Re: [MBZ] Idle change

2005-08-18 Thread JJJ
Hola amigos
My 1982 380SEL, 487,000 miles, has a idle speed change. Idles at about 650 then 
down to about 500 and then back to 650 when hot or cold. Always starts easy and 
runs down the road just great, mileage still 17 town, 22 highway. New plugs and 
Bosch wires, and I use a Techron fuel system cleaner on a regular basis. I 
looked this morning for vacuum leaks, well 1st of all there are not that many 
places for leaks to develop, didn´t find any, hose connections soft  ply able. 
The electronic idle control box has been changed a couple of time over the life 
of the car. Suggestions por favor  are there any vacuum lines to the tranny? 
Adios Don


Don, 

when i owned that car, it did that always...that would be about 4-5 years 
ago...i loved it when that was the only variation, EXCEPT, when the AC was on 
and the car might die when the idle went too low...i had it looked at twice 
with no results from the paid wrenches...i think we both had to replace that 
module (the black one) that controls the high idle (1100)...did you fix your 
window?

Re: [MBZ] Idle change

2005-08-18 Thread Gerald R. Flintrop
Does its distributor’s vacuum advance “can” have TWO vacuum hoses? One on
the advance side and the other on the retard side? If so, I’m guessing that
the A/C control tweaks them to manage idle speed, when it deems it
necessary. If that’s true on your 380, as it was on my 280s (77 SE and 78
SLC), that might be a place to troubleshoot.

 

Jerry   Ö¿Ö

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Hola amigos

My 1982 380SEL, 487,000 miles, has a idle speed change. Idles at about 650
then down to about 500 and then back to 650 when hot or cold. Always starts
easy and runs down the road just great, mileage still 17 town, 22 highway.
New plugs and Bosch wires, and I use a Techron fuel system cleaner on a
regular basis. I looked this morning for vacuum leaks, well 1st of all there
are not that many places for leaks to develop, didn´t find any, hose
connections soft  ply able. The electronic idle control box has been
changed a couple of time over the life of the car. Suggestions por favor 
are there any vacuum lines to the tranny? 

Adios Don

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Re: [MBZ] Idle change

2005-08-18 Thread Potter, Tom E
Here is an illustration. It is called the Idle Control Valve.
 
http://www2.discountmbparts.com/parts/parts1/discountmbparts/wizard.jsp?year=1982
 
http://www2.discountmbparts.com/parts/parts1/discountmbparts/wizard.jsp?year=1982make=MBmodel=380-SEL-002category=Cpart=Idle+Control+Valve
 make=MBmodel=380-SEL-002category=Cpart=Idle+Control+Valve
 

Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536


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Could be a bad connection at the Idle Control Solenoid (I think that is what it 
is called). It is on the passenger side front of the engine. It gives trouble 
on my 380SE. I will try to find an illustration of it.
 

Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Idle change


Hola amigos
My 1982 380SEL, 487,000 miles, has a idle speed change. Idles at about 650 then 
down to about 500 and then back to 650 when hot or cold. Always starts easy and 
runs down the road just great, mileage still 17 town, 22 highway. New plugs and 
Bosch wires, and I use a Techron fuel system cleaner on a regular basis. I 
looked this morning for vacuum leaks, well 1st of all there are not that many 
places for leaks to develop, didn´t find any, hose connections soft  ply able. 
The electronic idle control box has been changed a couple of time over the life 
of the car. Suggestions por favor  are there any vacuum lines to the tranny? 
Adios Don

 
Don, 
 
when i owned that car, it did that always...that would be about 4-5 years 
ago...i loved it when that was the only variation, EXCEPT, when the AC was on 
and the car might die when the idle went too low...i had it looked at twice 
with no results from the paid wrenches...i think we both had to replace that 
module (the black one) that controls the high idle (1100)...did you fix your 
window?