Re: [MBZ] Failed Emissions Inspection

2007-09-19 Thread Robb Taglieri
having a 93 E300 2.8 that just failed emissions in NJ.  Is there any way to
check a catalytic converter to see if it is working or not?  I am about to
check for vacume leaks and change the 02 sensor.  While I am at it is there
any preliminary checks I can do?

Robb
NJ
93 300E,85 380SL,81 300D89 300SEL
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Re: [MBZ] Failed Emissions Inspection

2007-09-19 Thread Hendrik
There is no self diagnostic function on the catalytic converter, easy 
thing is to plug your car into a computer and see what the go is.
You can spend 's on replacing stuff, only to find that a wire was 
loose somewhere. The series 124's have quite a sophisticated self 
diagnostic system and overall it is more cost effective to pay a 
equipped Merc workshop to analyze your car, rather than spending money 
on replacing serviceable parts.
Perhaps Rusty could let you know how much a cat for your car is.
Generally if everything else checks out fine, then the catalytic 
converter is thought to be the trouble of high emissions.
I take it you are running the correct grade of fuel for your car?

Robb Taglieri wrote:
 having a 93 E300 2.8 that just failed emissions in NJ.  Is there any way to
 check a catalytic converter to see if it is working or not?  I am about to
 check for vacume leaks and change the 02 sensor.  While I am at it is there
 any preliminary checks I can do?

 Robb
 NJ
 93 300E,85 380SL,81 300D89 300SEL
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Re: [MBZ] Failed Emissions Inspection

2007-09-17 Thread John Freer
Robb,
the air pump only operates for a short time when the engine is cold so
that shouldn't be an issue if your MB is really warmed up at the time
of the test. It's always a good idea to be sure the engine is very
warm for a emissions test.
John

On 9/17/07, Robb Taglieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a 1993 300E 2.8 with about 122,000 miles on it.  It recently went for
 NJ emissions testing and failed.  My HC tested at 150 instead of 100.  I am
 told that the cause of this is not the normal tune up but rather that
 something is defective.  the car had a tune up in the last 12,000 miles and
 I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions.  Also want to mention that
 for the first 30 seconds or so I get a tistt, tistt sound from the air
 pump.  After 20 -30 seconds it just stops making the noise.   It is not a
 gradual fade but an instant turn off of the noise.  I'm not sure if one is
 related to the other.  Robb T. South Jersey
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[MBZ] Failed Emissions Inspection

2007-09-17 Thread Robb Taglieri
I have a 1993 300E 2.8 with about 122,000 miles on it.  It recently went for
NJ emissions testing and failed.  My HC tested at 150 instead of 100.  I am
told that the cause of this is not the normal tune up but rather that
something is defective.  the car had a tune up in the last 12,000 miles and
I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions.  Also want to mention that
for the first 30 seconds or so I get a tistt, tistt sound from the air
pump.  After 20 -30 seconds it just stops making the noise.   It is not a
gradual fade but an instant turn off of the noise.  I'm not sure if one is
related to the other.  Robb T. South Jersey
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Re: [MBZ] Failed Emissions Inspection

2007-09-17 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 9/17/07, Robb Taglieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a 1993 300E 2.8 with about 122,000 miles on it.  It recently went for
 NJ emissions testing and failed.  My HC tested at 150 instead of 100.  I am
 told that the cause of this is not the normal tune up but rather that
 something is defective.  the car had a tune up in the last 12,000 miles and
 I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions.

High HC means unburned fuel---the engine is running too rich.  A lot
of things can cause this, but the first to check for is a vacuum
leak---could be as simple as a disconnected line somewhere.  (Low
vacuum makes the injection computer think you're stomping on the
accelerator all the time, so it dumps more gas in than necessary.)

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

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Re: [MBZ] Failed Emissions Inspection/ideas

2007-09-17 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 9/17/2007 8:36:03 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have a  1993 300E 2.8 with about 122,000 miles on it.  It recently went for
NJ  emissions testing and failed.  My HC tested at 150 instead of 100.   I am
told that the cause of this is not the normal tune up but rather  that
something is defective.  the car had a tune up in the last 12,000  miles and
I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions.  Also want to  mention that
for the first 30 seconds or so I get a tistt, tistt sound  from the air
pump.  After 20 -30 seconds it just stops making the  noise.   It is not a
gradual fade but an instant turn off of the  noise.  I'm not sure if one is
related to the other.  Robb T.  South Jersey



Robb,
 
Make sure the engine is coming up to design temperature.  A bad  thermostat, 
or bad engine temp sensor would leave the engine running rich if it  thinks it 
is still warming up.  On cold (rare) days at the smog place,  I will request 
they remove the roll around fan as it can knock temperatures  down some.
 
I would consider changing out the O2 sensor, which if original, is probably  
due.  If you have a previous history of the car running very rich, the  
catalytic converter could be shot too.  
 
Never go to an emissions test with a full tank of gas.  The purge  cannister 
could be venting raw gas into the engine.
 
Just my .02  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles 
98 ML 320, 151 K  miles




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