Re: [MBZ] Brain picking: Who knows about 102 engine block drain?
Hendrik, I was hoping to smoke you out, since I know you have a car or cars with this engine or similar and either know or ought to know. I'll look on the side where the exhaust manifold is. Thanks for your help. Pedantic? What's pedantic? Is that like walking crazy, or Monty Python's Ministry of Silly Walks sketch? ___ Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:03:57 +0930 From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brain picking: Who knows about 102 engine block drain ? What the heck are you talking about? The motor in question is a M102 not a OM. However you are close to the mark, the block drain plug is on the exhaust manifold side about halfway along the block. Pain to get at and I think it is 17mm. Make sure that the heater is set to full on while you run the motor to get it up to operating temp before dropping the coolant but wait till the temp drops so as to avoid a trip to hospital with second degree burns. Also leave the heater taps turned on to drain as much coolant as possible out of the cabin heating system. If the coolant is dirty and a lot of sludge comes out it is advisable to flush the system. Also put a piece of half inch garden hose on the radiator drain but some say it is better to remove the bottom radiator hose to get the coolant out faster and avoid sediment settlement but that is being pedantic. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brain picking: Who knows about 102 engine block drain ?
Hi folks And now for something completely different. - Monty Python I'm all set to change my coolant and install the Mercedes (actully, Daimler-Chrysler) approved Zerex G-5 or whatever to go with my new Behr Mercedes Benz radiator from Germany via Rusty. Thank you Rusty. The good things they say about you are true. I'll be back with some more odd parts requests soon. Engine 102.980 in Model 123.223 1983 European 123. My information says to drain the radiator with the plastic plug, which is easy. Drain the block and head by opening the block drain on the driver's side of the block. So far that's been impossible because I can't find the thing, or haven't yet.. Can anyone help me find the so far elusive block drain? Is it a plug which I must remove and later replace? Is it a drain cock that I just haven't found yet? From what perspective can I see and/or access it ? All are welcome to help improve my inadequate knowledge on this point. Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brain picking: Who knows about 102 engine block drain ?
If that is a 602 (should be a 616 in a W123 chassis, I think, even a Euro) the drain is on the side of the block between the last two cylinders, down at the bottom of the water jacket, or about halfway between the head gasket and the oil pan. It has a hose nipple on it and is a 19mm if I remember correctly. Works just like the wingnut type radiator drains. I believe the drain on a 616 is a plug, with a 14mm hex socket in it, but I could be wrong. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brain picking: Who knows about 102 engine block drain ?
Hello Peter I'll look for the thing you describe. It would be above the starter and really hard to see. Maybe that's why I haven't found it. I assure you this is a 102.980 four cylinder gasoline engine in a 123 chassis, marketed in most of the world, but not in the US, as a 230E. It is not a 230E on 124 chassis. It is a Daimler Benz model, not some kind of homemade conversion. The VIN (which I have sent to many would be suppliers who could not identify the car) is WDB 12322312170440. Build date is August 1983. I found after more than a year that the VIN does not contain the engine number, and the two are only vaguely related. Parts changes key on engine numbers, if you can believe that. Thanks for your help. [Original Message] From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: 10/13/2007 1:18:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brain picking: Who knows about 102 engine block drain ? If that is a 602 (should be a 616 in a W123 chassis, I think, even a Euro) the drain is on the side of the block between the last two cylinders, down at the bottom of the water jacket, or about halfway between the head gasket and the oil pan. It has a hose nipple on it and is a 19mm if I remember correctly. Works just like the wingnut type radiator drains. I believe the drain on a 616 is a plug, with a 14mm hex socket in it, but I could be wrong. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brain picking: Who knows about 102 engine block drain ?
What the heck are you talking about? The motor in question is a M102 not a OM. However you are close to the mark, the block drain plug is on the exhaust manifold side about halfway along the block. Pain to get at and I think it is 17mm. Make sure that the heater is set to full on while you run the motor to get it up to operating temp before dropping the coolant but wait till the temp drops so as to avoid a trip to hospital with second degree burns. Also leave the heater taps turned on to drain as much coolant as possible out of the cabin heating system. If the coolant is dirty and a lot of sludge comes out it is advisable to flush the system. Also put a piece of half inch garden hose on the radiator drain but some say it is better to remove the bottom radiator hose to get the coolant out faster and avoid sediment settlement but that is being pedantic. Peter Frederick wrote: If that is a 602 (should be a 616 in a W123 chassis, I think, even a Euro) the drain is on the side of the block between the last two cylinders, down at the bottom of the water jacket, or about halfway between the head gasket and the oil pan. It has a hose nipple on it and is a 19mm if I remember correctly. Works just like the wingnut type radiator drains. I believe the drain on a 616 is a plug, with a 14mm hex socket in it, but I could be wrong. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brain picking: Who knows about 102 engine block drain ?
If you are searching around the starter you are on the wrong side. Robert Bigham wrote: Hello Peter I'll look for the thing you describe. It would be above the starter and really hard to see. Maybe that's why I haven't found it. I assure you this is a 102.980 four cylinder gasoline engine in a 123 chassis, marketed in most of the world, but not in the US, as a 230E. It is not a 230E on 124 chassis. It is a Daimler Benz model, not some kind of homemade conversion. The VIN (which I have sent to many would be suppliers who could not identify the car) is WDB 12322312170440. Build date is August 1983. I found after more than a year that the VIN does not contain the engine number, and the two are only vaguely related. Parts changes key on engine numbers, if you can believe that. Thanks for your help. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brain picking: Who knows about 102 engine block drain ?
This is a Euro car, imported to the USA. 230E, 123 They are great cars! At 08:36 PM 10/13/2007, you wrote: If you are searching around the starter you are on the wrong side. Robert Bigham wrote: Hello Peter I'll look for the thing you describe. It would be above the starter and really hard to see. Maybe that's why I haven't found it. I assure you this is a 102.980 four cylinder gasoline engine in a 123 chassis, marketed in most of the world, but not in the US, as a 230E. It is not a 230E on 124 chassis. It is a Daimler Benz model, not some kind of homemade conversion. The VIN (which I have sent to many would be suppliers who could not identify the car) is WDB 12322312170440. Build date is August 1983. I found after more than a year that the VIN does not contain the engine number, and the two are only vaguely related. Parts changes key on engine numbers, if you can believe that. Thanks for your help. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
