Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Batteries can go bad early, have you charged it and then disconnected it? Hendrik who has too many batteries On 04/04/14 00:52, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So when I got home yesterday afternoon the car would not start. Turned a little, but died. I am leaning toward the battery won't hold a charge explanation. The battery was only slightly drained, jsut enough to prevent starting. Tonight I will the glove box door, which I doubt is the problem. If it isn't, and there are no other obvious answers, the low hanging fruit picking approach has me remove the battery and take it to Sears. They can test it and if it's unable to take a charge I will simply trade it in for one of their totally awesome 850 CCA Diehards. I will from that point live happily ever after. Once the battery problem has been solved and I can drive the '85 300TD again, I will start a new thread about whining (it's not what you think). Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Yes, and the car starts like a lighjt switch with the new battery. In hindsight, the battery was already on its last legs before our brutally cold winter took it out entirely. On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Batteries can go bad early, have you charged it and then disconnected it? Hendrik who has too many batteries On 04/04/14 00:52, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So when I got home yesterday afternoon the car would not start. Turned a little, but died. I am leaning toward the battery won't hold a charge explanation. The battery was only slightly drained, jsut enough to prevent starting. Tonight I will the glove box door, which I doubt is the problem. If it isn't, and there are no other obvious answers, the low hanging fruit picking approach has me remove the battery and take it to Sears. They can test it and if it's unable to take a charge I will simply trade it in for one of their totally awesome 850 CCA Diehards. I will from that point live happily ever after. Once the battery problem has been solved and I can drive the '85 300TD again, I will start a new thread about whining (it's not what you think). Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
On 07/04/2014 10:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Yes, and the car starts like a lighjt switch with the new battery. In hindsight, the battery was already on its last legs before our brutally cold winter took it out entirely. Or, as I suggested earlier, the battery went dead and then froze. A charged battery will not freeze. An uncharged one will and that normally kills them. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
But it DID take a charge, and held it for a day. Those Diehards are tough to kill. On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 07/04/2014 10:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Yes, and the car starts like a lighjt switch with the new battery. In hindsight, the battery was already on its last legs before our brutally cold winter took it out entirely. Or, as I suggested earlier, the battery went dead and then froze. A charged battery will not freeze. An uncharged one will and that normally kills them. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Yeah, with my electric scooter. Wilt - Original Message - From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD I was going to suggest that you stick your head in the trunk/boot but then it's probably full off amps and subwoofers. Hendrik who dose not have a fancy sound system On 03/04/14 14:45, WILTON wrote: Yeah, I know it's hard to believe that such a hip guy has never listened to that crap music. BTW, I never sat in the car overnight listening for the little electric motor, either. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
So when I got home yesterday afternoon the car would not start. Turned a little, but died. I am leaning toward the battery won't hold a charge explanation. The battery was only slightly drained, jsut enough to prevent starting. Tonight I will the glove box door, which I doubt is the problem. If it isn't, and there are no other obvious answers, the low hanging fruit picking approach has me remove the battery and take it to Sears. They can test it and if it's unable to take a charge I will simply trade it in for one of their totally awesome 850 CCA Diehards. I will from that point live happily ever after. Once the battery problem has been solved and I can drive the '85 300TD again, I will start a new thread about whining (it's not what you think). Andrew Who looks forward to warm days so he can fiddle with his garage and two station wagons. Go Nats! On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:43 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yeah, with my electric scooter. Wilt - Original Message - From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD I was going to suggest that you stick your head in the trunk/boot but then it's probably full off amps and subwoofers. Hendrik who dose not have a fancy sound system On 03/04/14 14:45, WILTON wrote: Yeah, I know it's hard to believe that such a hip guy has never listened to that crap music. BTW, I never sat in the car overnight listening for the little electric motor, either. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Well you should probably try to drive there so they can check the alternator too. --R On 4/3/14 10:22 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So when I got home yesterday afternoon the car would not start. Turned a little, but died. I am leaning toward the battery won't hold a charge explanation. The battery was only slightly drained, jsut enough to prevent starting. Tonight I will the glove box door, which I doubt is the problem. If it isn't, and there are no other obvious answers, the low hanging fruit picking approach has me remove the battery and take it to Sears. They can test it and if it's unable to take a charge I will simply trade it in for one of their totally awesome 850 CCA Diehards. I will from that point live happily ever after. Once the battery problem has been solved and I can drive the '85 300TD again, I will start a new thread about whining (it's not what you think). Andrew Who looks forward to warm days so he can fiddle with his garage and two station wagons. Go Nats! On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:43 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yeah, with my electric scooter. Wilt - Original Message - From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD I was going to suggest that you stick your head in the trunk/boot but then it's probably full off amps and subwoofers. Hendrik who dose not have a fancy sound system On 03/04/14 14:45, WILTON wrote: Yeah, I know it's hard to believe that such a hip guy has never listened to that crap music. BTW, I never sat in the car overnight listening for the little electric motor, either. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
D'OH! On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Well you should probably try to drive there so they can check the alternator too. --R On 4/3/14 10:22 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So when I got home yesterday afternoon the car would not start. Turned a little, but died. I am leaning toward the battery won't hold a charge explanation. The battery was only slightly drained, jsut enough to prevent starting. Tonight I will the glove box door, which I doubt is the problem. If it isn't, and there are no other obvious answers, the low hanging fruit picking approach has me remove the battery and take it to Sears. They can test it and if it's unable to take a charge I will simply trade it in for one of their totally awesome 850 CCA Diehards. I will from that point live happily ever after. Once the battery problem has been solved and I can drive the '85 300TD again, I will start a new thread about whining (it's not what you think). Andrew Who looks forward to warm days so he can fiddle with his garage and two station wagons. Go Nats! On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:43 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yeah, with my electric scooter. Wilt - Original Message - From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD I was going to suggest that you stick your head in the trunk/boot but then it's probably full off amps and subwoofers. Hendrik who dose not have a fancy sound system On 03/04/14 14:45, WILTON wrote: Yeah, I know it's hard to believe that such a hip guy has never listened to that crap music. BTW, I never sat in the car overnight listening for the little electric motor, either. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
When my 300TD did this, the problem turned out to be a bad diode in the alternator. I replaced the rectifier assembly (twice) and both replacements also failed. Finally, I replaced the alternator with a Bosch reman from Rusty and it never failed while I owned the car. Use care not to damage the pulley moving it to the new alternator; even a small burr will destroy the belt in short order. Troubleshooting this (current leak) problem is straight forward assuming you have and can use a multimeter. I use leads with alligator clips to free up my hands. Most loads are fused so pulling fuses, one by one, while watching the meter, will tell you if one of those circuits is the problem. The start relay has its own fuse. The starter and alternator are hard wired to the battery (no fuse). The ETM for your vehicle can be quite helpful. I doubt a battery is the root cause but running a battery to zero will kill the battery, especially if done repeatedly and if left discharged for any time. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 10:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD So when I got home yesterday afternoon the car would not start. Turned a little, but died. I am leaning toward the battery won't hold a charge explanation. The battery was only slightly drained, jsut enough to prevent starting. Tonight I will the glove box door, which I doubt is the problem. If it isn't, and there are no other obvious answers, the low hanging fruit picking approach has me remove the battery and take it to Sears. They can test it and if it's unable to take a charge I will simply trade it in for one of their totally awesome 850 CCA Diehards. I will from that point live happily ever after. Once the battery problem has been solved and I can drive the '85 300TD again, I will start a new thread about whining (it's not what you think). Andrew Who looks forward to warm days so he can fiddle with his garage and two station wagons. Go Nats! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Henifay is such a buzz killer. --R On 4/1/14 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger On 01/04/14 05:45, Rich Thomas wrote: It is a negative ground. I just clip both to the battery posts (red + , black -) or you can do the thing with the black clamp to something bare metal, which is to minimize sparking when attaching/detaching the clamps, which could ignite the gases that come out the battery when charging (hydrogen and maybe some sulfurous stuff). But you can live dangerously! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
My battery is good, btw. The remaining mystery is what caused it go go totally dead. I will monitor/start it every few days from now on... On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Henifay is such a buzz killer. --R On 4/1/14 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger On 01/04/14 05:45, Rich Thomas wrote: It is a negative ground. I just clip both to the battery posts (red + , black -) or you can do the thing with the black clamp to something bare metal, which is to minimize sparking when attaching/detaching the clamps, which could ignite the gases that come out the battery when charging (hydrogen and maybe some sulfurous stuff). But you can live dangerously! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Glow plug relay first thing to check. --R On 4/2/14 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: My battery is good, btw. The remaining mystery is what caused it go go totally dead. I will monitor/start it every few days from now on... On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Henifay is such a buzz killer. --R On 4/1/14 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger On 01/04/14 05:45, Rich Thomas wrote: It is a negative ground. I just clip both to the battery posts (red + , black -) or you can do the thing with the black clamp to something bare metal, which is to minimize sparking when attaching/detaching the clamps, which could ignite the gases that come out the battery when charging (hydrogen and maybe some sulfurous stuff). But you can live dangerously! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
How would the GP relay drain the battery but not start the car? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Glow plug relay first thing to check. --R On 4/2/14 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: My battery is good, btw. The remaining mystery is what caused it go go totally dead. I will monitor/start it every few days from now on... On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Henifay is such a buzz killer. --R On 4/1/14 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger On 01/04/14 05:45, Rich Thomas wrote: It is a negative ground. I just clip both to the battery posts (red + , black -) or you can do the thing with the black clamp to something bare metal, which is to minimize sparking when attaching/detaching the clamps, which could ignite the gases that come out the battery when charging (hydrogen and maybe some sulfurous stuff). But you can live dangerously! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
CORRECTION: How would a bad GP realy drain the battery yet still allow me to start the car? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: How would the GP relay drain the battery but not start the car? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Glow plug relay first thing to check. --R On 4/2/14 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: My battery is good, btw. The remaining mystery is what caused it go go totally dead. I will monitor/start it every few days from now on... On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Henifay is such a buzz killer. --R On 4/1/14 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger On 01/04/14 05:45, Rich Thomas wrote: It is a negative ground. I just clip both to the battery posts (red + , black -) or you can do the thing with the black clamp to something bare metal, which is to minimize sparking when attaching/detaching the clamps, which could ignite the gases that come out the battery when charging (hydrogen and maybe some sulfurous stuff). But you can live dangerously! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Just get a battery tender and call it good.Here's a couple. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009IBJAS?ie=UTF8at=force-full-site=1ref_=aw_bottom_linkshttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/BAXTUY?ie=UTF8at=force-full-site=1ref_=aw_bottom_links Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Andrew StrasfogelSent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 10:26 AMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListReply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD My battery is good, btw. The remaining mystery is what caused it go go totally dead. I will monitor/start it every few days from now on... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
If the glow plug relay is stuck it will continue to send electrons to the glow plugs even when the car is off. While running the alternator might sorta keep up with the battery drain but when you shut the car off it will drain down the battery fast. This is what happened to the SD the daughter unit has, she got a new battery and it died too, a shop replaced the alternator and some other stuff and it was still having the same problem, I told them to check the relay and sho nuff that was the problem. Easy enough to see if the glow plugs are staying hot after the 30sec or whatever (or even without glowing -- put a finger on one, quickly!), or to put an ammeter on it and see if the relay is drawing current even after the glow period, or when the car is shut off. --R On 4/2/14 12:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: How would the GP relay drain the battery but not start the car? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Glow plug relay first thing to check. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC=xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC=xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC=xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC=xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
The light in the trunk is another possible culprit. You don't notice that it's stuck on. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC= xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
No trunk - this is a 300td (wagon) . -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 02 April 2014, 04:31PM -0400 from OK Don okd...@gmail.com: The light in the trunk is another possible culprit. You don't notice that it's stuck on. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC= xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
No trunk - this is a 300td (wagon) . -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 02 April 2014, 04:31PM -0400 from OK Don okd...@gmail.com: The light in the trunk is another possible culprit. You don't notice that it's stuck on. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC= xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:56:59 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? Not if the antenna is trying to retract the mast when it's all the way down. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Continued signal to retract after it's already retracted. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC=xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Yeah but you would hear it. What about glovebox light, has that one been suggested? Hendrik who is fighting evil phone companies On 03/04/14 10:17, Craig wrote: On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:56:59 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? Not if the antenna is trying to retract the mast when it's all the way down. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:16:25 +1030 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah but you would hear it. Not necessarily. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
'Never heard mine. BTW, my hearing is very good. Wilt - Original Message - From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Yeah but you would hear it. What about glovebox light, has that one been suggested? Hendrik who is fighting evil phone companies On 03/04/14 10:17, Craig wrote: On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:56:59 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? Not if the antenna is trying to retract the mast when it's all the way down. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Be honest Wilton, listening to heavy metal music whilst rolling on 22 spinners with the sunroof wide open, you are not going to hear a little electric motor in the boot working hard to shift the antenna mast. Hendrik who don't have 22's On 03/04/14 12:32, WILTON wrote: 'Never heard mine. BTW, my hearing is very good. Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
How would a bad GP realy drain the battery yet still allow me to start the car? These have two relay contacts, one running #1 and the other doing the rest. If the #1 contact welded on... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Yeah, I know it's hard to believe that such a hip guy has never listened to that crap music. BTW, I never sat in the car overnight listening for the little electric motor, either. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Be honest Wilton, listening to heavy metal music whilst rolling on 22 spinners with the sunroof wide open, you are not going to hear a little electric motor in the boot working hard to shift the antenna mast. Hendrik who don't have 22's On 03/04/14 12:32, WILTON wrote: 'Never heard mine. BTW, my hearing is very good. Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
I was going to suggest that you stick your head in the trunk/boot but then it's probably full off amps and subwoofers. Hendrik who dose not have a fancy sound system On 03/04/14 14:45, WILTON wrote: Yeah, I know it's hard to believe that such a hip guy has never listened to that crap music. BTW, I never sat in the car overnight listening for the little electric motor, either. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger On 01/04/14 05:45, Rich Thomas wrote: It is a negative ground. I just clip both to the battery posts (red + , black -) or you can do the thing with the black clamp to something bare metal, which is to minimize sparking when attaching/detaching the clamps, which could ignite the gases that come out the battery when charging (hydrogen and maybe some sulfurous stuff). But you can live dangerously! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger On 01/04/14 05:45, Rich Thomas wrote: It is a negative ground. I just clip both to the battery posts (red + , black -) or you can do the thing with the black clamp to something bare metal, which is to minimize sparking when attaching/detaching the clamps, which could ignite the gases that come out the battery when charging (hydrogen and maybe some sulfurous stuff). But you can live dangerously! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
