Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Manifold

2013-08-12 Thread clay
no cat.

PnP had a 77 slc I was hoping to rob manifold, but it is wrong type.  Mine is 
one piece, no flex pipes, and has the end nuts on long bolts instead of the 
close in bolts all along.  I think the ends use the copper nuts.  I could cut 
those off, but I fear the rest of it is so old that all that holds it on is 
oxidized iron on the rest of the bolts

clay

On Aug 10, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:

 Does it have cats?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Manifold

2013-08-12 Thread clay
I looked extra hard and it looks like steel nuts on the studs.  The center 
spots are close in bolts.  I could kroil the crap out of everything.

clay


On Aug 10, 2013, at 7:19 PM, OK Don wrote:

 It's the '74 SL (???) - should not have CATs. Check to see that one of the
 studs is not already broken. My '78 had a broken stud when I got it - it
 was a pain to remove/replace. If it has the original type copper nuts, it's
 just a job in a tight place, nothing special. If the studs break from
 trying to remove rusted on steel nuts, it can be a real challenge.
 I making the assumption that the '74 has studs with nuts, not bolts holding
 the exhaust manifold on - might not though.
 
 
 On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote:
 
 Does it have cats?
 
 
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[MBZ] Exhaust Manifold

2013-08-10 Thread clay
Frosch has developed a loud leak on #6 and #8.  PPI showed one of them, but it 
was tiny and until now not noticeable.  Now it just roars.

What is estimated book time to swap out the gaskets to get the thing to quiet 
down?  I am on the fence over doing it myself, or having my indy do it.  I have 
had terrible results swinging my own wrench, in that the older bolts tend to 
shear off or some other horrid outcome prevails.  Then I have to have the car 
towed to indy anyway.   Maybe I cut the nuts and run a thread former on the 
bolt.  

If I do it my own self, what should my shopping list look like?  I could not 
figure out what all I needed from the CD or clymer manual.   Would I do both 
sides, or can I get by with only the noisy side?  

I am not interested in letting K'leb have it for $500


clay 

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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Manifold

2013-08-10 Thread Peter Frederick

Remind me, what model and year?

Typically a royal pain to get to, but never had a problem with the  
nuts being frozen or anything.  I replaced the left exhaust manifold  
on the 72 280SE 4.5 and other than the VERY tight quarters, it's not a  
bad job.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Manifold

2013-08-10 Thread clay
1974 M117 450SL

How long would it take a reasonably skilled person to attempt?  I would prefer 
it not be open for overly long.

On Aug 10, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:

 Remind me, what model and year?
 
 Typically a royal pain to get to, but never had a problem with the nuts being 
 frozen or anything.  I replaced the left exhaust manifold on the 72 280SE 4.5 
 and other than the VERY tight quarters, it's not a bad job.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Manifold

2013-08-10 Thread Peter Frederick

Does it have cats?

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Manifold

2013-08-10 Thread OK Don
It's the '74 SL (???) - should not have CATs. Check to see that one of the
studs is not already broken. My '78 had a broken stud when I got it - it
was a pain to remove/replace. If it has the original type copper nuts, it's
just a job in a tight place, nothing special. If the studs break from
trying to remove rusted on steel nuts, it can be a real challenge.
I making the assumption that the '74 has studs with nuts, not bolts holding
the exhaust manifold on - might not though.


On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote:

 Does it have cats?


 Peter




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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Manifold

2013-08-10 Thread Peter Frederick
If there are no cats, it's not a bad job.  Tight space, but with the  
exhaust off it's just fiddly.


Check for a cracked manifold too -- the left side is known for  
fractures.


Peter

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