Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it
The Kingair probably also needs a pilot (or two?) unless you're twin turboprop licensed and current? On Tue, Sep 12, 2023, at 10:45, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > Mooney? > > Randy > > > On 11/09/2023 1:22 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote: >> The difference in cost between a 182 at 150mph vs anything that will cruise >> 200 (saving 30 minutes for Curt's flight) will cost you a LOT of money. I >> can fly the 182 out of a 1200 foot grass runway comfortably. Few 200 MPH >> planes can do that. I suspect that Curt might be able to clear 1200ft of >> relatively flat straight ground for a runway --- >> >> >> >> >> --- Original Message --- >> On Monday, September 11th, 2023 at 1:16 PM, MB list etc >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >>> That's 2 hrs and 20 minutes in our Cessna 182 - a LOT less expensive than a >>> Kingair both in capital cost and operational cost. >>> >>> >>> >>> --- Original Message --- >>> On Monday, September 11th, 2023 at 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> I just measured, the straight line distance from our house to camp is only 350 miles. Its 450 miles in the car... -Curt > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it
Mooney? Randy On 11/09/2023 1:22 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote: The difference in cost between a 182 at 150mph vs anything that will cruise 200 (saving 30 minutes for Curt's flight) will cost you a LOT of money. I can fly the 182 out of a 1200 foot grass runway comfortably. Few 200 MPH planes can do that. I suspect that Curt might be able to clear 1200ft of relatively flat straight ground for a runway --- --- Original Message --- On Monday, September 11th, 2023 at 1:16 PM, MB list etc wrote: That's 2 hrs and 20 minutes in our Cessna 182 - a LOT less expensive than a Kingair both in capital cost and operational cost. --- Original Message --- On Monday, September 11th, 2023 at 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just measured, the straight line distance from our house to camp is only 350 miles. Its 450 miles in the car... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it
The difference in cost between a 182 at 150mph vs anything that will cruise 200 (saving 30 minutes for Curt's flight) will cost you a LOT of money. I can fly the 182 out of a 1200 foot grass runway comfortably. Few 200 MPH planes can do that. I suspect that Curt might be able to clear 1200ft of relatively flat straight ground for a runway --- --- Original Message --- On Monday, September 11th, 2023 at 1:16 PM, MB list etc wrote: > > > > That's 2 hrs and 20 minutes in our Cessna 182 - a LOT less expensive than a > Kingair both in capital cost and operational cost. > > > > --- Original Message --- > On Monday, September 11th, 2023 at 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > > I just measured, the straight line distance from our house to camp is only > > 350 miles. Its 450 miles in the car... > > > > -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it
Yes, which is why I’m getting ready to buy it since OK Don passed. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2023, at 12:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Psychologically, $3,599,000 seems way cheaper than $3,600,000 and therefore > represents a Great Bargain. > >> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:54 PM Craig via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:38:43 + MB list etc via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >>> Since it's on fakebook and I can't see what it is, I don't want it. If >>> it's an airplane, I have too many as it is >> >> 1999 Beechcraft king air 350 >> $3,599,000 >> >> >> Craig >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it
That's 2 hrs and 20 minutes in our Cessna 182 - a LOT less expensive than a Kingair both in capital cost and operational cost. --- Original Message --- On Monday, September 11th, 2023 at 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > > > I just measured, the straight line distance from our house to camp is only > 350 miles. Its 450 miles in the car... > > -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it
Yep, I’ve known a few lawyers that bought a plane thinking it will save them money. Most sell the plane within a year. One guy upgraded all the avionics and spent $100,000. I think he felt lucky a year later for what he paid for it (minus hanger fees). Donald H. Snook > On Sep 11, 2023, at 12:09 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > > The roughly $1000/hr operating cost and $250,000/year fixed > costs for such a thing are pretty prohibitive! > > -- Jim > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it
Silly video about a cheap (less than some 1/2 ton pickups) Lear 35. Don't forget to disinfect the interior. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEY-CfG4vxE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023, at 12:03, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Angie and I have often talked about how if we won the lottery this sort > of plane would make it a lot easier to commute to the northern estate... Chapter 1 in the book "Why many lottery winners end up broke" ;-) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it
The roughly $1000/hr operating cost and $250,000/year fixed costs for such a thing are pretty prohibitive! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it
I just measured, the straight line distance from our house to camp is only 350 miles. Its 450 miles in the car... -Curt On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 01:04:49 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Angie and I have often talked about how if we won the lottery this sort of plane would make it a lot easier to commute to the northern estate... -Curt On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 01:00:43 PM EDT, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: Several years ago I flew on a King Air like this one several times from Wichita to Liberal, Kansas. Instead of a 4.5 hour drive it was an hour and 15 minute flight. That’s a very nice plane. We had several lawyers with clients who were more than willing to pay the cost instead of that much drive time. I could get used to it. But, maintenance and hanger fees add up fast AND I’m not a pilot! I got to fly on one of the FedEx Corporate jets. It was a Global 6500 (Bombardier). Flew to Harrison, Arkansas from Memphis. Usually a 4.5 hour drive and it took about 39 minutes. Now, that was a luxury. Donald H. Snook > On Sep 11, 2023, at 11:38 AM, MB list etc wrote: > > Since it's on fakebook and I can't see what it is, I don't want it. If it's > an airplane, I have too many as it is > > > > > --- Original Message --- >> On Sunday, September 10th, 2023 at 8:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1959720977695561/?mibextid=6ojiHh >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it
Angie and I have often talked about how if we won the lottery this sort of plane would make it a lot easier to commute to the northern estate... -Curt On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 01:00:43 PM EDT, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: Several years ago I flew on a King Air like this one several times from Wichita to Liberal, Kansas. Instead of a 4.5 hour drive it was an hour and 15 minute flight. That’s a very nice plane. We had several lawyers with clients who were more than willing to pay the cost instead of that much drive time. I could get used to it. But, maintenance and hanger fees add up fast AND I’m not a pilot! I got to fly on one of the FedEx Corporate jets. It was a Global 6500 (Bombardier). Flew to Harrison, Arkansas from Memphis. Usually a 4.5 hour drive and it took about 39 minutes. Now, that was a luxury. Donald H. Snook > On Sep 11, 2023, at 11:38 AM, MB list etc wrote: > > Since it's on fakebook and I can't see what it is, I don't want it. If it's > an airplane, I have too many as it is > > > > > --- Original Message --- >> On Sunday, September 10th, 2023 at 8:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1959720977695561/?mibextid=6ojiHh >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it
Psychologically, $3,599,000 seems way cheaper than $3,600,000 and therefore represents a Great Bargain. On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:54 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:38:43 + MB list etc via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Since it's on fakebook and I can't see what it is, I don't want it. If > > it's an airplane, I have too many as it is > > 1999 Beechcraft king air 350 > $3,599,000 > > > Craig > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it
Several years ago I flew on a King Air like this one several times from Wichita to Liberal, Kansas. Instead of a 4.5 hour drive it was an hour and 15 minute flight. That’s a very nice plane. We had several lawyers with clients who were more than willing to pay the cost instead of that much drive time. I could get used to it. But, maintenance and hanger fees add up fast AND I’m not a pilot! I got to fly on one of the FedEx Corporate jets. It was a Global 6500 (Bombardier). Flew to Harrison, Arkansas from Memphis. Usually a 4.5 hour drive and it took about 39 minutes. Now, that was a luxury. Donald H. Snook > On Sep 11, 2023, at 11:38 AM, MB list etc wrote: > > Since it's on fakebook and I can't see what it is, I don't want it. If it's > an airplane, I have too many as it is > > > > > --- Original Message --- >> On Sunday, September 10th, 2023 at 8:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1959720977695561/?mibextid=6ojiHh >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it
Since it's on fakebook and I can't see what it is, I don't want it. If it's an airplane, I have too many as it is --- Original Message --- On Sunday, September 10th, 2023 at 8:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1959720977695561/?mibextid=6ojiHh > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it
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