the vac system soon. However, yesterday I parked the car and made a quick dash into a store. I returned to the car, fired it up, put it in drive, but the transmission did not engage. Not forward or reverse. Revving up the engine makes no difference.Fluid level fine, nice and pink. Other than the harsher shifts, there were no other symptoms, sounds, on-the-road problems, or fluid leaks. It simply stopped working. Does this sound like a valve body seal problem? Maybe a bad torque converter? Modulator? Regards, Bill Phelps Annapolis, MD 85 300SD Beeker 85 300SD Parts
[MBZ] Another Transmission Problem
I have a problem with my 85 300SD transmission that I would like to explore. The transmission and torque converter were replaced in Oct 2003. It has logged 30k miles. I bought it from Rusty. It is filled with Mobil1Synthetic fluid . It has been performing flawlessly until recently. In the past few weeks, I noticed the forward shifts, all of them, where harsher than in the past. I attributed this to vacuum and made a note to go over the vac system soon. However, yesterday I parked the car and made a quick dash into a store. I returned to the car, fired it up, put it in drive, but the transmission did not engage. Not forward or reverse. Revving up the engine makes no difference.Fluid level fine, nice and pink. Other than the harsher shifts, there were no other symptoms, sounds, on-the-road problems, or fluid leaks. It simply stopped working. Does this sound like a valve body seal problem? Maybe a bad torque converter? Modulator? Regards, Bill Phelps Annapolis, MD 85 300SD Beeker 85 300SD Parts
Re: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem
Sounds like you had a 3 year/30k warranty. On 10/16/06, Bill Phelps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a problem with my 85 300SD transmission that I would like to explore. The transmission and torque converter were replaced in Oct 2003. It has logged 30k miles. I bought it from Rusty. It is filled with Mobil1Synthetic fluid . It has been performing flawlessly until recently. In the past few weeks, I noticed the forward shifts, all of them, where harsher than in the past. I attributed this to vacuum and made a note to go over the vac system soon. However, yesterday I parked the car and made a quick dash into a store. I returned to the car, fired it up, put it in drive, but the transmission did not engage. Not forward or reverse. Revving up the engine makes no difference.Fluid level fine, nice and pink. Other than the harsher shifts, there were no other symptoms, sounds, on-the-road problems, or fluid leaks. It simply stopped working. Does this sound like a valve body seal problem? Maybe a bad torque converter? Modulator? Regards, Bill Phelps Annapolis, MD 85 300SD Beeker 85 300SD Parts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem
Have you - or did you - change the ATF during those 30k miles? We see it in engines often - even brand new engines from Mercedes, Ferrari & Porsche - have high levels of contaminants from the assembly and production of the engines. I always suggest people with new cars change their oil between 3000 and 5000 regardless of what the Owners Manual or dealer says. We've tested the oil and it always has high levels until that first test - but afterward the levels return to normal. I have no idea who does Rusty's tranny rebuilds but I doubt their assembly rooms are cleaner than the MB assembly rooms - and all it takes is a little junk to get into the valve body and cause odd behaviour. Of course, it may be something else entirely. From the systems I would think one or more valves has stuck - as you suggest. In any case, changing the ATF at this point would be the least expensive thing possible to try. YMMV - Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: "BIll Phelps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:33 PM Subject: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem I have a problem with my 85 300SD transmission that I would like to explore. The transmission and torque converter were replaced in Oct 2003. It has logged 30k miles. I bought it from Rusty. It is filled with Mobil1Synthetic fluid . It has been performing flawlessly until recently. In the past few weeks, I noticed the forward shifts, all of them, where harsher than in the past. I attributed this to vacuum and made a note to go over the vac system soon. However, yesterday I parked the car and made a quick dash into a store. I returned to the car, fired it up, put it in drive, but the transmission did not engage. Not forward or reverse. Revving up the engine makes no difference.Fluid level fine, nice and pink. Other than the harsher shifts, there were no other symptoms, sounds, on-the-road problems, or fluid leaks. It simply stopped working. Does this sound like a valve body seal problem? Maybe a bad torque converter? Modulator? Regards, Bill Phelps Annapolis, MD 85 300SD Beeker 85 300SD Parts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/482 - Release Date: 10/18/2006
Re: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem
Could it be you have a selector problem? Or perhaps you have a problem with the valve body, like a sticky valve that is now stuck open? I am guessing here but would advise to get under the car and make sure the selector is selecting. Other than that it is expert time. Perhaps drain the fluid and drop the pan to see if there is anything untoward in there. - Original Message - From: "BIll Phelps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:03 AM Subject: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem I have a problem with my 85 300SD transmission that I would like to explore. The transmission and torque converter were replaced in Oct 2003. It has logged 30k miles. I bought it from Rusty. It is filled with Mobil1Synthetic fluid . It has been performing flawlessly until recently. In the past few weeks, I noticed the forward shifts, all of them, where harsher than in the past. I attributed this to vacuum and made a note to go over the vac system soon. However, yesterday I parked the car and made a quick dash into a store. I returned to the car, fired it up, put it in drive, but the transmission did not engage. Not forward or reverse. Revving up the engine makes no difference.Fluid level fine, nice and pink. Other than the harsher shifts, there were no other symptoms, sounds, on-the-road problems, or fluid leaks. It simply stopped working. Does this sound like a valve body seal problem? Maybe a bad torque converter? Modulator? Regards, Bill Phelps Annapolis, MD 85 300SD Beeker 85 300SD Parts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/480 - Release Date: 17/10/2006
Re: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem
Hope it's still under warranty, because I had similar symptoms in my 1983 300TD and the transmission was toast. On 10/18/06, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Could it be you have a selector problem? Or perhaps you have a problem with the valve body, like a sticky valve that is now stuck open? I am guessing here but would advise to get under the car and make sure the selector is selecting. Other than that it is expert time. Perhaps drain the fluid and drop the pan to see if there is anything untoward in there. - Original Message - From: "BIll Phelps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:03 AM Subject: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem >I have a problem with my 85 300SD transmission that I would like to >explore. > The transmission and torque converter were replaced in Oct 2003. It has > logged > 30k miles. I bought it from Rusty. It is filled with Mobil1Synthetic fluid > . > > It has been performing flawlessly until recently. > > In the past few weeks, I noticed the forward shifts, all of them, where > harsher than > in the past. I attributed this to vacuum and made a note to go over the > vac > system soon. However, yesterday I parked the car and made a quick dash > into > a store. I > returned to the car, fired it up, put it in drive, but the transmission > did > not engage. Not > forward or reverse. Revving up the engine makes no difference.Fluidlevel > fine, nice and pink. > > Other than the harsher shifts, there were no other symptoms, sounds, > on-the-road problems, or fluid leaks. It simply stopped working. > > Does this sound like a valve body seal problem? Maybe a bad torque > converter? Modulator? > > Regards, > > Bill Phelps > Annapolis, MD > > 85 300SD Beeker > 85 300SD Parts > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/480 - Release Date: 17/10/2006 > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem
Same thing happened to my W126, the valve body had something stuck. Took out cleaned and everything was OK. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem Could it be you have a selector problem? Or perhaps you have a problem with the valve body, like a sticky valve that is now stuck open? I am guessing here but would advise to get under the car and make sure the selector is selecting. Other than that it is expert time. Perhaps drain the fluid and drop the pan to see if there is anything untoward in there. - Original Message - From: "BIll Phelps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:03 AM Subject: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem >I have a problem with my 85 300SD transmission that I would like to >explore. > The transmission and torque converter were replaced in Oct 2003. It has > logged > 30k miles. I bought it from Rusty. It is filled with Mobil1Synthetic fluid > . > > It has been performing flawlessly until recently. > > In the past few weeks, I noticed the forward shifts, all of them, where > harsher than > in the past. I attributed this to vacuum and made a note to go over the > vac > system soon. However, yesterday I parked the car and made a quick dash > into > a store. I > returned to the car, fired it up, put it in drive, but the transmission > did > not engage. Not > forward or reverse. Revving up the engine makes no difference.Fluid level > fine, nice and pink. > > Other than the harsher shifts, there were no other symptoms, sounds, > on-the-road problems, or fluid leaks. It simply stopped working. > > Does this sound like a valve body seal problem? Maybe a bad torque > converter? Modulator? > > Regards, > > Bill Phelps > Annapolis, MD > > 85 300SD Beeker > 85 300SD Parts > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/480 - Release Date: 17/10/2006 > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem
Thanks to all who answer my original request. Taking your advice, I checked the selector. All OK there. Dropped the tranny pan last Saturday. There were no debris present. The fluid was clear though slightly dark with a mid burnt smell.The filter appeared to almost completely blocked so I figured I had the problem in hand. I inspected the visible parts and all seemed in order. Fluid from the torque was also devoid of any debris. After cleaning the pan and buttoning the tranny up, I installed new Mobil1 atf. Fired up the car and.. no change. Still no forward or reverse at any rpm. Are there any further thoughts? Regards, Bill Phelps Annapolis, MD 85 300SD Beeker 85 300SD Parts Original Message Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:03 AM Subject: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem I have a problem with my 85 300SD transmission that I would like to explore. The transmission and torque converter were replaced in Oct 2003. It has logged 30k miles. I bought it from Rusty. It is filled with Mobil1Synthetic fluid. It has been performing flawlessly until recently. In the past few weeks, I noticed the forward shifts, all of them, where harsher than in the past. I attributed this to vacuum and made a note to go over the vac system soon. However, yesterday I parked the car and made a quick dash into a store. I returned to the car, fired it up, put it in drive, but the transmission did not engage. Not forward or reverse. Revving up the engine makes no difference. Fluid level fine, nice and pink. Other than the harsher shifts, there were no other symptoms, sounds, on-the-road problems, or fluid leaks. It simply stopped working. Does this sound like a valve body seal problem? Maybe a bad torque converter? Modulator? Regards, Bill Phelps
Re: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem
Sounds like you may have crap in the valve body, about the only thing possibly to try before disassembly is a tranny flush. Hendrik now pretending to be an expert in automatic transmissions - Original Message - From: "BIll Phelps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem Thanks to all who answer my original request. Taking your advice, I checked the selector. All OK there. Dropped the tranny pan last Saturday. There were no debris present. The fluid was clear though slightly dark with a mid burnt smell.The filter appeared to almost completely blocked so I figured I had the problem in hand. I inspected the visible parts and all seemed in order. Fluid from the torque was also devoid of any debris. After cleaning the pan and buttoning the tranny up, I installed new Mobil1 atf. Fired up the car and.. no change. Still no forward or reverse at any rpm. Are there any further thoughts? Regards, Bill Phelps Annapolis, MD 85 300SD Beeker 85 300SD Parts Original Message Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:03 AM Subject: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem I have a problem with my 85 300SD transmission that I would like to explore. The transmission and torque converter were replaced in Oct 2003. It has logged 30k miles. I bought it from Rusty. It is filled with Mobil1Synthetic fluid. It has been performing flawlessly until recently. In the past few weeks, I noticed the forward shifts, all of them, where harsher than in the past. I attributed this to vacuum and made a note to go over the vac system soon. However, yesterday I parked the car and made a quick dash into a store. I returned to the car, fired it up, put it in drive, but the transmission did not engage. Not forward or reverse. Revving up the engine makes no difference. Fluid level fine, nice and pink. Other than the harsher shifts, there were no other symptoms, sounds, on-the-road problems, or fluid leaks. It simply stopped working. Does this sound like a valve body seal problem? Maybe a bad torque converter? Modulator? Regards, Bill Phelps ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/496 - Release Date: 24/10/2006
Re: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem
oh no, not another transmission thread. BIll Phelps wrote: Thanks to all who answer my original request. Taking your advice, I checked the selector. All OK there. Dropped the tranny pan last Saturday. There were no debris present. The fluid was clear though slightly dark with a mid burnt smell.The filter appeared to almost completely blocked so I figured I had the problem in hand. I inspected the visible parts and all seemed in order. Fluid from the torque was also devoid of any debris. After cleaning the pan and buttoning the tranny up, I installed new Mobil1 atf. Fired up the car and.. no change. Still no forward or reverse at any rpm. Are there any further thoughts? Regards, Bill Phelps Annapolis, MD 85 300SD Beeker 85 300SD Parts Original Message Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:03 AM Subject: [MBZ] Another Transmission Problem I have a problem with my 85 300SD transmission that I would like to explore. The transmission and torque converter were replaced in Oct 2003. It has logged 30k miles. I bought it from Rusty. It is filled with Mobil1Synthetic fluid. It has been performing flawlessly until recently. In the past few weeks, I noticed the forward shifts, all of them, where harsher than in the past. I attributed this to vacuum and made a note to go over the vac system soon. However, yesterday I parked the car and made a quick dash into a store. I returned to the car, fired it up, put it in drive, but the transmission did not engage. Not forward or reverse. Revving up the engine makes no difference. Fluid level fine, nice and pink. Other than the harsher shifts, there were no other symptoms, sounds, on-the-road problems, or fluid leaks. It simply stopped working. Does this sound like a valve body seal problem? Maybe a bad torque converter? Modulator? Regards, Bill Phelps ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
