[MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Bosch, Bremo, or Ate.  What's the difference?  Bosch is noticeably cheaper.
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Did you check the dealer? When you factor shipping in they might be cheaper. 
What vehicle is this for?

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My 83 300TD.  The car shudders in the rear when I brake.  I also need a
front sunroof seal (manual s/r).  Where can I get an OEM seal that will
work?

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> Did you check the dealer? When you factor shipping in they might be
> cheaper. What vehicle is this for?
>
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

why would these be your 3 considerations?

they are each chinese blanks finished in china, so i wouldn't be bothering
with any of them

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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

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I put Bosch on my 124 and they seem fine

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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

A new front brake disc is around $48 from the dealer. You can buy cheaper ones, 
but in a critical system why would you cut corners?

Dan

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> My 83 300TD.  The car shudders in the rear when I brake.  I also need a front 
> sunroof seal (manual s/r).  Where can I get an OEM seal that will work?
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Did you check the dealer? When you factor shipping in they might be cheaper. 
>> What vehicle is this for?
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> > On Sep 27, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

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cause chinese garbage is fun!

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> A new front brake disc is around $48 from the dealer. You can buy cheaper
> ones, but in a critical system why would you cut corners?
>
> Dan
>
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> > On Sep 27, 2014, at 10:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > My 83 300TD.  The car shudders in the rear when I brake.  I also need a
> front sunroof seal (manual s/r).  Where can I get an OEM seal that will
> work?
> >
> >> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> Did you check the dealer? When you factor shipping in they might be
> cheaper. What vehicle is this for?
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
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> >> > On Sep 27, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Bosch, Bremo, or Ate.  What's the difference?  Bosch is noticeably
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:43:04 -0400 Gary Hurst via Mercedes
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> cause chinese garbage is fun!

So which brands are not chinese garbage?


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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

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On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:34:45 -0400 Gary Hurst 
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> zimmermann, balo and mercedes are not chinese.  the rest all are.  i
> usually sell the zimmermann or balo coated versions
> 
> i don't see why one would prefer chinese blanks finished in china vs
> italian blanks finished in germany, but i'm always happy to be
> enlightened

I think people buy the other brands out of ignorance because at one time
they were indeed German products. That's why I asked which were good
brands.


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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

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i can't say they are definitive bad products but when they went chinese
without dropping the prices, well, i didn't feel any need to think about
them anymore.  if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the
savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they?

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> On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:34:45 -0400 Gary Hurst 
> wrote:
>
> > zimmermann, balo and mercedes are not chinese.  the rest all are.  i
> > usually sell the zimmermann or balo coated versions
> >
> > i don't see why one would prefer chinese blanks finished in china vs
> > italian blanks finished in germany, but i'm always happy to be
> > enlightened
>
> I think people buy the other brands out of ignorance because at one time
> they were indeed German products. That's why I asked which were good
> brands.
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

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On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes <
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> .  if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the
> savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they?
>

Capitalists/Free Marketers?

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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

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So, do have alternatives that you do think about now?

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> i can't say they are definitive bad products but when they went chinese
> without dropping the prices, well, i didn't feel any need to think about
> them anymore.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:43:04 -0400 Gary Hurst via Mercedes
 wrote:


cause chinese garbage is fun!


So which brands are not chinese garbage?


I don't mind Chinese garbage, as long as I don't pay much more than $1/lb for 
it. But I'm with Gary, if made in China carries the same price (like 
Vise-Grips), I'm not buying it.


Is Balo still good?

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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

zimmermann and balo are still german as is mercedes.  if you get the coated
zim or balo, you are basically at the latest mercedes spec but they are not
OEM as mercedes finishes their own rotors in house.  those are probably the
only 3 i sell anymore, with a slight bias for zimmermann but i don't have
any sort of real reason for that

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> Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:43:04 -0400 Gary Hurst via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  cause chinese garbage is fun!
>>>
>>
>> So which brands are not chinese garbage?
>>
>
> I don't mind Chinese garbage, as long as I don't pay much more than $1/lb
> for it. But I'm with Gary, if made in China carries the same price (like
> Vise-Grips), I'm not buying it.
>
> Is Balo still good?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

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Gary wrote:
> if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the
> savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they?
>

What kind of people are they?
They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner.
Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of
people.  We need to support people that are around us with values and
lives and bank accounts that look like us.  We need to push these
billionaires to the back of the bus in all ways.  All deals that look
good for our wallet are deals that are bad for us.  Categorically!!

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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

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How could Bosch be "Chinese"?

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> Gary wrote:
> > if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the
> > savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they?
> >
>
> What kind of people are they?
> They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner.
> Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

it's a box.  do you imagine there is a bosch brake rotor factory in teh
black forest?

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> How could Bosch be "Chinese"?
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Gary wrote:
> > > if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the
> > > savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they?
> > >
> >
> > What kind of people are they?
> > They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner.
> > Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of
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> > lives and bank accounts that look like us.  We need to push these
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Gary wrote:
> it's a box.  do you imagine there is a bosch brake rotor factory in teh
> black forest?

It is the same in every sector of our economy and all economies of the planet.
Medicine, manufacturing, consulting, design - it is all sourced to
chink/India and is generally poor quality.  Poorer quality than USA
wage might afford, I generalize.  Poorer quality than we typically
expect.  Yeah, your 172 Cessna would not be here today if sourced that
way.  Nor our W123.
ma

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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

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Gary wrote:
> zimmermann and balo are still german as is mercedes.
...
> those are probably the only 3 i sell anymore...

Excellent parts supplier info - thank you Gary!!
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Remember the cost of making the parts has been going up in non-China countries 
and prices haven't really risen. By moving to China they're reducing their cost 
of production so they can make some profit again...

-Curt



 From: Mountain Man via Mercedes 
To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
 

Gary wrote:
> if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the
> savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they?
>

What kind of people are they?
They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner.
Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of
people.  We need to support people that are around us with values and
lives and bank accounts that look like us.  We need to push these
billionaires to the back of the bus in all ways.  All deals that look
good for our wallet are deals that are bad for us.  Categorically!!




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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

yeah, and you guys have had such luck with chinese product anyway.  keep it
up!

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Remember the cost of making the parts has been going up in non-China
> countries and prices haven't really risen. By moving to China they're
> reducing their cost of production so they can make some profit again...
>
> -Curt
>
>
> 
>  From: Mountain Man via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
>
>
> Gary wrote:
> > if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the
> > savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they?
> >
>
> What kind of people are they?
> They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner.
> Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of
> people.  We need to support people that are around us with values and
> lives and bank accounts that look like us.  We need to push these
> billionaires to the back of the bus in all ways.  All deals that look
> good for our wallet are deals that are bad for us.  Categorically!!
> 
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The thing is that the Chinesium stuff is generally "good enough" which makes it 
hard to justify the "real thing". For instance I put cheap Advance Auto 
calipers on my '83 240D years ago because they were what I could get on a 
Saturday afternoon. They lasted the whole 25,000 miles I had the car and never 
gave any trouble. It would have been hard to justify more expensive calipers. 
Same with the cheap rotors and pads I put on it. I'd bought the car for $400, 
the brake job cost another I think $250...

-Curt



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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
 


yeah, and you guys have had such luck with chinese product anyway.  keep it up!




On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Remember the cost of making the parts has been going up in non-China countries 
and prices haven't really risen. By moving to China they're reducing their cost 
of production so they can make some profit again...
>
>-Curt
>
>
>
> From: Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:01 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
>
>
>
>Gary wrote:
>> if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the
>> savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they?
>>
>
>What kind of people are they?
>They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner.
>Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of
>people.  We need to support people that are around us with values and
>lives and bank accounts that look like us.  We need to push these
>billionaires to the back of the bus in all ways.  All deals that look
>good for our wallet are deals that are bad for us.  Categorically!!
>
>
>
>
>ma
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

yeah, they work good.  except when they don't.

those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too.  but i'm still wearing
alden's.

and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and
it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer.  i mean, it
could have been second hand smoke that did him in?

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The thing is that the Chinesium stuff is generally "good enough" which
> makes it hard to justify the "real thing". For instance I put cheap Advance
> Auto calipers on my '83 240D years ago because they were what I could get
> on a Saturday afternoon. They lasted the whole 25,000 miles I had the car
> and never gave any trouble. It would have been hard to justify more
> expensive calipers. Same with the cheap rotors and pads I put on it. I'd
> bought the car for $400, the brake job cost another I think $250...
>
> -Curt
>
>
> 
>  From: Gary Hurst 
> To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
>
>
>
> yeah, and you guys have had such luck with chinese product anyway.  keep
> it up!
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Remember the cost of making the parts has been going up in non-China
> countries and prices haven't really risen. By moving to China they're
> reducing their cost of production so they can make some profit again...
> >
> >-Curt
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Mountain Man via Mercedes 
> >To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:01 PM
> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
> >
> >
> >
> >Gary wrote:
> >> if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the
> >> savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they?
> >>
> >
> >What kind of people are they?
> >They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner.
> >Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of
> >people.  We need to support people that are around us with values and
> >lives and bank accounts that look like us.  We need to push these
> >billionaires to the back of the bus in all ways.  All deals that look
> >good for our wallet are deals that are bad for us.  Categorically!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th 
pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel 
inserts they are reasonably comfy.  $50 is "good enough."  The chinee 
dog food did kill my dog some years ago.


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On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:

yeah, they work good.  except when they don't.

those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too.  but i'm still wearing
alden's.

and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and
it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer.  i mean, it
could have been second hand smoke that did him in?





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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

And the Chinese-made sub 40 below $40C Canadian Tire boots kept my feet
toasty in the dead of Winnipeg winters.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th
> pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel inserts
> they are reasonably comfy.  $50 is "good enough."  The chinee dog food did
> kill my dog some years ago.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> yeah, they work good.  except when they don't.
>>
>> those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too.  but i'm still
>> wearing
>> alden's.
>>
>> and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and
>> it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer.  i mean, it
>> could have been second hand smoke that did him in?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yeah I hear you, my LL Bean hiking boots are made in Italy, they're twice as 
much money as the Chinee ones but last 3x as long.

I'm just saying on a $400 car it doesn't make sense to use $150 calipers.

-Curt



 From: Gary Hurst 
To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
 


yeah, they work good.  except when they don't.  

those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too.  but i'm still wearing 
alden's.  

and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and it 
really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer.  i mean, it could have 
been second hand smoke that did him in?





On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

The thing is that the Chinesium stuff is generally "good enough" which makes it 
hard to justify the "real thing". For instance I put cheap Advance Auto 
calipers on my '83 240D years ago because they were what I could get on a 
Saturday afternoon. They lasted the whole 25,000 miles I had the car and never 
gave any trouble. It would have been hard to justify more expensive calipers. 
Same with the cheap rotors and pads I put on it. I'd bought the car for $400, 
the brake job cost another I think $250...
>
>-Curt
>
>
>
> From: Gary Hurst 
>To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
>
>Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:27 PM
>
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
>
>
>
>yeah, and you guys have had such luck with chinese product anyway.  keep it up!
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
>Remember the cost of making the parts has been going up in non-China countries 
>and prices haven't really risen. By moving to China they're reducing their 
>cost of production so they can make some profit again...
>>
>>-Curt
>>
>>
>>________
>> From: Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>>To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:01 PM
>>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
>>
>>
>>
>>Gary wrote:
>>> if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the
>>> savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they?
>>>
>>
>>What kind of people are they?
>>They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner.
>>Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of
>>people.  We need to support people that are around us with values and
>>lives and bank accounts that look like us.  We need to push these
>>billionaires to the back of the bus in all ways.  All deals that look
>>good for our wallet are deals that are bad for us.  Categorically!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real "made in the USA", again 
about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day with no 
problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break in time like 
lesser boots.
I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet although I 
don't wear them all that much in the summer.


-Curt



 From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
To: Gary Hurst ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
 

I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th 
pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel 
inserts they are reasonably comfy.  $50 is "good enough."  The chinee 
dog food did kill my dog some years ago.

--R





On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:
> yeah, they work good.  except when they don't.
>
> those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too.  but i'm still wearing
> alden's.
>
> and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and
> it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer.  i mean, it
> could have been second hand smoke that did him in?
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Allen-Edmonds. 'nuf said.

Dan

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> On Sep 29, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real "made in the USA", 
> again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day with 
> no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break in time 
> like lesser boots.
> I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet although 
> I don't wear them all that much in the summer.
> 
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> To: Gary Hurst ; Mercedes Discussion List 
>  
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
> 
> 
> I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th 
> pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel 
> inserts they are reasonably comfy.  $50 is "good enough."  The chinee 
> dog food did kill my dog some years ago.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:
>> yeah, they work good.  except when they don't.
>> 
>> those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too.  but i'm still wearing
>> alden's.
>> 
>> and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and
>> it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer.  i mean, it
>> could have been second hand smoke that did him in?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

living in an urban area of florida, my use for boots is so limited, but i
really do desire them in my heart.  i might someday get some wolverine 1000
mile boots and just wear them on the beach and let everyone think i'm
crazy.
check em out  :)

http://www.wolverine.com/US/en-us/Product.mvc.aspx/20591M/74403

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real "made in the USA",
> again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day
> with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break
> in time like lesser boots.
> I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet
> although I don't wear them all that much in the summer.
>
>
> -Curt
>
>
> 
>  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> To: Gary Hurst ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
>
>
> I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th
> pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel
> inserts they are reasonably comfy.  $50 is "good enough."  The chinee
> dog food did kill my dog some years ago.
>
> --R
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:
> > yeah, they work good.  except when they don't.
> >
> > those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too.  but i'm still
> wearing
> > alden's.
> >
> > and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and
> > it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer.  i mean, it
> > could have been second hand smoke that did him in?
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

ok, here is my issue.  my feet sort of measure out as follows:

L:  13EE/D
R:  12EE/C

so i've got a mess with any pair of shoes made.  AE would tend to size at a
choice of 13E or 13EEE on casual shoes, which in J&M terminology would
leave me to choose between 13E/C or 13EEE/E. the former are going to be too
snug and the latter too big.  alden sells 13EE/D (they's invert it and
write it as 13D/EE) and they have some models with a huge toe box for my
mangled feet.

so this is the sole reason (eh, i'm funny!) that i prefer to wear alden
over AE at this very moment, although i really do love my chromexcel AEs
best of all

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Allen-Edmonds. 'nuf said.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Sep 29, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real "made in the USA",
> again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day
> with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break
> in time like lesser boots.
> > I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet
> although I don't wear them all that much in the summer.
> >
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> > To: Gary Hurst ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
> >
> >
> > I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th
> > pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel
> > inserts they are reasonably comfy.  $50 is "good enough."  The chinee
> > dog food did kill my dog some years ago.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:
> >> yeah, they work good.  except when they don't.
> >>
> >> those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too.  but i'm still
> wearing
> >> alden's.
> >>
> >> and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either
> and
> >> it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer.  i mean, it
> >> could have been second hand smoke that did him in?
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Everyone already thinks you are crazy, so boots would not be a factor.

I have a pair of leather Redwing boots I got in college to wear in 
winter snow, they have waffle treads and no insulation, which at the 
time was not really something you could find.  I think they are in a box 
somewhere, I would wear them occasionally when I was doing some sort of 
work where they were useful.  Last time I wore them I put some shoe oil 
on them as they were drying out a bit (they originally had oily 
leather).  I guess I have at least 40 years in them now, maybe I should 
wear them a bit more.


--R


On 9/29/14 3:11 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:

living in an urban area of florida, my use for boots is so limited, but i
really do desire them in my heart.  i might someday get some wolverine 1000
mile boots and just wear them on the beach and let everyone think i'm
crazy.
check em out  :)

http://www.wolverine.com/US/en-us/Product.mvc.aspx/20591M/74403

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real "made in the USA",
again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day
with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break
in time like lesser boots.
I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet
although I don't wear them all that much in the summer.


-Curt



  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
To: Gary Hurst ; Mercedes Discussion List <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?


I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th
pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel
inserts they are reasonably comfy.  $50 is "good enough."  The chinee
dog food did kill my dog some years ago.

--R





On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:

yeah, they work good.  except when they don't.

those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too.  but i'm still

wearing

alden's.

and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and
it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer.  i mean, it
could have been second hand smoke that did him in?




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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

what??  someone thinks i'm crazy

who?

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Everyone already thinks you are crazy, so boots would not be a factor.
>
> I have a pair of leather Redwing boots I got in college to wear in winter
> snow, they have waffle treads and no insulation, which at the time was not
> really something you could find.  I think they are in a box somewhere, I
> would wear them occasionally when I was doing some sort of work where they
> were useful.  Last time I wore them I put some shoe oil on them as they
> were drying out a bit (they originally had oily leather).  I guess I have
> at least 40 years in them now, maybe I should wear them a bit more.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 9/29/14 3:11 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> living in an urban area of florida, my use for boots is so limited, but i
>> really do desire them in my heart.  i might someday get some wolverine
>> 1000
>> mile boots and just wear them on the beach and let everyone think i'm
>> crazy.
>> check em out  :)
>>
>> http://www.wolverine.com/US/en-us/Product.mvc.aspx/20591M/74403
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real "made in the USA",
>>> again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day
>>> with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break
>>> in time like lesser boots.
>>> I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet
>>> although I don't wear them all that much in the summer.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>   From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>>> To: Gary Hurst ; Mercedes Discussion List <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
>>>
>>>
>>> I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th
>>> pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel
>>> inserts they are reasonably comfy.  $50 is "good enough."  The chinee
>>> dog food did kill my dog some years ago.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>>> yeah, they work good.  except when they don't.
>>>>
>>>> those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too.  but i'm still
>>>>
>>> wearing
>>>
>>>> alden's.
>>>>
>>>> and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either
>>>> and
>>>> it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer.  i mean, it
>>>> could have been second hand smoke that did him in?
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I suppose they're the bees knees but their boots look like sizzle without steak 
to me. Far too showy to be tramping through the mud and guck. They do appear to 
have a good working tread, probably bought from the same supplier as my Red 
Wings are. That they don't mention being waterproof would make me nervous 
though...

-Curt



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To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
 

Allen-Edmonds. 'nuf said.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 29, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real "made in the USA", 
> again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day with 
> no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break in time 
> like lesser boots.
> I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet although 
> I don't wear them all that much in the summer.
> 
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> To: Gary Hurst ; Mercedes Discussion List 
>  
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
> 
> 
> I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th 
> pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel 
> inserts they are reasonably comfy.  $50 is "good enough."  The chinee 
> dog food did kill my dog some years ago.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:
>> yeah, they work good.  except when they don't.
>> 
>> those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too.  but i'm still wearing
>> alden's.
>> 
>> and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and
>> it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer.  i mean, it
>> could have been second hand smoke that did him in?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You know that A-E will make up a pair of shoes to fit different sized feet.  
They do it all of the time, and it's one of their hallmarks.

Dan


On Sep 29, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> ok, here is my issue.  my feet sort of measure out as follows:
> 
> L:  13EE/D
> R:  12EE/C
> 
> so i've got a mess with any pair of shoes made.  AE would tend to size at a 
> choice of 13E or 13EEE on casual shoes, which in J&M terminology would leave 
> me to choose between 13E/C or 13EEE/E. the former are going to be too snug 
> and the latter too big.  alden sells 13EE/D (they's invert it and write it as 
> 13D/EE) and they have some models with a huge toe box for my mangled feet.  
> 
> so this is the sole reason (eh, i'm funny!) that i prefer to wear alden over 
> AE at this very moment, although i really do love my chromexcel AEs best of 
> all
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Truthfully, I wouldn't buy boots from A-E unless they were for dress. Red Wings 
are by far the very best boots I have owned, although it's been a long time 
since I've had any.

That's the only boot my Dad would buy (he was also the one who introduced me to 
A-E) and he bought them for my brother and I as well.  I think the last pair I 
had I outgrew before they wore out

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 29, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I suppose they're the bees knees but their boots look like sizzle without 
> steak to me. Far too showy to be tramping through the mud and guck. They do 
> appear to have a good working tread, probably bought from the same supplier 
> as my Red Wings are. That they don't mention being waterproof would make me 
> nervous though...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 3:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
> 
> Allen-Edmonds. 'nuf said.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Sep 29, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real "made in the USA", 
> > again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all day 
> > with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long break 
> > in time like lesser boots.
> > I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet 
> > although I don't wear them all that much in the summer.
> > 
> > 
> > -Curt
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> > To: Gary Hurst ; Mercedes Discussion List 
> >  
> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
> > 
> > 
> > I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th 
> > pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel 
> > inserts they are reasonably comfy.  $50 is "good enough."  The chinee 
> > dog food did kill my dog some years ago.
> > 
> > --R
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:
> >> yeah, they work good.  except when they don't.
> >> 
> >> those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too.  but i'm still wearing
> >> alden's.
> >> 
> >> and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and
> >> it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer.  i mean, it
> >> could have been second hand smoke that did him in?
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

i'll probably get wolverine or red wing if i end up getting boots.  if i
moved to central florida, maybe i can justify them more as a tool for
dealing with the terrain.  right now, though, i live in a paved over
mangrove swamp with pumps to keep the water out.  totally just artificial
apart from the beach, which i suspect is even mostly artificial

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Truthfully, I wouldn't buy boots from A-E unless they were for dress. Red
> Wings are by far the very best boots I have owned, although it's been a
> long time since I've had any.
>
> That's the only boot my Dad would buy (he was also the one who introduced
> me to A-E) and he bought them for my brother and I as well.  I think the
> last pair I had I outgrew before they wore out
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Sep 29, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > I suppose they're the bees knees but their boots look like sizzle
> without steak to me. Far too showy to be tramping through the mud and guck.
> They do appear to have a good working tread, probably bought from the same
> supplier as my Red Wings are. That they don't mention being waterproof
> would make me nervous though...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 3:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
> >
> > Allen-Edmonds. 'nuf said.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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> > > On Sep 29, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real "made in the
> USA", again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them all
> day with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no long
> break in time like lesser boots.
> > > I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet
> although I don't wear them all that much in the summer.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Curt
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> > > To: Gary Hurst ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
> > >
> > >
> > > I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th
> > > pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel
> > > inserts they are reasonably comfy.  $50 is "good enough."  The chinee
> > > dog food did kill my dog some years ago.
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> yeah, they work good.  except when they don't.
> > >>
> > >> those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too.  but i'm still
> wearing
> > >> alden's.
> > >>
> > >> and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either
> and
> > >> it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer.  i mean,
> it
> > >> could have been second hand smoke that did him in?
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

--R wrote:
> I am wearing chinee work boots right now...

Heathen!!
Yeah, eff your neighbor and watch him disappear as all jobs disappear.
Your examples of PRC that works is idiot short sighted.  Hear the
prophet.  Speak, Gary.
ma

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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

some people just have no class

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> --R wrote:
> > I am wearing chinee work boots right now...
>
> Heathen!!
> Yeah, eff your neighbor and watch him disappear as all jobs disappear.
> Your examples of PRC that works is idiot short sighted.  Hear the
> prophet.  Speak, Gary.
> ma
>
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Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Thank you.

--R


On 9/29/14 7:45 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:

some people just have no class

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


--R wrote:

I am wearing chinee work boots right now...

Heathen!!
Yeah, eff your neighbor and watch him disappear as all jobs disappear.
Your examples of PRC that works is idiot short sighted.  Hear the
prophet.  Speak, Gary.
ma

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