Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.
On 2022-11-09 19:58, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: Until you get into a serious accident and the tin can car fails to protect you…. At first I thought you were talking about my desire to play around in a 40 year old Starlet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.
Until you get into a serious accident and the tin can car fails to protect you…. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 9, 2022, at 2:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2022, at 14:38, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > >> I really want one of those new corolla grx things though. 300hp on 1.6L has >> to be some kind of record for a production car and they probably will not >> make them very long. Owning a Lexus gx460 for four years has made me a >> toyota fan. > > Agree, never had a bad experience with Toyota cars other than rust on the '87 > truck. Mechanically they have all been nearly flawless. Honda/Acura has built > a great reputation but I have not found their cars to be reliable in the long > term. I think Toyota/Lexus builds better cars. > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.
On 2022-11-09 14:38, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: I really want one of those new corolla grx things though. 300hp on 1.6L has to be some kind of record for a production car and they probably will not make them very long. Owning a Lexus gx460 for four years has made me a toyota fan. When they announced that thing, my first thought was that it would be awesome to get a wrecked one and rebuild it in a 40 year old Starlet or Tercel body donor. Yes, it'd be crude and rattly, but the power to weight ratio and sleeper factor would be off the charts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.
On Wed, Nov 9, 2022, at 14:38, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > I really want one of those new corolla grx things though. 300hp on 1.6L has > to be some kind of record for a production car and they probably will not > make them very long. Owning a Lexus gx460 for four years has made me a > toyota fan. Agree, never had a bad experience with Toyota cars other than rust on the '87 truck. Mechanically they have all been nearly flawless. Honda/Acura has built a great reputation but I have not found their cars to be reliable in the long term. I think Toyota/Lexus builds better cars. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.
Are those other vehicles you mentioned EV or gas? On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 2:39 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The wagon got swiped by some dude at school dropoff, so his insurance is > paying for me to drive a Tesla for a couple weeks. Model Y. Basic model. > > There are some things to get used to, for instance you dont turn the car > off. You just put it into park and get out and walk away and it locks > itself up. > > The screen is like learning a new software program. Works well for t gh e > mostpart but not what I am looking for when I get in a car. It would be > better with some manual a/c controls. > > Rarely use the brakes at all. Taking foot off accelerator brings the car to > a halt more aggressively than I usually brake. > > The auto steer chirps for no apparent reason sometimes to save me from > myself I guess. > > Handling is like driving a stiffly sprung SUV. Definitely not a luxury > ride. > > Ridiculously quick. I find myself accelerating to speeds I would never > consider in the diesel between stop signs for example. > > The driver assist stuff is all helpful to keep you from running into stuff > and make you aware of your surroundings. These cars are going to be > involved in fewer acceidents than normal cars, for sure. > > So yes they make speed boring but in general it seems hard to argue with it > for a city car: no point source emissions, quiet, crashworthy, less brake > dust, cameras all over constantly recording, never go to a gas station or > get your oil changed. If you dont need a truck and can spend 50k on a car > there are far dumber vehicles to buy for most americans. Radio is truly > excellent and kids love the glass roof. > > I really want one of those new corolla grx things though. 300hp on 1.6L has > to be some kind of record for a production car and they probably will not > make them very long. Owning a Lexus gx460 for four years has made me a > toyota fan. > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022, 5:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I drove a Tesla model S a couple years ago. Dimitri only says the driving > > experience is insipid because he's never driven one. > > Curt > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 7:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes< > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Well, some of the EVs have kick-ass > > acceleration, till the battery dies. > > > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 5:55 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > Haha. Well I’m not saying that guys who drive EVs are gay, I’m > suggesting > > > that they might be wusses. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > On Nov 8, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > are you sure? That appears to be a woman he is kissing. > > > > > > > >> On 08/11/2022 5:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > > >> > > > >> ___ > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you > > are wearing." > > > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > > Wernher > > Von Braun > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okieben
Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.
The wagon got swiped by some dude at school dropoff, so his insurance is paying for me to drive a Tesla for a couple weeks. Model Y. Basic model. There are some things to get used to, for instance you dont turn the car off. You just put it into park and get out and walk away and it locks itself up. The screen is like learning a new software program. Works well for t gh e mostpart but not what I am looking for when I get in a car. It would be better with some manual a/c controls. Rarely use the brakes at all. Taking foot off accelerator brings the car to a halt more aggressively than I usually brake. The auto steer chirps for no apparent reason sometimes to save me from myself I guess. Handling is like driving a stiffly sprung SUV. Definitely not a luxury ride. Ridiculously quick. I find myself accelerating to speeds I would never consider in the diesel between stop signs for example. The driver assist stuff is all helpful to keep you from running into stuff and make you aware of your surroundings. These cars are going to be involved in fewer acceidents than normal cars, for sure. So yes they make speed boring but in general it seems hard to argue with it for a city car: no point source emissions, quiet, crashworthy, less brake dust, cameras all over constantly recording, never go to a gas station or get your oil changed. If you dont need a truck and can spend 50k on a car there are far dumber vehicles to buy for most americans. Radio is truly excellent and kids love the glass roof. I really want one of those new corolla grx things though. 300hp on 1.6L has to be some kind of record for a production car and they probably will not make them very long. Owning a Lexus gx460 for four years has made me a toyota fan. On Tue, Nov 8, 2022, 5:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I drove a Tesla model S a couple years ago. Dimitri only says the driving > experience is insipid because he's never driven one. > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 7:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Well, some of the EVs have kick-ass > acceleration, till the battery dies. > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 5:55 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Haha. Well I’m not saying that guys who drive EVs are gay, I’m suggesting > > that they might be wusses. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Nov 8, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > are you sure? That appears to be a woman he is kissing. > > > > > >> On 08/11/2022 5:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you > are wearing." > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.
I drove a Tesla model S a couple years ago. Dimitri only says the driving experience is insipid because he's never driven one. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 7:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Well, some of the EVs have kick-ass acceleration, till the battery dies. On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 5:55 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Haha. Well I’m not saying that guys who drive EVs are gay, I’m suggesting > that they might be wusses. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 8, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > are you sure? That appears to be a woman he is kissing. > > > >> On 08/11/2022 5:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> ___ > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.
Well, some of the EVs have kick-ass acceleration, till the battery dies. On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 5:55 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Haha. Well I’m not saying that guys who drive EVs are gay, I’m suggesting > that they might be wusses. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 8, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > are you sure? That appears to be a woman he is kissing. > > > >> On 08/11/2022 5:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> ___ > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.
Haha. Well I’m not saying that guys who drive EVs are gay, I’m suggesting that they might be wusses. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 8, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > are you sure? That appears to be a woman he is kissing. > >> On 08/11/2022 5:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.
are you sure? That appears to be a woman he is kissing. On 08/11/2022 5:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: Sent from my iPhone ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com