Re: [MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT
> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012, at 08:02 PM, Rolf wrote: > > Surely linux still has a sparc build? > Allan Streib wrote: > > Debian seems to, at least, and if not there are the BSDs, > OpenBSD, NetBSD probably being the ones I'd look at, FreeBSD > is pretty heavily x86 oriented I think. The current stable release is available for a smaller set of processors than it used to be. The current list: 32-bit PC (i386) 64-bit PC (amd64) EABI ARM PowerPC SPARC Intel Itanium IA-64 MIPS (little endian) IBM S/390 MIPS (big endian) It is also (mostly) translated into more than two dozen languages. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT
Debian seems to, at least, and if not there are the BSDs, OpenBSD, NetBSD probably being the ones I'd look at, FreeBSD is pretty heavily x86 oriented I think. Allan On Mon, Oct 22, 2012, at 08:02 PM, Rolf wrote: > Surely linux still has a sparc build? > > Sent via string from my tin can. > > Allan Streib wrote: > > >That thing will probably suck a LOT of power. And according to > >Wikipedia the V890 had UltraSPARC processors, and it's also EOL-ed so no > >support or parts other than what you can find on the secondhand market. > > > >I don't think any VMWare stuff will run on Sparc. But not certain. > > > >I think you be better off with a more power-efficient, newer Intel or > >AMD-based host. > > > >Allan > > > > > >Dan Penoff writes: > > > >> I have recently acquired a Sunfire V890 server with all the fixin's from > >> our library circulation system. > >> > >> I know nothing about Sun systems, other than this one was running a mother > >> of an Oracle database (all of the library materials for the school > >> district.) > >> > >> I am wondering if there is a way I could retask it to be a host in one of > >> our VM clusters, and/or if it's capable of running esxi v5.0 or lower. > >> > >> If there are any IT geeks out there that might know what I can do with > >> this beast, I would love to hear your suggestions. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Dan > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >-- > >Allan Streib > > > >___ > >http://www.okiebenz.com > >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT
Surely linux still has a sparc build? Sent via string from my tin can. Allan Streib wrote: >That thing will probably suck a LOT of power. And according to >Wikipedia the V890 had UltraSPARC processors, and it's also EOL-ed so no >support or parts other than what you can find on the secondhand market. > >I don't think any VMWare stuff will run on Sparc. But not certain. > >I think you be better off with a more power-efficient, newer Intel or >AMD-based host. > >Allan > > >Dan Penoff writes: > >> I have recently acquired a Sunfire V890 server with all the fixin's from our >> library circulation system. >> >> I know nothing about Sun systems, other than this one was running a mother >> of an Oracle database (all of the library materials for the school district.) >> >> I am wondering if there is a way I could retask it to be a host in one of >> our VM clusters, and/or if it's capable of running esxi v5.0 or lower. >> >> If there are any IT geeks out there that might know what I can do with this >> beast, I would love to hear your suggestions. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dan >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >-- >Allan Streib > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > That thing will probably suck a LOT of power. And according to Dan doesn't pay for power. :) Recollection is that Oracle requires the same amount of swap space as the amount of RAM, so once you reconfigure the system you might have a lot of drive space. > Wikipedia the V890 had UltraSPARC processors, and it's also EOL-ed so no > support or parts other than what you can find on the secondhand market. Good for a proof-of-concept project server; web, wiki, caching DNS, proxy, etc. Also backup applications like NetBackup or Networker can use it as a master server, or a media server if you have tape drivers. Intel Sun boxes describe themselves as x86, BTW; uname -a will tell you everything. They also had 'x' in the name, so this probably isn't one. > I don't think any VMWare stuff will run on Sparc. But not certain. Correct. You need processor emulation like qemu. At that point you will save money buying a new Intel box if you subtract the number of hairs you lose, even with free power. > I think you be better off with a more power-efficient, newer Intel or > AMD-based host. I've found it is easier to repurpose a system than it is to try to justify a new server for a novel project. Once the project is established it is easier to get new equipment, of course. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT
That thing will probably suck a LOT of power. And according to Wikipedia the V890 had UltraSPARC processors, and it's also EOL-ed so no support or parts other than what you can find on the secondhand market. I don't think any VMWare stuff will run on Sparc. But not certain. I think you be better off with a more power-efficient, newer Intel or AMD-based host. Allan Dan Penoff writes: > I have recently acquired a Sunfire V890 server with all the fixin's from our > library circulation system. > > I know nothing about Sun systems, other than this one was running a mother of > an Oracle database (all of the library materials for the school district.) > > I am wondering if there is a way I could retask it to be a host in one of our > VM clusters, and/or if it's capable of running esxi v5.0 or lower. > > If there are any IT geeks out there that might know what I can do with this > beast, I would love to hear your suggestions. > > Thanks, > > Dan > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT
Like I said, I'll check it in the morning and report back. I know there were some in the line that had a choice of Intel or AMD, but I think they had "x"s in their model numbers. Dan On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: > The spec sheet I have shows UltraSPARC CPU's. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT
The spec sheet I have shows UltraSPARC CPU's. On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > This particular model was available with Intel or AMD processors, I > believe. Not sure which it has - I'll have to check tomorrow and report > back. > > Dan > > > On Oct 21, 2012, at 6:40 PM, John Reames wrote: > > > Iirc they are sparc not intel. > > > > (no. VMware for you!) > > > > -- > > John W Reames > > jream...@verizon.net > > Home: +14106646986 > > Mobile: +14437915905 > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT
This particular model was available with Intel or AMD processors, I believe. Not sure which it has - I'll have to check tomorrow and report back. Dan On Oct 21, 2012, at 6:40 PM, John Reames wrote: > Iirc they are sparc not intel. > > (no. VMware for you!) > > -- > John W Reames > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT
Iirc they are sparc not intel. (no. VMware for you!) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Oct 21, 2012, at 17:24, Dan Penoff wrote: > I have recently acquired a Sunfire V890 server with all the fixin's from our > library circulation system. > > I know nothing about Sun systems, other than this one was running a mother of > an Oracle database (all of the library materials for the school district.) > > I am wondering if there is a way I could retask it to be a host in one of our > VM clusters, and/or if it's capable of running esxi v5.0 or lower. > > If there are any IT geeks out there that might know what I can do with this > beast, I would love to hear your suggestions. > > Thanks, > > Dan > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT
Use it as a space heater. On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Yes, the license(s) go with the box. I have everything that came with it > from the original install. It's a beast, running 8 processors and 64GB of > RAM, I believe. It was completely decked out when purchased new. We just > built a VM box that the circulation system runs on now (not sure who's > software they're using, but the guest OS is Windows 2008 Server) so they > have no need for this one any more. > > I'm not sure how much drive space it has, but that's not an issue as I > could boot off one of the HBAs from one of our two IBM XIV storage systems. > > I would like to find something to do with it, as otherwise it will get > surplused and sold for pennies on the dollar. I know it's beyond EOL for > Sun, but it's certainly powerful enough to do other stuff, I would think... > > Dan > > > On Oct 21, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > > > Does it have the OS? I guess if it was still running it must. Does it > have the install disks or whatever? > > > > Back in Enron Broadband days I was told to unload all our network > infrastructure boxes that were sitting in a warehouse (yep, you read that > right, sell the network) -- Cisco network devices and Sun servers. Our > India affiliate said they would buy the Cisco stuff, but we had a little > problem in that we could not convey OS licenses. Their response was, "Not > to worry." I did worry, and left before completing that task. There was a > considerable issue with Sun OSs too, same deal. "Don't worry!" > > > > --R > > > > On 10/21/12 5:24 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > >> I have recently acquired a Sunfire V890 server with all the fixin's > from our library circulation system. > >> > >> I know nothing about Sun systems, other than this one was running a > mother of an Oracle database (all of the library materials for the school > district.) > >> > >> I am wondering if there is a way I could retask it to be a host in one > of our VM clusters, and/or if it's capable of running esxi v5.0 or lower. > >> > >> If there are any IT geeks out there that might know what I can do with > this beast, I would love to hear your suggestions. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Dan > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT
Yes, the license(s) go with the box. I have everything that came with it from the original install. It's a beast, running 8 processors and 64GB of RAM, I believe. It was completely decked out when purchased new. We just built a VM box that the circulation system runs on now (not sure who's software they're using, but the guest OS is Windows 2008 Server) so they have no need for this one any more. I'm not sure how much drive space it has, but that's not an issue as I could boot off one of the HBAs from one of our two IBM XIV storage systems. I would like to find something to do with it, as otherwise it will get surplused and sold for pennies on the dollar. I know it's beyond EOL for Sun, but it's certainly powerful enough to do other stuff, I would think... Dan On Oct 21, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > Does it have the OS? I guess if it was still running it must. Does it have > the install disks or whatever? > > Back in Enron Broadband days I was told to unload all our network > infrastructure boxes that were sitting in a warehouse (yep, you read that > right, sell the network) -- Cisco network devices and Sun servers. Our > India affiliate said they would buy the Cisco stuff, but we had a little > problem in that we could not convey OS licenses. Their response was, "Not to > worry." I did worry, and left before completing that task. There was a > considerable issue with Sun OSs too, same deal. "Don't worry!" > > --R > > On 10/21/12 5:24 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: >> I have recently acquired a Sunfire V890 server with all the fixin's from our >> library circulation system. >> >> I know nothing about Sun systems, other than this one was running a mother >> of an Oracle database (all of the library materials for the school district.) >> >> I am wondering if there is a way I could retask it to be a host in one of >> our VM clusters, and/or if it's capable of running esxi v5.0 or lower. >> >> If there are any IT geeks out there that might know what I can do with this >> beast, I would love to hear your suggestions. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dan >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT
Does it have the OS? I guess if it was still running it must. Does it have the install disks or whatever? Back in Enron Broadband days I was told to unload all our network infrastructure boxes that were sitting in a warehouse (yep, you read that right, sell the network) -- Cisco network devices and Sun servers. Our India affiliate said they would buy the Cisco stuff, but we had a little problem in that we could not convey OS licenses. Their response was, "Not to worry." I did worry, and left before completing that task. There was a considerable issue with Sun OSs too, same deal. "Don't worry!" --R On 10/21/12 5:24 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I have recently acquired a Sunfire V890 server with all the fixin's from our library circulation system. I know nothing about Sun systems, other than this one was running a mother of an Oracle database (all of the library materials for the school district.) I am wondering if there is a way I could retask it to be a host in one of our VM clusters, and/or if it's capable of running esxi v5.0 or lower. If there are any IT geeks out there that might know what I can do with this beast, I would love to hear your suggestions. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT
I have recently acquired a Sunfire V890 server with all the fixin's from our library circulation system. I know nothing about Sun systems, other than this one was running a mother of an Oracle database (all of the library materials for the school district.) I am wondering if there is a way I could retask it to be a host in one of our VM clusters, and/or if it's capable of running esxi v5.0 or lower. If there are any IT geeks out there that might know what I can do with this beast, I would love to hear your suggestions. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
