Re: [MBZ] Another piece of good news

2012-12-26 Thread Fmiser
 Curt Raymond wrote:

 Again as with yesterday the car fired right up, its maybe 25F,
 and idled fine with merely a small worrying tick somewhere in
 the valve train.  **snip**
 The worrying tick goes away at low speeds
 but comes back above about 2500rpm but other than that the car
 seems to have proper power and if anything the throttle
 responds a little better than it did before. Is it possible
 that massively overheating didn't hurt much of anything?

Yup.  Those iron block, iron head engines are tough.  Watch for
water in the oil, oil in the water, white foam in the oil
breather.  But you might be fine.

 So my plan tomorrow is to go buy two more gallons of Mobil 1
 15w50 (which is what I was running anyway) and change the oil.
 If the worrying tick remains I'll add Lucas oil additive
 (which is just viscosity improver) until the noise goes away. 

 Years ago my cousin let his sister drive his Ford LTD (the
 horrible little one) while he was away at college, she never
 added oil and the engine ticked like crazy. He changed the oil
 and put in 2 quarts of STP until it quit making noise and
 drove it for years like that...

Err, not applicable.  The Ford would have had hydraulic
lifters.  The OM616 does not.  Valve ticking on an engine with
hydraulic lifters can indicate the self-adjusting mechanism
isn't doing it's job and thicker oil can help that problem.
With solid lifters like your 240 has, it can't do the same
thing.  Like Mitch said, maybe it's time to check valve lash.
Yeah, I know - fun job in the snow.  It's supposed to be done
with a cold, cold engine - but if it were me, I'd probably run
the block heater to warm the engine and help alleviate cold
fingers.  Just set the lash a bit tighter.

--   Philip

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[MBZ] Another piece of good news

2012-12-25 Thread Curt Raymond
To facilitate the alternator removal I'd parked the 240D next to the garage up 
on some 4x4s but we've got 6-12 of snow in the forecast so I figured I ought 
to make sure its mobile enough to at least move for snow removal.

I ran it some yesterday both to make sure the alternator still worked after 
re-installation and as it was nose up to hopefully make sure the cooling system 
was completely bled.

Again as with yesterday the car fired right up, its maybe 25F, and idled fine 
with merely a small worrying tick somewhere in the valve train. I backed it off 
the blocks (I'd made a ramp with some 2x6s and firewood for supports) and 
removed all the blocking. Since the engine didn't seem warmed up I took it 
around the block. The worrying tick goes away at low speeds but comes back 
above about 2500rpm but other than that the car seems to have proper power and 
if anything the throttle responds a little better than it did before. Is it 
possible that massively overheating didn't hurt much of anything?

So my plan tomorrow is to go buy two more gallons of Mobil 1 15w50 (which is 
what I was running anyway) and change the oil. If the worrying tick remains 
I'll add Lucas oil additive (which is just viscosity improver) until the noise 
goes away. 

Years ago my cousin let his sister drive his Ford LTD (the horrible little one) 
while he was away at college, she never added oil and the engine ticked like 
crazy. He changed the oil and put in 2 quarts of STP until it quit making noise 
and drove it for years like that...

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Another piece of good news

2012-12-25 Thread Brian Toscano
Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't.

Though I suppose ticking is better than knocking.

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 To facilitate the alternator removal I'd parked the 240D next to the
 garage up on some 4x4s but we've got 6-12 of snow in the forecast so I
 figured I ought to make sure its mobile enough to at least move for snow
 removal.

 I ran it some yesterday both to make sure the alternator still worked
 after re-installation and as it was nose up to hopefully make sure the
 cooling system was completely bled.

 Again as with yesterday the car fired right up, its maybe 25F, and idled
 fine with merely a small worrying tick somewhere in the valve train. I
 backed it off the blocks (I'd made a ramp with some 2x6s and firewood for
 supports) and removed all the blocking. Since the engine didn't seem warmed
 up I took it around the block. The worrying tick goes away at low speeds
 but comes back above about 2500rpm but other than that the car seems to
 have proper power and if anything the throttle responds a little better
 than it did before. Is it possible that massively overheating didn't hurt
 much of anything?

 So my plan tomorrow is to go buy two more gallons of Mobil 1 15w50 (which
 is what I was running anyway) and change the oil. If the worrying tick
 remains I'll add Lucas oil additive (which is just viscosity improver)
 until the noise goes away.

 Years ago my cousin let his sister drive his Ford LTD (the horrible little
 one) while he was away at college, she never added oil and the engine
 ticked like crazy. He changed the oil and put in 2 quarts of STP until it
 quit making noise and drove it for years like that...

 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Another piece of good news

2012-12-25 Thread Mitch Haley

Curt Raymond wrote:

So my plan tomorrow is to go buy two more gallons of Mobil 1 15w50 (which is what I was running anyway) and change the oil. If the worrying tick remains I'll add Lucas oil additive (which is just viscosity improver) until the noise goes away. 


You might also get out your valve wrenches and feeler gauges. Maybe your valve 
tick has a more obvious explanation.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Another piece of good news

2012-12-25 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 25, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The worrying tick goes away at low speeds but comes back above about 2500rpm 
 but other than that the car seems to have proper power and if anything the 
 throttle responds a little better than it did before. Is it possible that 
 massively overheating didn't hurt much of anything?


Perhaps it facilitated the burning off of carbon deposits? 

Rick
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