Re: [MBZ] Gotta hate MB -- $900E500
That's what this 99ML320 is doing too. --FT On 4/13/21 7:14 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On 2021-04-13 00:06, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: What will the conductor plate fix cost? This is starting to remind me of the time I saw a beautiful saddle over burgundy S210 on Benzworld. The guy had picked it up stuck in 2nd gear, five digit odometer. He did the conductor plate and a whole lot more. I wanted to buy it from him, but had to admit he'd already done everything I could think of before he threw in the towel and I wasn't fixing it either, short of using it for a donor body and moving my other S210 into it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta hate MB -- $900E500
I don't think they dig that far into them. The guy who called yesterday said the tech figured it was the CP. That is kinda the lowest level component if the TCM (called VGS on these units) is bad. It is an intermittent issue so I think it must be a loose connection, or some intermittent system failure. I did see one guy posted in some forum that when he "got on it" it dropped into limp mode, which is exactly what happened last time I drove it, was shifting fine until I stomped it and it revved up and I was accelerating. That's why I thought it might be the SBC nanny telling the tranny nanny to slow down. I did clean the connector, which is only 4 pins. It was kinda nasty but not too bad, did not change anything though I had hoped maybe it was that simple. I might open it up and see what is going on. If it is a solenoid issue (which does not seem to be the case) then the traces can be repaired on the conductor plate, but if the TCM is crapped then it is new conductor plate time as the TCM is integral to the CP. That's like $800-900 and it has to be reflashed to match the car. I *think* I can do it with the DAS computer, I have seen something about that procedure but have not studied it. But maybe there is something loose in there, maybe I can see it if I drop the CP. If the brake controller solenoid on the CP is actually bad, which is a code it is throwing I thought might be related to the SBC, then either changing the solenoid or fixing the trace might fix it. Fluid refill on these 722.9s are a PITA, there is no dip tube so you have to pump it up from the bottom with a special fitting on the drain bung. "Lifetime" fluid doncha know... and that sh*t is not cheap, some Very Special Fluid. I am still trying to get this ML320 limp issue sorted after a new CP and (used) TCM has not cured the issue, it might be the wiring from the TCM to the CP, everything else is new. These nannies are making me crazy but it has now become an obsession so I will persevere. --FT On 4/13/21 7:27 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Can you talk with the service manager (or better yet the tech) and see if they can offer any insight beyond "replace the conductor plate"? Are there any service bulletins for this car / transmission that they can give you copies? - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 7:30 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: No they fixed the SBC accumulator which is all I said to do. I guess they must have driven it to check it out. --FT Sent from iPhone On Apr 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta hate MB -- $900E500
So he did the conductor plate and it was still stuck in 2nd? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 13, 2021, at 6:15 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2021-04-13 00:06, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >> What will the conductor plate fix cost? > > This is starting to remind me of the time I saw a beautiful saddle over > burgundy S210 on Benzworld. The guy had picked it up stuck in 2nd gear, five > digit odometer. > He did the conductor plate and a whole lot more. I wanted to buy it from him, > but had to admit he'd already done everything I could think of before he > threw in the towel and I wasn't fixing it either, short of using it for a > donor body and moving my other S210 into it. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta hate MB -- $900E500
Can you talk with the service manager (or better yet the tech) and see if they can offer any insight beyond "replace the conductor plate"? Are there any service bulletins for this car / transmission that they can give you copies? - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 7:30 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No they fixed the SBC accumulator which is all I said to do. I guess they > must have driven it to check it out. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Apr 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta hate MB -- $900E500
On 2021-04-13 00:06, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: What will the conductor plate fix cost? This is starting to remind me of the time I saw a beautiful saddle over burgundy S210 on Benzworld. The guy had picked it up stuck in 2nd gear, five digit odometer. He did the conductor plate and a whole lot more. I wanted to buy it from him, but had to admit he'd already done everything I could think of before he threw in the towel and I wasn't fixing it either, short of using it for a donor body and moving my other S210 into it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta hate MB -- $900E500
What will the conductor plate fix cost? On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 7:30 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No they fixed the SBC accumulator which is all I said to do. I guess they > must have driven it to check it out. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Apr 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta hate MB -- $900E500
No they fixed the SBC accumulator which is all I said to do. I guess they must have driven it to check it out. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Apr 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta hate MB -- $900E500
That's too bad. Will they charge you anything? Max Dillon Charleston SC Apr 12, 2021 10:46:22 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes : > well poo. THe stealer called and said the SBC repair did not solve the > tranny issue, they think it is the conductor plate. bah. I guess I'll go > fetch the car tomorrow with my trailer. bah. > > I still wonder why the issue is intermittent, guess I will have to open up > the tranny and take a look at it. bah. > > But major points to them for getting it fixed first thing this morning. > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta hate MB -- $900E500
well poo. THe stealer called and said the SBC repair did not solve the tranny issue, they think it is the conductor plate. bah. I guess I'll go fetch the car tomorrow with my trailer. bah. I still wonder why the issue is intermittent, guess I will have to open up the tranny and take a look at it. bah. But major points to them for getting it fixed first thing this morning. -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
