Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
It's mindless garbage, like so much else on TV. - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people? David Brodbeck wrote: I don't think it was meant to prove anything, or test anything. I think you're missing the point. It was supposed to be amusing. I enjoyed it, but I recognize not everyone shares my sense of humor. (I also think it's interesting to see just how much punishment things will take, and how they break when they're abused. In this case I was pretty impressed.) You also have to understand that, to a lot of people, Mercedes cars are still thought of as the province of doctors, lawyers, and CEOs. Relatively few people could afford one when they were new. Many a white collar criminal has been filmed getting into one by news cameras. There's an element of schadenfreude in seeing one abused. The program is entertainment! That's it's purpose. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 1/08/2006
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
David Brodbeck wrote: I don't think it was meant to prove anything, or test anything. I think you're missing the point. It was supposed to be amusing. I enjoyed it, but I recognize not everyone shares my sense of humor. (I also think it's interesting to see just how much punishment things will take, and how they break when they're abused. In this case I was pretty impressed.) You also have to understand that, to a lot of people, Mercedes cars are still thought of as the province of doctors, lawyers, and CEOs. Relatively few people could afford one when they were new. Many a white collar criminal has been filmed getting into one by news cameras. There's an element of schadenfreude in seeing one abused. The program is entertainment! That's it's purpose. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
It is strange because that sort of thing is good advertising for MB, I suppose they where hoping that the 124 would fall apart at the first pothole and they would stand around it and snigger at the supposed build quality of the star brand. However I see that sort of thing as pointless, if they had put the 124 against comparable cars from other car makers I would have said yeah I can see the point but to take just one car and try and kill it does not make sense. Now the question is which cars would be comprable to the 124 T? Italian would be Alfa, French Peugot or Citron, Swedish Volvo, British Jaguar, perhaps someone could help me out with an American car, I know that in Oz nothing was made that could be compared with a 124. However even buying three different second hand cars would not be fair because of the way they have been treated in the past. That 124 might have had 's spend on it recently to refurbish it whereas another car might have had 0 $'s spend on it. Anyway I don't bother watching that show because they play around with stuff I can't afford and all they are doing is making me feel inadequate because I don't drive a super car and don't have a racing car to play with on the weekends. Then again I have a UNIMOG which is way cooler than any Ferrari will ever be, unless Ferrari decides to make a high performance 4x4 truck with a towing capacity of 11 tonnes (not that you would pull 11 tonnes down the road with a 5 tonne vehicle). - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 3:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people? Ed Booher wrote: I always thought it was you still harbored a hatred of Germans, and hence, enjoy destroying Mercedes. Fifth Gear has destroyed Mercedes in several different segments. But having too much time on your hands is a good explanation too. It's not like it's just a British thing. Haven't you ever been to a demolition derby? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 25/07/2006
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
Hendrik Riessen wrote: It is strange because that sort of thing is good advertising for MB, I suppose they where hoping that the 124 would fall apart at the first pothole and they would stand around it and snigger at the supposed build quality of the star brand. However I see that sort of thing as pointless, if they had put the 124 against comparable cars from other car makers I would have said yeah I can see the point but to take just one car and try and kill it does not make sense. I don't think it was meant to prove anything, or test anything. I think you're missing the point. It was supposed to be amusing. I enjoyed it, but I recognize not everyone shares my sense of humor. (I also think it's interesting to see just how much punishment things will take, and how they break when they're abused. In this case I was pretty impressed.) You also have to understand that, to a lot of people, Mercedes cars are still thought of as the province of doctors, lawyers, and CEOs. Relatively few people could afford one when they were new. Many a white collar criminal has been filmed getting into one by news cameras. There's an element of schadenfreude in seeing one abused.
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
Jeff Zedic wrote: I would guess that it was either because ofthe fuel economy, lackthereof by UK standards, age and quite possibly that it had some fault that didn't allow it to pass the MOT. I thought it was road ready, 695 pounds with tax, tags, etc from what I recall Vicki saying at the start. Don't you love the way they keep saying old Benz were well built, pre-93 Benz were well built... so as to avoid implying that the Germans make good cars now. Kaleb: I reposted it because I had been unable to get all of it before it was taken down the last time. Somebody reposted it on YouTube, Dave M told me, and I passed the new links on to the list.
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
Ed Booher wrote: I always thought it was you still harbored a hatred of Germans, and hence, enjoy destroying Mercedes. Fifth Gear has destroyed Mercedes in several different segments. But having too much time on your hands is a good explanation too. It's not like it's just a British thing. Haven't you ever been to a demolition derby?
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
Demolition Derbies hate Germans too? On 7/31/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed Booher wrote: I always thought it was you still harbored a hatred of Germans, and hence, enjoy destroying Mercedes. Fifth Gear has destroyed Mercedes in several different segments. But having too much time on your hands is a good explanation too. It's not like it's just a British thing. Haven't you ever been to a demolition derby? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
Don't they wear demolition derbies on work sites? I know the bankers have some funky derbies, you see them in London occasionally looking veddy bankerish, with the brolly and pinstripe suit, maybe the (de)construction guys have their own versions? --R Ed Booher wrote: Demolition Derbies hate Germans too? On 7/31/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed Booher wrote: I always thought it was you still harbored a hatred of Germans, and hence, enjoy destroying Mercedes. Fifth Gear has destroyed Mercedes in several different segments. But having too much time on your hands is a good explanation too. It's not like it's just a British thing. Haven't you ever been to a demolition derby? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
Hm - I'm not entirely sure - maybe we have too much time on our hands ? The presenter, Vicki Butler-Henderson is a very capable racing driver, and a babe too ! Howard Fulford Bath England 190E '89, 145319 miles
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
I always thought it was you still harbored a hatred of Germans, and hence, enjoy destroying Mercedes. Fifth Gear has destroyed Mercedes in several different segments. But having too much time on your hands is a good explanation too. On 7/30/06, Howard Fulford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm - I'm not entirely sure - maybe we have too much time on our hands ? The presenter, Vicki Butler-Henderson is a very capable racing driver, and a babe too ! Howard Fulford Bath England 190E '89, 145319 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
I'll agree with that!! That girl is SMOKIN' HOT as we say on this side of the pond. She drives, she blows stuff up, she's pretty funny, she's very pretty, she's got one heck of a body and she can aim a cannonWhat more could a man ask for in a woman? Mike - Original Message - From: Howard Fulford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people? Hm - I'm not entirely sure - maybe we have too much time on our hands ? The presenter, Vicki Butler-Henderson is a very capable racing driver, and a babe too ! Howard Fulford Bath England 190E '89, 145319 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
How many times is this going to be posted? This is at least the 3rd or 4th that I can remember in the last 2 or 3 weeks. Mitch Haley wrote: It's been reposted on youtube. Do I have the whole show? Part 4 ends with a replay of the burning after the mechanic cranks it over post bombing with a jump start. Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bIV_hHPAFQ Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRKhKKdXIl4 Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn19Qj5jtf4 Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTedyrdAzV0 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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On Sun, 30 Jul, Mike Canfield wrote - I'll agree with that!! That girl is SMOKIN' HOT as we say on this side of the pond. She drives, she blows stuff up, she's pretty funny, she's very pretty, she's got one heck of a body and she can aim a cannonWhat more could a man ask for in a woman? The ability to change a B2 piston maybe, or to replace the sunroof tilt lifting arms on a W210 ? Howard Fulford (single !!) Bath England 190E '89, 145319 miles
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I'm betting she could handle that. Mike - Original Message - From: Howard Fulford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people? On Sun, 30 Jul, Mike Canfield wrote - I'll agree with that!! That girl is SMOKIN' HOT as we say on this side of the pond. She drives, she blows stuff up, she's pretty funny, she's very pretty, she's got one heck of a body and she can aim a cannonWhat more could a man ask for in a woman? The ability to change a B2 piston maybe, or to replace the sunroof tilt lifting arms on a W210 ? Howard Fulford (single !!) Bath England 190E '89, 145319 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
I'm betting she could handle that. Yeah, with dynamite! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
I still can't understand how they found that great W124 station wagon for £695 - at current conversion that's $1294.47. I'd buy it in a minute unless there's 400+k (I know, just broken in good) without any records. By the video, it looks like it runs pretty good. Oh well - another nice W124 becomes Kalebmeat. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people? I'm betting she could handle that. Mike - Original Message - From: Howard Fulford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people? On Sun, 30 Jul, Mike Canfield wrote - I'll agree with that!! That girl is SMOKIN' HOT as we say on this side of the pond. She drives, she blows stuff up, she's pretty funny, she's very pretty, she's got one heck of a body and she can aim a cannonWhat more could a man ask for in a woman? The ability to change a B2 piston maybe, or to replace the sunroof tilt lifting arms on a W210 ? Howard Fulford (single !!) Bath England 190E '89, 145319 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
I would guess that it was either because ofthe fuel economy, lackthereof by UK standards, age and quite possibly that it had some fault that didn't allow it to pass the MOT. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
It's been reposted on youtube. Do I have the whole show? Part 4 ends with a replay of the burning after the mechanic cranks it over post bombing with a jump start. Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bIV_hHPAFQ Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRKhKKdXIl4 Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn19Qj5jtf4 Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTedyrdAzV0
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Zeitgeist wrote: Watch this four part series of wonton Mercedes abuse at your own risk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bIV_hHPAFQmode=relatedsearch= I get a private video message. Did I do something wrong? (mozilla firebird) When I d/l the link Levi provided, I got a 5 minute video that ended at what seemed to be the first commercial break, after a preview of a water trap and a monster truck.
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
Someone posted a link to a news story about an MB that was run over by a NATO tank (in Norway?) a year or two ago. The tank went over the drivers side - about one tread width. It crushed the car to the top of the door window sill. The driver and his wife were not injured. That convinced me of the structural integrity of the MB. On 7/19/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, they used a bit more than wontons on that car, I especially liked the energetic dissociations of various devices in the final reel. It was funny in one scene where the rear wiper was still trying to do it's job with the window missing, the hatch all bent up. If I ever get into a crash with a monster truck I want to be driving one of these cars (wait, I think I do). --R -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 19:15:00 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: Watch this four part series of wonton Mercedes abuse at your own risk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bIV_hHPAFQmode=relatedsearch= I get a private video message. Did I do something wrong? (mozilla firebird) I saw the first two parts yesterday, but when I click on the link today I also get the private video message. Somebody must have changed something on the website. I saw a link on Drudge that takes one to http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6095736.html which is a story about YouTube sued over copyright infringement. Maybe that has something to do with it. Craig
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Is that a Chinese guy driving it? --R Zeitgeist wrote: Watch this four part series of wonton Mercedes abuse at your own risk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bIV_hHPAFQmode=relatedsearch=
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Ya, he spilled some to that creme of sum yung gy soup in his lap; hence the wonton mayhem that ensued. On 7/18/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that a Chinese guy driving it? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k) '84 300D (214k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
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One a them funny guys, huh? --R Zeitgeist wrote: Ya, he spilled some to that creme of sum yung gy soup in his lap; hence the wonton mayhem that ensued. On 7/18/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that a Chinese guy driving it? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k) '84 300D (214k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I doubt that the FSM was amused --- by the video, not the banter. On 7/18/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One a them funny guys, huh? --R -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
Well, they used a bit more than wontons on that car, I especially liked the energetic dissociations of various devices in the final reel. It was funny in one scene where the rear wiper was still trying to do it's job with the window missing, the hatch all bent up. If I ever get into a crash with a monster truck I want to be driving one of these cars (wait, I think I do). --R Zeitgeist wrote: Watch this four part series of wonton Mercedes abuse at your own risk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bIV_hHPAFQmode=relatedsearch=
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695lbs? That seems pretty cheap Rich Thomas wrote: Well, they used a bit more than wontons on that car, I especially liked the energetic dissociations of various devices in the final reel. It was funny in one scene where the rear wiper was still trying to do it's job with the window missing, the hatch all bent up. If I ever get into a crash with a monster truck I want to be driving one of these cars (wait, I think I do). --R Zeitgeist wrote: Watch this four part series of wonton Mercedes abuse at your own risk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bIV_hHPAFQmode=relatedsearch= ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Is there a way to download the videos to watch later on that site? My PC comes up with an error message. Would love to watch them but can't sit here in front of the PC waiting for them to load. Mike - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people? Well, they used a bit more than wontons on that car, I especially liked the energetic dissociations of various devices in the final reel. It was funny in one scene where the rear wiper was still trying to do it's job with the window missing, the hatch all bent up. If I ever get into a crash with a monster truck I want to be driving one of these cars (wait, I think I do). --R Zeitgeist wrote: Watch this four part series of wonton Mercedes abuse at your own risk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bIV_hHPAFQmode=relatedsearch= ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have yet to complete the process to verify 100%, but it appears so... I'm downloading from this site right now: http://keepvid.com/ But it looks like this would probably work directly... http://videodownloader.net/get/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyoutube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-bIV_hHPAFQ On 7/19/06, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to download the videos to watch later on that site? My PC comes up with an error message. Would love to watch them but can't sit here in front of the PC waiting for them to load. Mike
[MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
Watch this four part series of wonton Mercedes abuse at your own risk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bIV_hHPAFQmode=relatedsearch= -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k) '84 300D (214k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
