Re: [MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?

[Jim Cathey]

An aimable breather cap?  Breather caps worked in conjunction
with a road draft tube, to keep the nasty eye-watering oily
burny smells away from the cabin air intakes.  Between the two
they ventilated the crankcase.  I suppose the hose thing was
for tired engines that really pumped out the blowby, aim it
at the air intake or something...

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?

[Rick Knoble]

One more try.







Rick
  
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?

[Rick Knoble]

I bracketed the links so maybe they work now, without copy and paste.
Rick

> From: rickkno...@hotmail.com
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:39:46 -0800
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?
> 
> 
> Nothing here Olds specific, but probably something that will adapt.
> <http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Vintage-Car-Truck-Parts-/10073/i.html?_nkw=(crankcase,+road,+draft,+breather)+tube&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A4390&rt=nc&_catref=1&_dmpt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&_ipg=200&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245.l1514>
> <http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Car-Truck-Parts-/6030/i.html?_nkw=(crankcase,+road,+draft,+breather)+tube&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A4390&rt=nc&_catref=1&_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&_ipg=200&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245.l1514>
> Maybe this will work...
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Speed-9169-Chrome-Valve-Cover-Breather-Tube-/140478206007?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20b5275037#ht_4384wt_888>
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?

[Rick Knoble]

Nothing here Olds specific, but probably something that will adapt.
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Vintage-Car-Truck-Parts-/10073/i.html?_nkw=(crankcase,+road,+draft,+breather)+tube&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A4390&rt=nc&_catref=1&_dmpt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&_ipg=200&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245.l1514
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Car-Truck-Parts-/6030/i.html?_nkw=(crankcase,+road,+draft,+breather)+tube&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A4390&rt=nc&_catref=1&_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&_ipg=200&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245.l1514
Maybe this will work...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Speed-9169-Chrome-Valve-Cover-Breather-Tube-/140478206007?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20b5275037#ht_4384wt_888
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?

[Gerry Archer]

I had part interest in a Model T in the late 1940s.  3 or 4 of us went in 
together and bought it for $25.  The cloth top was long gone and the seats 
were bad, but it would do an honest 25 mph wide open.  The engine was worn 
and pumped a lot of vapor out that came up in the front seat area if the 
windshield was opened out.
We made a breather tube out of plumbing fittings and hooked a piece of 3/4" 
garden hose on it and ran it back under the body so it wouldn't come up in 
the seat area.
IIRC a short 3/4" pipe nipple dropped down in the breather tube and it had 
an elbow with a 1/2" reducer and a close 1/2" nipple that connected to the 
garden hose.  When we added oil, which was often, we just pulled the short 
nipple out of the breather tube, added the oil, and then put it back.  You 
might be able to rig something like that; maybe use copper fittings; unless 
you want it to look like it belongs there.

Good luck,
Gerry
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Okay, for clarification of the item I am looking for. Here is one for sale 
on Ebay. Anyone seen this type of object in an auto parts store? Or 
wrecking yard/  Or basement? Not even sure this would fit my oil filler 
tube.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380288705641&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:MOTORS:1123

Of course, I don't want to pay $50 for it. They sold at Pep Boys and 
similar stores in the fifties and sixties for a couple of dollars. I want 
it to divert blowby gases and oil coming out of the oil filler tube on an 
old Olds. This is all before smog controls. And, by the way, what is the 
name for that flexible metal tubing that seems to be an endless spiral?

JC Whitney does not have this item.
Jerry
82 240D



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[MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?

[Jerry Herrman]

Okay, for clarification of the item I am looking for. Here is one for sale on 
Ebay. Anyone seen this type of object in an auto parts store? Or wrecking yard/ 
 Or basement? Not even sure this would fit my oil filler tube.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380288705641&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:MOTORS:1123

Of course, I don't want to pay $50 for it. They sold at Pep Boys and similar 
stores in the fifties and sixties for a couple of dollars. I want it to divert 
blowby gases and oil coming out of the oil filler tube on an old Olds. This is 
all before smog controls. And, by the way, what is the name for that flexible 
metal tubing that seems to be an endless spiral?

JC Whitney does not have this item.

Jerry
82 240D


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?

[WILTON]

Same thing.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "John Reames" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?


The 82 Ltd (the small one) with a 3800 that I worked on had it go into the 
side of the air cleaner into a extra little filter (I think they actually 
called it a PCV filter)


I suspect that the net effect is not dissimilar to the breather tube in 
our benzes going into the air intake...


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On Nov 18, 2010, at 17:27, R A Bennell  wrote:

I think you are correct. I rebuilt a 302 in a 1980 Ltd a number of years 
back and I think it had what he is referring to. I had not really thought 
of that. I thought he was referring to some aftermarket item.  I guess 
maybe he is - an effort to avoid the original setup by having it act like 
a road draft tube if the engine is worn out and you don't want the engine 
sucking in the guck from the valve cover???


I don't think the tube normally went down to the side of the engine as 
suggested. I think it was connected to the intake manifold in such a 
manner that the engine pulled in and burned whatever fumes were coming 
out of the valve cover. So, yes, sort of like the pvc setup.
My old Chevy pickup with an inline 6 also had a similar arrangement. 
There was a grommet in the side of the valve cover and a pipe that went 
into the grommet and then a hose that connected it to the side of the air 
cleaner housing. If the blowby was oily it would foul the air cleaner 
element.


Randy

On 18/11/2010 2:44 PM, Mike Gildea wrote:
Sounds like maybe a crankcase ventillation system.  Some had oil filler 
caps with hoses that connected to the carbs air filter housing.  The 
other end of the system went to a PCV .  This would be a negative 
pressure type system back in the 60`s or late 50`s on American iron.. 
Hot Rod shops probably have something for that.

Mike G

Jerry Herrman wrote:
I'm looking for an item that was commonly available for older American 
cars. If fits atop the oil filler tube (see attached picture) and 
directs blowby fumes coming out of the filler tube to someplace below 
the top of the engine. It has a flexible tube attached so you can bend 
it and direct it in any direction. Its similar to a road draft tube, 
something likely familiar to you old timers. I'd like to get one. I'd 
also like to know the name of this item and the name given to this 
type of flexible tube.


Jerry
'82 240D



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Re: [MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?

[John Reames]

The 82 Ltd (the small one) with a 3800 that I worked on had it go into the side 
of the air cleaner into a extra little filter (I think they actually called it 
a PCV filter)

I suspect that the net effect is not dissimilar to the breather tube in our 
benzes going into the air intake...

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On Nov 18, 2010, at 17:27, R A Bennell  wrote:

> I think you are correct. I rebuilt a 302 in a 1980 Ltd a number of years back 
> and I think it had what he is referring to. I had not really thought of that. 
> I thought he was referring to some aftermarket item.  I guess maybe he is - 
> an effort to avoid the original setup by having it act like a road draft tube 
> if the engine is worn out and you don't want the engine sucking in the guck 
> from the valve cover???
> 
> I don't think the tube normally went down to the side of the engine as 
> suggested. I think it was connected to the intake manifold in such a manner 
> that the engine pulled in and burned whatever fumes were coming out of the 
> valve cover. So, yes, sort of like the pvc setup.
> My old Chevy pickup with an inline 6 also had a similar arrangement. There 
> was a grommet in the side of the valve cover and a pipe that went into the 
> grommet and then a hose that connected it to the side of the air cleaner 
> housing. If the blowby was oily it would foul the air cleaner element.
> 
> Randy
> 
> On 18/11/2010 2:44 PM, Mike Gildea wrote:
>> Sounds like maybe a crankcase ventillation system.  Some had oil filler caps 
>> with hoses that connected to the carbs air filter housing.  The other end of 
>> the system went to a PCV .  This would be a negative pressure type system 
>> back in the 60`s or late 50`s on American iron.. Hot Rod shops probably have 
>> something for that.
>> Mike G
>> 
>> Jerry Herrman wrote:
 I'm looking for an item that was commonly available for older American 
 cars. If fits atop the oil filler tube (see attached picture) and directs 
 blowby fumes coming out of the filler tube to someplace below  the top of 
 the engine. It has a flexible tube attached so you can bend it and direct 
 it in any direction. Its similar to a road draft tube, something likely 
 familiar to you old timers. I'd like to get one. I'd also like to know the 
 name of this item and the name given to this type of flexible tube.
 
 Jerry
 '82 240D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?

[R A Bennell]

I think you are correct. I rebuilt a 302 in a 1980 Ltd a number of years 
back and I think it had what he is referring to. I had not really 
thought of that. I thought he was referring to some aftermarket item.  I 
guess maybe he is - an effort to avoid the original setup by having it 
act like a road draft tube if the engine is worn out and you don't want 
the engine sucking in the guck from the valve cover???


I don't think the tube normally went down to the side of the engine as 
suggested. I think it was connected to the intake manifold in such a 
manner that the engine pulled in and burned whatever fumes were coming 
out of the valve cover. So, yes, sort of like the pvc setup.
My old Chevy pickup with an inline 6 also had a similar arrangement. 
There was a grommet in the side of the valve cover and a pipe that went 
into the grommet and then a hose that connected it to the side of the 
air cleaner housing. If the blowby was oily it would foul the air 
cleaner element.


Randy

On 18/11/2010 2:44 PM, Mike Gildea wrote:
Sounds like maybe a crankcase ventillation system.  Some had oil 
filler caps with hoses that connected to the carbs air filter 
housing.  The other end of the system went to a PCV .  This would be a 
negative pressure type system back in the 60`s or late 50`s on 
American iron.. Hot Rod shops probably have something for that.

Mike G

Jerry Herrman wrote:
I'm looking for an item that was commonly available for older 
American cars. If fits atop the oil filler tube (see attached 
picture) and directs blowby fumes coming out of the filler tube to 
someplace below  the top of the engine. It has a flexible tube 
attached so you can bend it and direct it in any direction. Its 
similar to a road draft tube, something likely familiar to you old 
timers. I'd like to get one. I'd also like to know the name of this 
item and the name given to this type of flexible tube.


Jerry
'82 240D



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Re: [MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?

[John Reames]

Frod had them up through at least 82 or 83 on the 3800 V6 and 5.0 V8

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On Nov 18, 2010, at 15:44, "Mike Gildea"  wrote:

> Sounds like maybe a crankcase ventillation system.  Some had oil filler caps 
> with hoses that connected to the carbs air filter housing.  The other end of 
> the system went to a PCV .  This would be a negative pressure type system 
> back in the 60`s or late 50`s on American iron.. Hot Rod shops probably have 
> something for that.
> Mike G
> 
> Jerry Herrman wrote:
>>> I'm looking for an item that was commonly available for older American 
>>> cars. If fits atop the oil filler tube (see attached picture) and directs 
>>> blowby fumes coming out of the filler tube to someplace below  the top of 
>>> the engine. It has a flexible tube attached so you can bend it and direct 
>>> it in any direction. Its similar to a road draft tube, something likely 
>>> familiar to you old timers. I'd like to get one. I'd also like to know the 
>>> name of this item and the name given to this type of flexible tube.
>>> 
>>> Jerry
>>> '82 240D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?

[Mike Gildea]

Sounds like maybe a crankcase ventillation system.  Some had oil filler caps 
with hoses that connected to the carbs air filter housing.  The other end of 
the system went to a PCV .  This would be a negative pressure type system 
back in the 60`s or late 50`s on American iron.. Hot Rod shops probably have 
something for that.

Mike G

Jerry Herrman wrote:
I'm looking for an item that was commonly available for older American 
cars. If fits atop the oil filler tube (see attached picture) and directs 
blowby fumes coming out of the filler tube to someplace below  the top of 
the engine. It has a flexible tube attached so you can bend it and direct 
it in any direction. Its similar to a road draft tube, something likely 
familiar to you old timers. I'd like to get one. I'd also like to know 
the name of this item and the name given to this type of flexible tube.


Jerry
'82 240D



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Re: [MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?

[R A Bennell]

I honestly cannot say I have ever heard of or seen what you describe but 
about the only place I can think of that might have such a thing is JC 
Whitney.

Another alternative might be to search something like the Hemmings books.

Randy

On 18/11/2010 1:03 PM, Jerry Herrman wrote:

I'm looking for an item that was commonly available for older American cars. If 
fits atop the oil filler tube (see attached picture) and directs blowby fumes 
coming out of the filler tube to someplace below  the top of the engine. It has 
a flexible tube attached so you can bend it and direct it in any direction. Its 
similar to a road draft tube, something likely familiar to you old timers. I'd 
like to get one. I'd also like to know the name of this item and the name given 
to this type of flexible tube.

Jerry
'82 240D
Not old enough to have a road draft tube.


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?

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Didn't see an attachment on my copy

On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:03 -0800, "Jerry Herrman"  wrote:
> I'm looking for an item that was commonly available for older American
> cars. If fits atop the oil filler tube (see attached picture) and directs
> blowby fumes coming out of the filler tube to someplace below  the top of
> the engine. It has a flexible tube attached so you can bend it and direct
> it in any direction. Its similar to a road draft tube, something likely
> familiar to you old timers. I'd like to get one. I'd also like to know
> the name of this item and the name given to this type of flexible tube.
> 
> Jerry
> '82 240D
> Not old enough to have a road draft tube.
> 
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[MBZ] Anyone know where to find one of these?

[Jerry Herrman]

I'm looking for an item that was commonly available for older American cars. If 
fits atop the oil filler tube (see attached picture) and directs blowby fumes 
coming out of the filler tube to someplace below  the top of the engine. It has 
a flexible tube attached so you can bend it and direct it in any direction. Its 
similar to a road draft tube, something likely familiar to you old timers. I'd 
like to get one. I'd also like to know the name of this item and the name given 
to this type of flexible tube.

Jerry
'82 240D
Not old enough to have a road draft tube.


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