Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Fmiser]

> >> tyler wrote:
> >>
> >> It's amazing that no company ever bothered to offer such a
> >> thing in the US. If such a thing existed (AWD diesel wagon)
> >> I wouldn't drive anything else!

> > Fmiser wrote:
> > A few years ago a fellow on the list built one. Used Nissan
> > running gear, as I recall.

> Mitch wrote:
>
> Brian Roth, perhaps?
> I think he used a divorced Toyota transfer case, maybe with
> the mbz tranny?

Yeah - that sounds right. I guess I was remembering the wrong
Japan manufacturer.

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Kevin]

Even in Canada, parts for them are starting to get a little hard to come
by. The 3B and 2H have been out of production for almost 24 years, and 
parts for them are starting to get a little on the scarce side.

I keep an interchange list that lists the cross references for everything
in the glove box in case I need something while on the road. 

A little later in production, the 12HT and 13BT are also out of production,
and Toyota doesn't seem all that jazzed about continuing to support them. 
The real unfortunate thing is the 1HZ and 1HD serieses they'll continue to
support them, but those two are OHC belt driven engines...

It's a fun truck for road trips, for sure, and the way mine is set up now,
an easier drive through rocky trails than a 300GD which is geared a bit too 
tall for some of the rocky trails around here. If I had to daily drive it,
though, I'd have a 300GD instead of the cruiser, as 300GD parts are as easy
as a phone call to rusty and have them appear in a couple of days. Not quite
as easy with th BJ-60...

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 09:18:10AM +, Jeff Zedic wrote:
> It is VERY easy to get oarts for a HJ or BJ Landcruiser! Just call a
> Canadian dealer and deal with them!

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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[John Robbins]

John Freer wrote:

Thought MB didn't produce a RHD turbo diesel as there wasn't enough
room for the steering apparatus.


That is my understanding...

John


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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Jeff Zedic]

It is VERY easy to get oarts for a HJ or BJ Landcruiser! Just call a
Canadian dealer and deal with them!

I used to have a lot of US customers needing parts.  No biggie. The US
dealer network just likes to play dumb and say they don't exist. They
have the same info and can get the parts but seem to be too lazy to do
it.

That was my experience with 13 years at Toyota dealers. I sent cruiser
parts all over the world because I would take the time to do the work.


Zedic

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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[John Freer]

Thought MB didn't produce a RHD turbo diesel as there wasn't enough
room for the steering apparatus.

John

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Hendrik & Fay  wrote:
> It was an engineering problem MB could not be bothered to work out for the
> numbers they would have sold. Same reason why they never made a RHD V8 124.
> There is other factors that come into play such as the way the turbo Diesels
> deliver their power. I also think that is pretty much impossible to retro
> fit a OM onto the 4matic drive system. The M103 and the 4matic system where
> pretty much build to fit together like a puzzle.
>
> Hendrik
>
> Jim Cathey wrote:
>>>
>>> Why couldn't Mercedes have made a W124 4matic diesel wagon, and sold it
>>> in the USA? :(
>>
>> Dunno, but if they had there's be two or three of them
>> living on our road!
>>
>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen vs Nissan SD33

[Hendrik & Fay]

Push rod with OHV. Very well build engine, I adjusted the valves in it 
once in the years I had it and most of them did not need adjusting.
Yes it is the same engine and no there is no camshaft sitting on top 
that I could see.


Hendrik

Mitch Haley wrote:

Hendrik & Fay wrote:

I said push rod engine and not side valve.
There is a difference between OHC and OHV.


I know that. You said the one in the Nissan was push rod, I confirmed 
that the Scout one was OHV and gave the displacement so you could 
compare with the Nissan and maybe tell us if it was the same engine.


Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Hendrik & Fay]

It was an engineering problem MB could not be bothered to work out for 
the numbers they would have sold. Same reason why they never made a RHD 
V8 124.
There is other factors that come into play such as the way the turbo 
Diesels deliver their power. I also think that is pretty much impossible 
to retro fit a OM onto the 4matic drive system. The M103 and the 4matic 
system where pretty much build to fit together like a puzzle.


Hendrik

Jim Cathey wrote:
Why couldn't Mercedes have made a W124 4matic diesel wagon, and sold 
it in the USA? :(


Dunno, but if they had there's be two or three of them
living on our road!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen vs Nissan SD33

[Mitch Haley]

Hendrik & Fay wrote:

I said push rod engine and not side valve.
There is a difference between OHC and OHV.


I know that. You said the one in the Nissan was push rod, I confirmed that the 
Scout one was OHV and gave the displacement so you could compare with the Nissan 
and maybe tell us if it was the same engine.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Mitch Haley]

Fmiser wrote:

tyler wrote:

It's amazing that no company ever bothered to offer such a
thing in the US. If such a thing existed (AWD diesel wagon) I
wouldn't drive anything else!


A few years ago a fellow on the list built one. Used Nissan
running gear, as I recall.


Brian Roth, perhaps?
I think he used a divorced Toyota transfer case, maybe with the mbz tranny?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen vs Nissan SD33

[Hendrik & Fay]

I said push rod engine and not side valve.
There is a difference between OHC and OHV.
The MQ Patrol is a very tough machine and in low range 4x4 can just 
about pull the Empire State building down route 69 to LA.
The next generation of Nissan Diesels are pretty junky from what I have 
heard. They cut down the weight and I think installed an OHC (that's 
over head camshaft for those who are confused).


Hendrik

Mitch Haley wrote:

Hendrik & Fay wrote:

Don't know the scout is a very rare machine here.


The Scout Nissan diesel is often referred to as the 6-33 and 6-33T,
or SD-33 and SD-33T

Looks like an OHV to me, 3246cc.
http://home.earthlink.net/~calicosmith/sd-33info.htm




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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Fmiser]

> tyler wrote:
>
> It's amazing that no company ever bothered to offer such a
> thing in the US. If such a thing existed (AWD diesel wagon) I
> wouldn't drive anything else!

A few years ago a fellow on the list built one. Used Nissan
running gear, as I recall.

I probably have it in my archive - if I bother to look

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen vs Nissan SD33

[Curt Raymond]

Yeah I think thats the one.
http://home.earthlink.net/~calicosmith/sd-33info.htm

-Curt

Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:41:29 +1030
From: Hendrik & Fay 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen vs Nissan SD33
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Don't know the scout is a very rare machine here.
The Nissan SD33 is push rod, glow plug six with a Nippon Denso copy of 
the Bosch in line injection pump.
Was originally designed as a light truck motor and as such is a big 
thing with a long stroke.

Hendrik

Curt Raymond wrote:
> Is that the same diesel that was in the IH Scout? 101hp?
>
> The Patrol seems pretty cool, IIRC they brought those to Canada but not 
> here...
>
> -Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Jim Cathey]

Why couldn't Mercedes have made a W124 4matic diesel wagon, and sold 
it in the USA? :(


Dunno, but if they had there's be two or three of them
living on our road!

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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen vs Nissan SD33

[Mitch Haley]

Hendrik & Fay wrote:

Don't know the scout is a very rare machine here.


The Scout Nissan diesel is often referred to as the 6-33 and 6-33T,
or SD-33 and SD-33T

Looks like an OHV to me, 3246cc.
http://home.earthlink.net/~calicosmith/sd-33info.htm

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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen vs Nissan SD33

[Hendrik & Fay]

Don't know the scout is a very rare machine here.
The Nissan SD33 is push rod, glow plug six with a Nippon Denso copy of 
the Bosch in line injection pump.
Was originally designed as a light truck motor and as such is a big 
thing with a long stroke.


Hendrik

Curt Raymond wrote:

Is that the same diesel that was in the IH Scout? 101hp?

The Patrol seems pretty cool, IIRC they brought those to Canada but not here...

-Curt
  



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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I dont know, same reason they never offered a 124 2.5 turbo wagon, or a 
later 606 diesel wagon.


tyler wrote:
Why couldn't Mercedes have made a W124 4matic diesel wagon, and sold it 
in the USA? :(


It's amazing that no company ever bothered to offer such a thing in the 
US. If such a thing existed (AWD diesel wagon) I wouldn't drive anything 
else!


Tyler


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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Curt Raymond]

Is that the same diesel that was in the IH Scout? 101hp?

The Patrol seems pretty cool, IIRC they brought those to Canada but not here...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:56:12 +1030
From: Hendrik & Fay 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen
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Loads of Diesel 4wds over here, used to have a Nissan Patrol with the 
3.3 turbo. Nice engine once over 1500rpm but being a 6 still had a bit 
of torque down low.
As a general rule Toyotas get a premium because of their reputation for 
reliability but I wouldn't bother, my nephew recently bought a S/H Hilux 
Diesel and he has been dumping a lot of cash into it to keep going.

Hendrik


  
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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Wilton Strickland]

My son's '07 MB R320CDI has AWD, doesn't it?

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "tyler" 
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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen


> It's crazy that there's virtually no market for something that combines
> the fuel efficiency and handling of a passenger car with the storage and
> traction of an SUV! I couldn't imagine a more practical car...
>
> Someday I'll probably make one myself. Perhaps it is possible to fit an
> OM603 into a 4matic W124 wagon, maybe by sourcing some specific parts
> from overseas (probably an oil pan and engine mounts?) I guess it
> wouldn't be worth it, since the W124 4matic system isn't very reliable,
> and only comes in automatic. I guess it would make more sense to design
> a homemade AWD system for an existing RWD diesel wagon. Perhaps using an
> independent front suspension, cross member, differential, and divorced
> transfer case from some small Japanese truck or SUV.
>
> We were talking about Peugeot diesels a few days ago, and it reminds me
> that I heard Peugeot did sell a few 4WD diesel wagons in the USA, but
> they're super rare.
>
> Tyler
>
> Kevin wrote:
> > They did make them, but they didn't sell them here. Americans, by and
> > large, aren't interested in such a vehicle. It's incredibly expensive to
> > get another engine option certified here, so if they don't think they
can
> > sell enough to make a profit, it doesn't come here.
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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[ernest breakfield]

Toyota '60s were also available outside the States with diesels (and are 
much more to my liking), but neither has the parts and service support 
of a G'waggie.



cheers!
e


Allan Streib wrote:

Toyota FJ40 series Land Cruisers used to be available in Diesel
(Mercedes engines, even).  Probably as rare as this G-Wagen though.

Allan

  
"ernest breakfield"  said:
  
for perspective, consider the competition; how many other diesel 4x4 
mini-SUVs are there available? how many of them have relatively simple 
reliable and maintainable motors you can still get parts and service 
for, and factory locking difs?


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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Hendrik & Fay]

Loads of Diesel 4wds over here, used to have a Nissan Patrol with the 
3.3 turbo. Nice engine once over 1500rpm but being a 6 still had a bit 
of torque down low.
As a general rule Toyotas get a premium because of their reputation for 
reliability but I wouldn't bother, my nephew recently bought a S/H Hilux 
Diesel and he has been dumping a lot of cash into it to keep going.


Hendrik

Curt Raymond wrote:

That explains a few things...

I'd love to have a diesel Cruiser. My wife and I were in Barbados once and saw 
a pickup type with a diesel, very cool.

Actually I'd like to have any cruiser but the prices I'm seeing for decent ones 
tell me the tin worm has taken a serious toll.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:45:00 -0800
From: Kevin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen
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They wouldn't be diesel FJs, since the F says what engine it has, and the
F series of engines was a six cylinder gasser. Diesel landcruisers are mostly
BJs and HJs.

Landcruisers all left the factory with toyota engines, regardless of how
similar the F is to a chevy stovebolt six, and regardless of how similar a
B or an H might be to a german diesel. Who knows what's in one you'd see now -
I've seen just about anything make its way into them, including OM617s, which 
were absolutely NOT factory.


They were never available stateside with a diesel - all of them were imported
after original sale. There are LHD ones out there, and I have one. Parts are
absolutely NOT easy to get for the engines, or for the drivetrain that is not
interchangeable with a gasser one. Most parts for mine have to come from 
overseas.


  



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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Curt Raymond]

That explains a few things...

I'd love to have a diesel Cruiser. My wife and I were in Barbados once and saw 
a pickup type with a diesel, very cool.

Actually I'd like to have any cruiser but the prices I'm seeing for decent ones 
tell me the tin worm has taken a serious toll.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:45:00 -0800
From: Kevin 
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They wouldn't be diesel FJs, since the F says what engine it has, and the
F series of engines was a six cylinder gasser. Diesel landcruisers are mostly
BJs and HJs.

Landcruisers all left the factory with toyota engines, regardless of how
similar the F is to a chevy stovebolt six, and regardless of how similar a
B or an H might be to a german diesel. Who knows what's in one you'd see now -
I've seen just about anything make its way into them, including OM617s, which 
were absolutely NOT factory.

They were never available stateside with a diesel - all of them were imported
after original sale. There are LHD ones out there, and I have one. Parts are
absolutely NOT easy to get for the engines, or for the drivetrain that is not
interchangeable with a gasser one. Most parts for mine have to come from 
overseas.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:53:22AM -0800, Curt Raymond wrote:
> Diesel FJs are even less common here than G-wagens (I'd have either actually) 
> and the ones I've seen are all right drive.
> 
> In New England most FJs are piles of rust.
> 
> -Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[tyler]

It's crazy that there's virtually no market for something that combines 
the fuel efficiency and handling of a passenger car with the storage and 
traction of an SUV! I couldn't imagine a more practical car...


Someday I'll probably make one myself. Perhaps it is possible to fit an 
OM603 into a 4matic W124 wagon, maybe by sourcing some specific parts 
from overseas (probably an oil pan and engine mounts?) I guess it 
wouldn't be worth it, since the W124 4matic system isn't very reliable, 
and only comes in automatic. I guess it would make more sense to design 
a homemade AWD system for an existing RWD diesel wagon. Perhaps using an 
independent front suspension, cross member, differential, and divorced 
transfer case from some small Japanese truck or SUV.


We were talking about Peugeot diesels a few days ago, and it reminds me 
that I heard Peugeot did sell a few 4WD diesel wagons in the USA, but 
they're super rare.


Tyler

Kevin wrote:

They did make them, but they didn't sell them here. Americans, by and
large, aren't interested in such a vehicle. It's incredibly expensive to 
get another engine option certified here, so if they don't think they can

sell enough to make a profit, it doesn't come here.


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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Allan Streib]

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:53:38 -0800, "tyler"  said:

> Why couldn't Mercedes have made a W124 4matic diesel wagon, and sold it 
> in the USA? :(
> 
> It's amazing that no company ever bothered to offer such a thing in the 
> US. If such a thing existed (AWD diesel wagon) I wouldn't drive anything 
> else!

Subaru now has their boxer diesel, a diesel Outback would certainly seem
to be possible, though AFAIK they are not bringing that engine stateside
in ANY chassis.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Kevin]

They did make them, but they didn't sell them here. Americans, by and
large, aren't interested in such a vehicle. It's incredibly expensive to 
get another engine option certified here, so if they don't think they can
sell enough to make a profit, it doesn't come here.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 01:53:38PM -0800, tyler wrote:
> Why couldn't Mercedes have made a W124 4matic diesel wagon, and sold it 
> in the USA? :(
> 
> It's amazing that no company ever bothered to offer such a thing in the 
> US. If such a thing existed (AWD diesel wagon) I wouldn't drive anything 
> else!

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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[tyler]

Why couldn't Mercedes have made a W124 4matic diesel wagon, and sold it 
in the USA? :(


It's amazing that no company ever bothered to offer such a thing in the 
US. If such a thing existed (AWD diesel wagon) I wouldn't drive anything 
else!


Tyler

Kevin wrote:

They wouldn't be diesel FJs, since the F says what engine it has, and the
F series of engines was a six cylinder gasser. Diesel landcruisers are mostly
BJs and HJs.

Landcruisers all left the factory with toyota engines, regardless of how
similar the F is to a chevy stovebolt six, and regardless of how similar a
B or an H might be to a german diesel. Who knows what's in one you'd see now -
I've seen just about anything make its way into them, including OM617s, which 
were absolutely NOT factory.


They were never available stateside with a diesel - all of them were imported
after original sale. There are LHD ones out there, and I have one. Parts are
absolutely NOT easy to get for the engines, or for the drivetrain that is not
interchangeable with a gasser one. Most parts for mine have to come from 
overseas.
  


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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Kevin]

They wouldn't be diesel FJs, since the F says what engine it has, and the
F series of engines was a six cylinder gasser. Diesel landcruisers are mostly
BJs and HJs.

Landcruisers all left the factory with toyota engines, regardless of how
similar the F is to a chevy stovebolt six, and regardless of how similar a
B or an H might be to a german diesel. Who knows what's in one you'd see now -
I've seen just about anything make its way into them, including OM617s, which 
were absolutely NOT factory.

They were never available stateside with a diesel - all of them were imported
after original sale. There are LHD ones out there, and I have one. Parts are
absolutely NOT easy to get for the engines, or for the drivetrain that is not
interchangeable with a gasser one. Most parts for mine have to come from 
overseas.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:53:22AM -0800, Curt Raymond wrote:
> Diesel FJs are even less common here than G-wagens (I'd have either actually) 
> and the ones I've seen are all right drive.
> 
> In New England most FJs are piles of rust.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:02:07 -0500
> From: "Allan Streib" 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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> 
> "ernest breakfield"  said:
> 
> > for perspective, consider the competition; how many other diesel 4x4 
> > mini-SUVs are there available? how many of them have relatively simple 
> > reliable and maintainable motors you can still get parts and service 
> > for, and factory locking difs?
> > 
> 
> Toyota FJ40 series Land Cruisers used to be available in Diesel
> (Mercedes engines, even).? Probably as rare as this G-Wagen though.

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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Curt Raymond]

Diesel FJs are even less common here than G-wagens (I'd have either actually) 
and the ones I've seen are all right drive.

In New England most FJs are piles of rust.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:02:07 -0500
From: "Allan Streib" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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"ernest breakfield"  said:

> for perspective, consider the competition; how many other diesel 4x4 
> mini-SUVs are there available? how many of them have relatively simple 
> reliable and maintainable motors you can still get parts and service 
> for, and factory locking difs?
> 

Toyota FJ40 series Land Cruisers used to be available in Diesel
(Mercedes engines, even).  Probably as rare as this G-Wagen though.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Michael LaFleur]

Someone here had a mid-90's diesel Land Rover. I haven't seen it since last 
sumer though. It looked pretty neat. I looked for other example or references 
online but couldn't find any,

Mike


From: Allan Streib 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:02:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

"ernest breakfield"  said:

> for perspective, consider the competition; how many other diesel 4x4 
> mini-SUVs are there available? how many of them have relatively simple 
> reliable and maintainable motors you can still get parts and service 
> for, and factory locking difs?
> 

Toyota FJ40 series Land Cruisers used to be available in Diesel
(Mercedes engines, even).  Probably as rare as this G-Wagen though.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Allan Streib]

"ernest breakfield"  said:

> for perspective, consider the competition; how many other diesel 4x4 
> mini-SUVs are there available? how many of them have relatively simple 
> reliable and maintainable motors you can still get parts and service 
> for, and factory locking difs?
> 

Toyota FJ40 series Land Cruisers used to be available in Diesel
(Mercedes engines, even).  Probably as rare as this G-Wagen though.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[ernest breakfield]

for perspective, consider the competition; how many other diesel 4x4 
mini-SUVs are there available? how many of them have relatively simple 
reliable and maintainable motors you can still get parts and service 
for, and factory locking difs?


   i've been watching for years for a clean 4 door automatic of one of 
these, and that's about the low end of what good ones go for.



cheers!
e


Allan Streib wrote:

$9,500 for a 26 year old vehicle, no mileage listed, that obviously is
not a "show" or restored example?

That seems high to me, no matter how "rare" it is.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Curt Raymond]

Droo!
All the features I want in a G-wagen for just about what I paid for my Ranger. 
Oh if only I'd seen this first.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:24:06 -0500
From: TimothyPilgrim 
Subject: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen
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Amazing condition. Wonder what the mileage is. Price is equal to $9500 US.

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1982-Mercedes-Benz-German-G-Wagen-300GD-Diesel-W0QQAdIdZ100859992

Tim
1982 300TD
2000 Golf TDI
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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[Allan Streib]

$9,500 for a 26 year old vehicle, no mileage listed, that obviously is
not a "show" or restored example?

That seems high to me, no matter how "rare" it is.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[E M]

I've seen a few older ones up for sale around the area.

Ed
300E

2009/1/21 TimothyPilgrim 

> Amazing condition. Wonder what the mileage is. Price is equal to $9500 US.
>
>
> http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1982-Mercedes-Benz-German-G-Wagen-300GD-Diesel-W0QQAdIdZ100859992
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[MBZ] F/S Canuck Diesel G-Wagen

[TimothyPilgrim]

Amazing condition. Wonder what the mileage is. Price is equal to $9500 US.

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1982-Mercedes-Benz-German-G-Wagen-300GD-Diesel-W0QQAdIdZ100859992

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