Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
If the fittings really won't budge, your worse case bet is to use a dremel or similar and cut-off wheels to split the nut. If you are careful, you can avoid nicking the threads on the oil cooler. I ended up having to split the nut in two places on an aluminum cooler in a 99. Cut the line off flush with the nut, then you can fully split the nut at the back; make a couple of passes so you can get a screwdriver in there to help wedge it open, then slit along the sides, cutting just deep enough to see the beginnings of the threads. The rest will break easily once you wedge open the split. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 13, 2013, at 22:46, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes: 3.) If time permits, apply a generous amount of penetrating fluid to the fittings at the oil cooler. There are dissimilar metals and tend to gall when removed, sometimes badly enough that the oil cooler requires replacement. I used the acetone and ATF recipe for this, and it worked well when I replaced the lines on my W123. Also be sure you use a wrench on both sides of the fitting, so you don't twist the fitting out of the cooler. Allan -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
Thanks Max! it did not appear in my Mercedes folder so I need to look for it... LarryT 91 300D On 4/14/2013 3:37 PM, Max Dillon wrote: I see your test email... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
Does one dare use heat? Randy On 15/04/2013 5:30 AM, John Reames wrote: If the fittings really won't budge, your worse case bet is to use a dremel or similar and cut-off wheels to split the nut. If you are careful, you can avoid nicking the threads on the oil cooler. I ended up having to split the nut in two places on an aluminum cooler in a 99. Cut the line off flush with the nut, then you can fully split the nut at the back; make a couple of passes so you can get a screwdriver in there to help wedge it open, then slit along the sides, cutting just deep enough to see the beginnings of the threads. The rest will break easily once you wedge open the split. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 13, 2013, at 22:46, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes: 3.) If time permits, apply a generous amount of penetrating fluid to the fittings at the oil cooler. There are dissimilar metals and tend to gall when removed, sometimes badly enough that the oil cooler requires replacement. I used the acetone and ATF recipe for this, and it worked well when I replaced the lines on my W123. Also be sure you use a wrench on both sides of the fitting, so you don't twist the fitting out of the cooler. Allan -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
Probably not, as you have a fitting that is brazed to the oil cooler. Compromise the joint between the fitting and oil cooler and you're no better off than if you goober up the fitting. Dan On Apr 15, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Does one dare use heat? Randy On 15/04/2013 5:30 AM, John Reames wrote: If the fittings really won't budge, your worse case bet is to use a dremel or similar and cut-off wheels to split the nut. If you are careful, you can avoid nicking the threads on the oil cooler. I ended up having to split the nut in two places on an aluminum cooler in a 99. Cut the line off flush with the nut, then you can fully split the nut at the back; make a couple of passes so you can get a screwdriver in there to help wedge it open, then slit along the sides, cutting just deep enough to see the beginnings of the threads. The rest will break easily once you wedge open the split. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 13, 2013, at 22:46, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes: 3.) If time permits, apply a generous amount of penetrating fluid to the fittings at the oil cooler. There are dissimilar metals and tend to gall when removed, sometimes badly enough that the oil cooler requires replacement. I used the acetone and ATF recipe for this, and it worked well when I replaced the lines on my W123. Also be sure you use a wrench on both sides of the fitting, so you don't twist the fitting out of the cooler. Allan -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
Per Rusty's site I need the older, NLA version of the cooler line. Am I able to use the newer version and re-route it, or do I just have to hope I don't break these fittings? Thanks, Tim On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Probably not, as you have a fitting that is brazed to the oil cooler. Compromise the joint between the fitting and oil cooler and you're no better off than if you goober up the fitting. Dan On Apr 15, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Does one dare use heat? Randy On 15/04/2013 5:30 AM, John Reames wrote: If the fittings really won't budge, your worse case bet is to use a dremel or similar and cut-off wheels to split the nut. If you are careful, you can avoid nicking the threads on the oil cooler. I ended up having to split the nut in two places on an aluminum cooler in a 99. Cut the line off flush with the nut, then you can fully split the nut at the back; make a couple of passes so you can get a screwdriver in there to help wedge it open, then slit along the sides, cutting just deep enough to see the beginnings of the threads. The rest will break easily once you wedge open the split. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 13, 2013, at 22:46, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes: 3.) If time permits, apply a generous amount of penetrating fluid to the fittings at the oil cooler. There are dissimilar metals and tend to gall when removed, sometimes badly enough that the oil cooler requires replacement. I used the acetone and ATF recipe for this, and it worked well when I replaced the lines on my W123. Also be sure you use a wrench on both sides of the fitting, so you don't twist the fitting out of the cooler. Allan -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
I used old dino ATF and it mixed okay. Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com I tried mixing up the recipe using Mobil 1 ATF - it would not mix at all with the acetone. Does any other ATF mix with acetone? On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I used the acetone and ATF recipe for this, and it worked well when I replaced the lines on my W123. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
I used M1 ATF actually, because it's what I had on hand. I doubt it matters much for this use. It didn't really mix but sort of went into suspension like oil/vinegar salad dressing. Eventually the ATF would settle out again, but as the acteone evaporates pretty quickly anyway I don't try to store it; I just make a small batch whenever I need it. So I would just stir it up and use an eyedropper to saturate the fitting. I'm guessing that how it works is that the capillary action drawing the acetone into the threads pulls some ATF along for the ride. Allan OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: I tried mixing up the recipe using Mobil 1 ATF - it would not mix at all with the acetone. Does any other ATF mix with acetone? On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I used the acetone and ATF recipe for this, and it worked well when I replaced the lines on my W123. Allan -- -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
Testing - sent a couple of posts and they never appeared if this gets through please post on the list that my email got through... Thanks! LarryT 91 300D On 4/14/2013 1:15 PM, Allan Streib wrote: I used M1 ATF actually, because it's what I had on hand. I doubt it matters much for this use. It didn't really mix but sort of went into suspension like oil/vinegar salad dressing. Eventually the ATF would settle out again, but as the acteone evaporates pretty quickly anyway I don't try to store it; I just make a small batch whenever I need it. So I would just stir it up and use an eyedropper to saturate the fitting. I'm guessing that how it works is that the capillary action drawing the acetone into the threads pulls some ATF along for the ride. Allan OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: I tried mixing up the recipe using Mobil 1 ATF - it would not mix at all with the acetone. Does any other ATF mix with acetone? On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I used the acetone and ATF recipe for this, and it worked well when I replaced the lines on my W123. Allan -- -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 14:22:34 -0400 LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Testing - sent a couple of posts and they never appeared if this gets through please post on the list that my email got through... The traditional response: you failed. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
I see your test email... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Testing - sent a couple of posts and they never appeared if this gets through please post on the list that my email got through... Thanks! LarryT 91 300D On 4/14/2013 1:15 PM, Allan Streib wrote: I used M1 ATF actually, because it's what I had on hand. I doubt it matters much for this use. It didn't really mix but sort of went into suspension like oil/vinegar salad dressing. Eventually the ATF would settle out again, but as the acteone evaporates pretty quickly anyway I don't try to store it; I just make a small batch whenever I need it. So I would just stir it up and use an eyedropper to saturate the fitting. I'm guessing that how it works is that the capillary action drawing the acetone into the threads pulls some ATF along for the ride. Allan OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: I tried mixing up the recipe using Mobil 1 ATF - it would not mix at all with the acetone. Does any other ATF mix with acetone? On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I used the acetone and ATF recipe for this, and it worked well when I replaced the lines on my W123. Allan -- -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
As usual, you all are right on the money. Lower oil cooler hose has a leak in one of the seams. Even after sitting and not running the engine, when I wiped down the hoses there is obvious oil weeping along that seam. Now to source new and be on my way. Looks easy to do, one nut on the filter and one on the oil radiator... But since I couldn't get either to budge I will try to add some anti sieze as someone suggested. I assume wisdom says do both at the same time? Thanks all! Tim On Apr 12, 2013 9:22 PM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: Wrong account again, sorry. 77 300D. I need to register the other account so I don't get dropped when sending from my phone, it looks like it sent in my threads but I guess it is sitting in Kaleb's queue. :( Thanks, Tim -- Forwarded message -- From: Tim Crone t...@crone.us Date: Apr 12, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Right, 77 300D. Good call, and that would be in the right spot to have made that mess. I hope you are right! Thanks, Tim On Apr 12, 2013 12:18 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Which car? Assuming a diesel made before 1996, a common failure are the hoses to/from the oil cooler, check those first. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: I came off the interstate (a few miles but it was hot) and noticed that I was idling at 15. That's a bit low but not crazy low. Oil is ~500 miles. I started driving again - no driving issue, but pressure gauge was jumping from 15-30. I pulled into a gas station, opened hood - the entire driver side of the engine was covered in oil. Massive loss. I saw nothing terribly obvious, but I was wearing work clothes and there was no way to do any good diagnosis. Got it towed home (thanks AAA!) and how it's been in the driveway since Tuesday. It is still dripping oil, but I can't tell if it's from the mess in the compartment settling or from the breech. I'm going to have to get into it this weekend. Any suggestions where to start, if I don't see anything obvious? Should I just dump in oil and see if it leaks out the head, or is there a better way? Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
Yes, change both hoses. Unfortunately, too often the oil cooler threads are damaged when the hoses are removed, so be as careful as you can, but don't be surprised if you need to replace the oil cooler. Research the repair, there are tips and tricks to maximize the odds of success. Very glad to hear the engine survived! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: As usual, you all are right on the money. Lower oil cooler hose has a leak in one of the seams. Even after sitting and not running the engine, when I wiped down the hoses there is obvious oil weeping along that seam. Now to source new and be on my way. Looks easy to do, one nut on the filter and one on the oil radiator... But since I couldn't get either to budge I will try to add some anti sieze as someone suggested. I assume wisdom says do both at the same time? Thanks all! Tim On Apr 12, 2013 9:22 PM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: Wrong account again, sorry. 77 300D. I need to register the other account so I don't get dropped when sending from my phone, it looks like it sent in my threads but I guess it is sitting in Kaleb's queue. :( Thanks, Tim -- Forwarded message -- From: Tim Crone t...@crone.us Date: Apr 12, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Right, 77 300D. Good call, and that would be in the right spot to have made that mess. I hope you are right! Thanks, Tim On Apr 12, 2013 12:18 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Which car? Assuming a diesel made before 1996, a common failure are the hoses to/from the oil cooler, check those first. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: I came off the interstate (a few miles but it was hot) and noticed that I was idling at 15. That's a bit low but not crazy low. Oil is ~500 miles. I started driving again - no driving issue, but pressure gauge was jumping from 15-30. I pulled into a gas station, opened hood - the entire driver side of the engine was covered in oil. Massive loss. I saw nothing terribly obvious, but I was wearing work clothes and there was no way to do any good diagnosis. Got it towed home (thanks AAA!) and how it's been in the driveway since Tuesday. It is still dripping oil, but I can't tell if it's from the mess in the compartment settling or from the breech. I'm going to have to get into it this weekend. Any suggestions where to start, if I don't see anything obvious? Should I just dump in oil and see if it leaks out the head, or is there a better way? Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
Now to source new and be on my way. Looks easy to do, one nut on the filter and one on the oil radiator... But since I couldn't get either to budge I will try to add some anti sieze as someone suggested. I assume wisdom says do both at the same time? Yes, do both. I didn't have much problem doing mine, because I did the motor mounts at the same time. The higher you get the engine for clearance, the better. Soak the fittings with Kroil/PB Blaster several times a day, for several days and they should be easier to remove. Rick Knoble Sent from My Samsung tabletTim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
1.) Do both. You're there, the other one is just as old and will fail as well, etc. 2.) Consider doing the motor mounts while you're in there, as the driver's side will had ego come off or at least be disconnected to get the hoses out. 3.) If time permits, apply a generous amount of penetrating fluid to the fittings at the oil cooler. There are dissimilar metals and tend to gall when removed, sometimes badly enough that the oil cooler requires replacement. Plan on the better part of a day and getting really, really dirty. This is not a complex task, but it does require a lot of brute force sort of effort. Dan On Apr 13, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Tim Crone wrote: As usual, you all are right on the money. Lower oil cooler hose has a leak in one of the seams. Even after sitting and not running the engine, when I wiped down the hoses there is obvious oil weeping along that seam. Now to source new and be on my way. Looks easy to do, one nut on the filter and one on the oil radiator... But since I couldn't get either to budge I will try to add some anti sieze as someone suggested. I assume wisdom says do both at the same time? Thanks all! Tim On Apr 12, 2013 9:22 PM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: Wrong account again, sorry. 77 300D. I need to register the other account so I don't get dropped when sending from my phone, it looks like it sent in my threads but I guess it is sitting in Kaleb's queue. :( Thanks, Tim -- Forwarded message -- From: Tim Crone t...@crone.us Date: Apr 12, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Right, 77 300D. Good call, and that would be in the right spot to have made that mess. I hope you are right! Thanks, Tim On Apr 12, 2013 12:18 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Which car? Assuming a diesel made before 1996, a common failure are the hoses to/from the oil cooler, check those first. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: I came off the interstate (a few miles but it was hot) and noticed that I was idling at 15. That's a bit low but not crazy low. Oil is ~500 miles. I started driving again - no driving issue, but pressure gauge was jumping from 15-30. I pulled into a gas station, opened hood - the entire driver side of the engine was covered in oil. Massive loss. I saw nothing terribly obvious, but I was wearing work clothes and there was no way to do any good diagnosis. Got it towed home (thanks AAA!) and how it's been in the driveway since Tuesday. It is still dripping oil, but I can't tell if it's from the mess in the compartment settling or from the breech. I'm going to have to get into it this weekend. Any suggestions where to start, if I don't see anything obvious? Should I just dump in oil and see if it leaks out the head, or is there a better way? Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
Tim Crone wrote: Now to source new and be on my way. Looks easy to do, one nut on the filter and one on the oil radiator... But since I couldn't get either to budge I will try to add some anti sieze as someone suggested. I assume you know to put a wrench on the hose nut and another wrench on the fitting at the cooler, and squeeze the wrenches together to avoid putting torque on the fixed fitting and twisting it out of the cooler housing? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes: 3.) If time permits, apply a generous amount of penetrating fluid to the fittings at the oil cooler. There are dissimilar metals and tend to gall when removed, sometimes badly enough that the oil cooler requires replacement. I used the acetone and ATF recipe for this, and it worked well when I replaced the lines on my W123. Also be sure you use a wrench on both sides of the fitting, so you don't twist the fitting out of the cooler. Allan -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
I tried mixing up the recipe using Mobil 1 ATF - it would not mix at all with the acetone. Does any other ATF mix with acetone? On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I used the acetone and ATF recipe for this, and it worked well when I replaced the lines on my W123. Allan -- -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Re: Another oil thread
Wrong account again, sorry. 77 300D. I need to register the other account so I don't get dropped when sending from my phone, it looks like it sent in my threads but I guess it is sitting in Kaleb's queue. :( Thanks, Tim -- Forwarded message -- From: Tim Crone t...@crone.us Date: Apr 12, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another oil thread To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Right, 77 300D. Good call, and that would be in the right spot to have made that mess. I hope you are right! Thanks, Tim On Apr 12, 2013 12:18 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Which car? Assuming a diesel made before 1996, a common failure are the hoses to/from the oil cooler, check those first. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: I came off the interstate (a few miles but it was hot) and noticed that I was idling at 15. That's a bit low but not crazy low. Oil is ~500 miles. I started driving again - no driving issue, but pressure gauge was jumping from 15-30. I pulled into a gas station, opened hood - the entire driver side of the engine was covered in oil. Massive loss. I saw nothing terribly obvious, but I was wearing work clothes and there was no way to do any good diagnosis. Got it towed home (thanks AAA!) and how it's been in the driveway since Tuesday. It is still dripping oil, but I can't tell if it's from the mess in the compartment settling or from the breech. I'm going to have to get into it this weekend. Any suggestions where to start, if I don't see anything obvious? Should I just dump in oil and see if it leaks out the head, or is there a better way? Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
