Re: [MBZ] I am NEVER selling on ebay again
They will just create 2 accounts - same problem. -Dave Walton On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: dave walton wrote: That's how the online GSA Auctions work. They do have a weakness, however. I suppose you could make the smallest incremental bid repetitively over several hours which would cause the auction to end in the wee hours of the morning when no one else was awake or motivated enough to bid against you. Set it so a user can't bid again if they were the last bidder. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am NEVER selling on ebay again
dave walton wrote: That's how the online GSA Auctions work. They do have a weakness, however. I suppose you could make the smallest incremental bid repetitively over several hours which would cause the auction to end in the wee hours of the morning when no one else was awake or motivated enough to bid against you. Set it so a user can't bid again if they were the last bidder. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am NEVER selling on ebay again
Andrew wrote Ebay has on and will never have any REAL competition I assume you meant none instead of on. I disagree - someone will come up with a business model that everyone will flock to - if someone finds a way to prevent abuse by flaky bidders and people will flock to them. Also, a better feedback system would be helpful - just as Walmart blew all the other department stores away a few years ago I can see them starting to slip - someone will do to them what they did to all those other retailers. Some day... LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 9:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am NEVER selling on ebay again Ebay has on and will never have any REAL competition because they are just so damned good from a bidder's perspective. I love the thrill of sniping in my winning bid at the end of a hot auction. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: There is a place called ioffer.com.Ubid.com has been around for a long time. I think it was started by the macmall/pcmall folks, or somebody they knew. Ubid has listings for used cars, but I don't think there is a category for parts. It caters more toward consumer electronics. I listed a tractor on ubid, and got a few lowball (ridiculous) offers. I sold it by a targeted email on the uppermidwest Organic fruitgrowers email list. I believe the market is overripe for some serious competition to the Bay area whackos' fleabay. I think there is enough talent on this list to launch it. On 11/21/09 8:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have just about had it with ebay. I took quite a long break from ebay because of all of their rule changes, and have recently been selling a few things there. Nothing is selling for anywhere near what it should, most things that usually do sell are not getting bids. So some jackass johnny come lately with 30 something feedback, who has only been a member for a few months leaves me negative feedback saying his item never showed up. This guy never contacted me, apparently did not pay attention to delivery times in the auction, never paid attention to the tracking info that was emailed to him when it shipped. He even pays for parcel post to cheap out on the shipping but I went ahead and shipped it fedex for him. And he leave negative feedback. Ebay has cut the balls off of sellers and they cant leave negative feedback for these type of buyers. I am done, it is just not worth it at all. What else is out there to sell parts and such on? -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I disagree; surely better business models are out there, but being the first one to get big and dominate the market means that business will usually stay in that position unless they go bankrupt or somehow remove themselves from the game. CL seems to be the best competitor only because their business model is different. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am NEVER selling on ebay again Andrew wrote Ebay has on and will never have any REAL competition I assume you meant none instead of on. I disagree - someone will come up with a business model that everyone will flock to - if someone finds a way to prevent abuse by flaky bidders and people will flock to them. Also, a better feedback system would be helpful - just as Walmart blew all the other department stores away a few years ago I can see them starting to slip - someone will do to them what they did to all those other retailers. Some day... LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 9:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am NEVER selling on ebay again Ebay has on and will never have any REAL competition because they are just so damned good from a bidder's perspective. I love the thrill of sniping in my winning bid at the end of a hot auction. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: There is a place called ioffer.com.Ubid.com has been around for a long time. I think it was started by the macmall/pcmall folks, or somebody they knew. Ubid has listings for used cars, but I don't think there is a category for parts. It caters more toward consumer electronics. I listed a tractor on ubid, and got a few lowball (ridiculous) offers. I sold it by a targeted email on the uppermidwest Organic fruitgrowers email list. I believe the market is overripe for some serious competition to the Bay area whackos' fleabay. I think there is enough talent on this list to launch it. On 11/21/09 8:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have just about had it with ebay. I took quite a long break from ebay because of all of their rule changes, and have recently been selling a few things there. Nothing is selling for anywhere near what it should, most things that usually do sell are not getting bids. So some jackass johnny come lately with 30 something feedback, who has only been a member for a few months leaves me negative feedback saying his item never showed up. This guy never contacted me, apparently did not pay attention to delivery times in the auction, never paid attention to the tracking info that was emailed to him when it shipped. He even pays for parcel post to cheap out on the shipping but I went ahead and shipped it fedex for him. And he leave negative feedback. Ebay has cut the balls off of sellers and they cant leave negative feedback for these type of buyers. I am done, it is just not worth it at all. What else is out there to sell parts and such on? -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am NEVER selling on ebay again
I understand CL is at least partially owned by the fleabay folks. --- On Mon, 11/23/09, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am NEVER selling on ebay again To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 2:05 PM I disagree; surely better business models are out there, but being the first one to get big and dominate the market means that business will usually stay in that position unless they go bankrupt or somehow remove themselves from the game. CL seems to be the best competitor only because their business model is different. Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am NEVER selling on ebay again
That's how the online GSA Auctions work. They do have a weakness, however. I suppose you could make the smallest incremental bid repetitively over several hours which would cause the auction to end in the wee hours of the morning when no one else was awake or motivated enough to bid against you. For online parts auctions, it would be good if the item remained listed for months instead of days. List a Buy-it-Now and accept offers. I have at least a hundred items that I would gladly trade for cash well under what a new one would cost, but which are too obscure to put on eBay in hopes someone who needs it looks it up in the next couple days. -Dave Walton On 11/22/09, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: I believe the market is overripe for some serious competition to the Bay area whackos' fleabay. I think there is enough talent on this list to launch it. Do you think the auction format is still the best? I always thought a neat alternative to eBay, to get rid of the sniping type behavior, would be to have the auction end time be flexible, like in a real auction. That is, each time a bid comes in, the end of the auction is extended by some minutes. Only once no bids have been received for some amount of time would the gavel be dropped and the item sold. But for parts, I'm not sure an auction makes sense. There may not be enough interest in any particular part to get an acceptable price by bidding. In this case a fixed price (maybe with a option to make a lower offer but this would not be binding on the seller to accept) might be better. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I am an even bigger fan of the make offer option. I've gotten some real deals that way, with no fear of sniping. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:39 AM, dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote: That's how the online GSA Auctions work. They do have a weakness, however. I suppose you could make the smallest incremental bid repetitively over several hours which would cause the auction to end in the wee hours of the morning when no one else was awake or motivated enough to bid against you. For online parts auctions, it would be good if the item remained listed for months instead of days. List a Buy-it-Now and accept offers. I have at least a hundred items that I would gladly trade for cash well under what a new one would cost, but which are too obscure to put on eBay in hopes someone who needs it looks it up in the next couple days. -Dave Walton On 11/22/09, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: I believe the market is overripe for some serious competition to the Bay area whackos' fleabay. I think there is enough talent on this list to launch it. Do you think the auction format is still the best? I always thought a neat alternative to eBay, to get rid of the sniping type behavior, would be to have the auction end time be flexible, like in a real auction. That is, each time a bid comes in, the end of the auction is extended by some minutes. Only once no bids have been received for some amount of time would the gavel be dropped and the item sold. But for parts, I'm not sure an auction makes sense. There may not be enough interest in any particular part to get an acceptable price by bidding. In this case a fixed price (maybe with a option to make a lower offer but this would not be binding on the seller to accept) might be better. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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that is true, so I am sure its just a matter of time before the screw that up as well. Richard Hattaway wrote: I understand CL is at least partially owned by the fleabay folks. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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25% of CL, to be exact. Dan Sent from my iPod On Nov 23, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: that is true, so I am sure its just a matter of time before the screw that up as well. Richard Hattaway wrote: I understand CL is at least partially owned by the fleabay folks. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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CL is just online classifieds right? AFAIK they don't give sellers any tools and buyers are not registered at all. That's certainly simple especially compared to ebay; is there some middle ground that would be prefereable from a seller's standpoint? I assume some way to have an idea of other seller's past experience with a buyer would be helpful. Allan Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: that is true, so I am sure its just a matter of time before the screw that up as well. Richard Hattaway wrote: I understand CL is at least partially owned by the fleabay folks. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:08 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Andrew wrote Ebay has on and will never have any REAL competition I assume you meant none instead of on. I disagree - someone will come up with a business model that everyone will flock to - if someone finds a way to prevent abuse by flaky bidders and people will flock to them. eBay doesn't have to improve their business model, or worry about others', as long as they enjoy the tremendous name recognition that they do now. I have noticed that among a majority of the non-techno-geeky people that I know, eBay is literally synonymous with online shopping---it's the first and the last place they go to buy anything, and it never occurs to them to look anywhere else. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am NEVER selling on ebay again
I'm with you. I posted my '82 300D on eBay about a month ago, and it was immediately bid up to my reserve price by a guy in Austin. I thought why would a guy in Austin bid on this car? but he had quite a history and a 100% approval rating, so I was pretty comfortable with it. Comes the end of the auction, and in the last minute the guy is outbid by one dollar by a new user with no bid history and no rating. And of course he reneged on the deal, citing a family emergency. I did some sleuthing, and found out the second bidder is from Austin, too -- what a coincidence! I sent an email to both guys accusing them of being the same person and got no response from either. In a nutshell, the first bidder (the one with the history) sells cars similar to the one I was selling, so he essentially took mine off the market by bidding it up, then got out of the deal by using his second account to outbid himself. I had to wait through eBay's mandated time periods (a total of about three weeks) before I could get my account credited -- I'm sure glad the credit card they have on file for me is expired, or they would have sucked their commission out of my account and it would have taken me even longer to get a refund. And there is absolutely no way to complain about this guy. As Kaleb so eloquently put it, sellers have no recourse. So screw eBay. Craigslist hasn't worked for me either. I guess I'll advertise it on autotrader.com -- $65 for an ad that runs for up to a year, which is cheaper than eBay. Or I'll just buy a car cover for it and keep it so the mice have a place to live in the winter, and add it to my list of projects. --mf On 11/21/09, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have just about had it with ebay. I took quite a long break from ebay because of all of their rule changes, and have recently been selling a few things there. Nothing is selling for anywhere near what it should, most things that usually do sell are not getting bids. So some jackass johnny come lately with 30 something feedback, who has only been a member for a few months leaves me negative feedback saying his item never showed up. This guy never contacted me, apparently did not pay attention to delivery times in the auction, never paid attention to the tracking info that was emailed to him when it shipped. He even pays for parcel post to cheap out on the shipping but I went ahead and shipped it fedex for him. And he leave negative feedback. Ebay has cut the balls off of sellers and they cant leave negative feedback for these type of buyers. I am done, it is just not worth it at all. What else is out there to sell parts and such on? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com _ L. Mark Finch 1982 300D 1991 300E 2.6 1995 E320 wagon (1985 Jag XJ6, 1960 A-H Sprite, 1969 Triumph Tiger) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have never run into that scenario before, although I can see how that could happen pretty easy. All I do know is that ebay used to be great until they started messing with it. If it aint broke, dont fix it. L. Mark Finch wrote: I'm with you. I posted my '82 300D on eBay about a month ago, and it was immediately bid up to my reserve price by a guy in Austin. I thought why would a guy in Austin bid on this car? but he had quite a history and a 100% approval rating, so I was pretty comfortable with it. Comes the end of the auction, and in the last minute the guy is outbid by one dollar by a new user with no bid history and no rating. And of course he reneged on the deal, citing a family emergency. I did some sleuthing, and found out the second bidder is from Austin, too -- what a coincidence! I sent an email to both guys accusing them of being the same person and got no response from either. In a nutshell, the first bidder (the one with the history) sells cars similar to the one I was selling, so he essentially took mine off the market by bidding it up, then got out of the deal by using his second account to outbid himself. I had to wait through eBay's mandated time periods (a total of about three weeks) before I could get my account credited -- I'm sure glad the credit card they have on file for me is expired, or they would have sucked their commission out of my account and it would have taken me even longer to get a refund. And there is absolutely no way to complain about this guy. As Kaleb so eloquently put it, sellers have no recourse. So screw eBay. Craigslist hasn't worked for me either. I guess I'll advertise it on autotrader.com -- $65 for an ad that runs for up to a year, which is cheaper than eBay. Or I'll just buy a car cover for it and keep it so the mice have a place to live in the winter, and add it to my list of projects. --mf On 11/21/09, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have just about had it with ebay. I took quite a long break from ebay because of all of their rule changes, and have recently been selling a few things there. Nothing is selling for anywhere near what it should, most things that usually do sell are not getting bids. So some jackass johnny come lately with 30 something feedback, who has only been a member for a few months leaves me negative feedback saying his item never showed up. This guy never contacted me, apparently did not pay attention to delivery times in the auction, never paid attention to the tracking info that was emailed to him when it shipped. He even pays for parcel post to cheap out on the shipping but I went ahead and shipped it fedex for him. And he leave negative feedback. Ebay has cut the balls off of sellers and they cant leave negative feedback for these type of buyers. I am done, it is just not worth it at all. What else is out there to sell parts and such on? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com _ L. Mark Finch 1982 300D 1991 300E 2.6 1995 E320 wagon (1985 Jag XJ6, 1960 A-H Sprite, 1969 Triumph Tiger) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Your 'vote', such as it is, is many times more effective if accompanied by a well-written (firm, but polite) complaint to the management explaining your position. Best, of course, is rather than say 'never' you say 'not so long as...', or some such. Tell them what you'd require in order to be their customer again. Keep it real, there's no avoiding the shills, but the fact that your side is un-presentable is your real complaint. Oh, and Paypal required in order to do business through them, that's not so cool either. eBay is opening up opportunities for competition. Don't know that's what they had in mind, but that'll be the effect! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There is a place called ioffer.com.Ubid.com has been around for a long time. I think it was started by the macmall/pcmall folks, or somebody they knew. Ubid has listings for used cars, but I don't think there is a category for parts. It caters more toward consumer electronics. I listed a tractor on ubid, and got a few lowball (ridiculous) offers. I sold it by a targeted email on the uppermidwest Organic fruitgrowers email list. I believe the market is overripe for some serious competition to the Bay area whackos' fleabay. I think there is enough talent on this list to launch it. On 11/21/09 8:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have just about had it with ebay. I took quite a long break from ebay because of all of their rule changes, and have recently been selling a few things there. Nothing is selling for anywhere near what it should, most things that usually do sell are not getting bids. So some jackass johnny come lately with 30 something feedback, who has only been a member for a few months leaves me negative feedback saying his item never showed up. This guy never contacted me, apparently did not pay attention to delivery times in the auction, never paid attention to the tracking info that was emailed to him when it shipped. He even pays for parcel post to cheap out on the shipping but I went ahead and shipped it fedex for him. And he leave negative feedback. Ebay has cut the balls off of sellers and they cant leave negative feedback for these type of buyers. I am done, it is just not worth it at all. What else is out there to sell parts and such on? -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ebay has on and will never have any REAL competition because they are just so damned good from a bidder's perspective. I love the thrill of sniping in my winning bid at the end of a hot auction. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: There is a place called ioffer.com.Ubid.com has been around for a long time. I think it was started by the macmall/pcmall folks, or somebody they knew. Ubid has listings for used cars, but I don't think there is a category for parts. It caters more toward consumer electronics. I listed a tractor on ubid, and got a few lowball (ridiculous) offers. I sold it by a targeted email on the uppermidwest Organic fruitgrowers email list. I believe the market is overripe for some serious competition to the Bay area whackos' fleabay. I think there is enough talent on this list to launch it. On 11/21/09 8:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have just about had it with ebay. I took quite a long break from ebay because of all of their rule changes, and have recently been selling a few things there. Nothing is selling for anywhere near what it should, most things that usually do sell are not getting bids. So some jackass johnny come lately with 30 something feedback, who has only been a member for a few months leaves me negative feedback saying his item never showed up. This guy never contacted me, apparently did not pay attention to delivery times in the auction, never paid attention to the tracking info that was emailed to him when it shipped. He even pays for parcel post to cheap out on the shipping but I went ahead and shipped it fedex for him. And he leave negative feedback. Ebay has cut the balls off of sellers and they cant leave negative feedback for these type of buyers. I am done, it is just not worth it at all. What else is out there to sell parts and such on? -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: I believe the market is overripe for some serious competition to the Bay area whackos' fleabay. I think there is enough talent on this list to launch it. Do you think the auction format is still the best? I always thought a neat alternative to eBay, to get rid of the sniping type behavior, would be to have the auction end time be flexible, like in a real auction. That is, each time a bid comes in, the end of the auction is extended by some minutes. Only once no bids have been received for some amount of time would the gavel be dropped and the item sold. But for parts, I'm not sure an auction makes sense. There may not be enough interest in any particular part to get an acceptable price by bidding. In this case a fixed price (maybe with a option to make a lower offer but this would not be binding on the seller to accept) might be better. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Those are good points. For most parts, I think a buy it now of best offer format is good for parts. I don't look for stuff without a need, and most of the time, if I have stuff to sell, I can wait for the right price. But there are times when I like the auction format because in the end at a real auction, the item is sold. An auction can help establish prices if you are not sure of the value, or have something rare. Like a M100 chrome plated muffler bearing. I think Andrew was being tongue in cheek about loving fleabay. I like the snipe option, but Allen's flexible ending is more realistic to get a true market price. That is a way you could give the bay area snobs some real competition. (along with treating buyers and sellers fairly.) (sorry I don't mean to offend list members in the Bay area, but fleabay in the beginning was very snobbish about being for those in the bay area. They got over that quickly when they learned how to monetize fleabay. But the fleabay people are still arrogant in my opinion, and that is close to snobish, so, to me, they are snobs.) On 11/22/09 8:59 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com writes: I believe the market is overripe for some serious competition to the Bay area whackos' fleabay. I think there is enough talent on this list to launch it. Do you think the auction format is still the best? I always thought a neat alternative to eBay, to get rid of the sniping type behavior, would be to have the auction end time be flexible, like in a real auction. That is, each time a bid comes in, the end of the auction is extended by some minutes. Only once no bids have been received for some amount of time would the gavel be dropped and the item sold. But for parts, I'm not sure an auction makes sense. There may not be enough interest in any particular part to get an acceptable price by bidding. In this case a fixed price (maybe with a option to make a lower offer but this would not be binding on the seller to accept) might be better. Allan -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I don't know -- I've been on there for years and have had only one bad experience, and that was resolved when I emailed the seller (he didn't ship what my wife won and had paid for) and threatened to have my brother, who is in the Secret Service, ask his friends to start an investigation of mail fraud. ... Item arrived a few days later. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:58 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Ebay has on and will never have any REAL competition because they are just so damned good from a bidder's perspective. I love the thrill of sniping in my winning bid at the end of a hot auction. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: There is a place called ioffer.com.Ubid.com has been around for a long time. I think it was started by the macmall/pcmall folks, or somebody they knew. Ubid has listings for used cars, but I don't think there is a category for parts. It caters more toward consumer electronics. I listed a tractor on ubid, and got a few lowball (ridiculous) offers. I sold it by a targeted email on the uppermidwest Organic fruitgrowers email list. I believe the market is overripe for some serious competition to the Bay area whackos' fleabay. I think there is enough talent on this list to launch it. On 11/21/09 8:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have just about had it with ebay. I took quite a long break from ebay because of all of their rule changes, and have recently been selling a few things there. Nothing is selling for anywhere near what it should, most things that usually do sell are not getting bids. So some jackass johnny come lately with 30 something feedback, who has only been a member for a few months leaves me negative feedback saying his item never showed up. This guy never contacted me, apparently did not pay attention to delivery times in the auction, never paid attention to the tracking info that was emailed to him when it shipped. He even pays for parcel post to cheap out on the shipping but I went ahead and shipped it fedex for him. And he leave negative feedback. Ebay has cut the balls off of sellers and they cant leave negative feedback for these type of buyers. I am done, it is just not worth it at all. What else is out there to sell parts and such on? -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- You are what you are now because you where then. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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you know what i won't do again? smoke weed with willie again! On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know -- I've been on there for years and have had only one bad experience, and that was resolved when I emailed the seller (he didn't ship what my wife won and had paid for) and threatened to have my brother, who is in the Secret Service, ask his friends to start an investigation of mail fraud. ... Item arrived a few days later. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:58 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Ebay has on and will never have any REAL competition because they are just so damned good from a bidder's perspective. I love the thrill of sniping in my winning bid at the end of a hot auction. On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: There is a place called ioffer.com.Ubid.com has been around for a long time. I think it was started by the macmall/pcmall folks, or somebody they knew. Ubid has listings for used cars, but I don't think there is a category for parts. It caters more toward consumer electronics. I listed a tractor on ubid, and got a few lowball (ridiculous) offers. I sold it by a targeted email on the uppermidwest Organic fruitgrowers email list. I believe the market is overripe for some serious competition to the Bay area whackos' fleabay. I think there is enough talent on this list to launch it. On 11/21/09 8:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have just about had it with ebay. I took quite a long break from ebay because of all of their rule changes, and have recently been selling a few things there. Nothing is selling for anywhere near what it should, most things that usually do sell are not getting bids. So some jackass johnny come lately with 30 something feedback, who has only been a member for a few months leaves me negative feedback saying his item never showed up. This guy never contacted me, apparently did not pay attention to delivery times in the auction, never paid attention to the tracking info that was emailed to him when it shipped. He even pays for parcel post to cheap out on the shipping but I went ahead and shipped it fedex for him. And he leave negative feedback. Ebay has cut the balls off of sellers and they cant leave negative feedback for these type of buyers. I am done, it is just not worth it at all. What else is out there to sell parts and such on? -- 87 300SDL, 87 300D, 81 240D, 200D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- You are what you are now because you where then. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I am NEVER selling on ebay again
I have just about had it with ebay. I took quite a long break from ebay because of all of their rule changes, and have recently been selling a few things there. Nothing is selling for anywhere near what it should, most things that usually do sell are not getting bids. So some jackass johnny come lately with 30 something feedback, who has only been a member for a few months leaves me negative feedback saying his item never showed up. This guy never contacted me, apparently did not pay attention to delivery times in the auction, never paid attention to the tracking info that was emailed to him when it shipped. He even pays for parcel post to cheap out on the shipping but I went ahead and shipped it fedex for him. And he leave negative feedback. Ebay has cut the balls off of sellers and they cant leave negative feedback for these type of buyers. I am done, it is just not worth it at all. What else is out there to sell parts and such on? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Plus, their search function has been down half a day. It's still acting funky. Legit buyers cannot even find things to bid on today. They are pissed too. -Dave Walton On 11/21/09, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have just about had it with ebay. I took quite a long break from ebay because of all of their rule changes, and have recently been selling a few things there. Nothing is selling for anywhere near what it should, most things that usually do sell are not getting bids. So some jackass johnny come lately with 30 something feedback, who has only been a member for a few months leaves me negative feedback saying his item never showed up. This guy never contacted me, apparently did not pay attention to delivery times in the auction, never paid attention to the tracking info that was emailed to him when it shipped. He even pays for parcel post to cheap out on the shipping but I went ahead and shipped it fedex for him. And he leave negative feedback. Ebay has cut the balls off of sellers and they cant leave negative feedback for these type of buyers. I am done, it is just not worth it at all. What else is out there to sell parts and such on? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am NEVER selling on ebay again
2009/11/21 dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com Plus, their search function has been down half a day. It's still acting funky. Legit buyers cannot even find things to bid on today. They are pissed too. -Dave Walton On 11/21/09, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have just about had it with ebay. I took quite a long break from ebay because of all of their rule changes, and have recently been selling a few things there. Nothing is selling for anywhere near what it should, most things that usually do sell are not getting bids. So some jackass johnny come lately with 30 something feedback, who has only been a member for a few months leaves me negative feedback saying his item never showed up. This guy never contacted me, apparently did not pay attention to delivery times in the auction, never paid attention to the tracking info that was emailed to him when it shipped. He even pays for parcel post to cheap out on the shipping but I went ahead and shipped it fedex for him. And he leave negative feedback. Ebay has cut the balls off of sellers and they cant leave negative feedback for these type of buyers. I am done, it is just not worth it at all. What else is out there to sell parts and such on? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
