[MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-02 Thread Zeitgeist

I'm testing the waters to see if I can locate a suitable replacement for my
wife's reliable but aging and ugly W123.

Criteria:

I'd like to find something a bit newer and with some safety equipment, like
ABS and airbags.  Additionally, I'd like the vehicle to get better fuel
mileage (diesel, of course).  I'd like to spend < $7k

Candidates (in order of preference):

1 - '87 190D 2.5 turbo
2 - '90-'93 300D 2.5 turbo
3 - '87 300D/TD
4 - '96-'97 Passat tdi

Anyone know of a suitable vehicle meeting these criteria?

TIA
--
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
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Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-02 Thread LT Don

Send me "ugly" W123.

On 12/2/06, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm testing the waters to see if I can locate a suitable replacement for
my
wife's reliable but aging and ugly W123.

Criteria:

I'd like to find something a bit newer and with some safety equipment,
like
ABS and airbags.  Additionally, I'd like the vehicle to get better fuel
mileage (diesel, of course).  I'd like to spend < $7k

Candidates (in order of preference):

1 - '87 190D 2.5 turbo
2 - '90-'93 300D 2.5 turbo
3 - '87 300D/TD
4 - '96-'97 Passat tdi

Anyone know of a suitable vehicle meeting these criteria?

TIA
--
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
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Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-02 Thread Zeitgeist

Send me $1.2k and ugly W123 is yours.

On 12/2/06, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Send me "ugly" W123.



Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
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Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread Sunil Hari

I have a 1992 300D 2.5T that's for sale at the right price.  Everything
works but the rear passenger light and emergency brake.  Completely up to
date on maintenance.  Running Mobil 1 5w-40 ever since I got it.  I'm in
Columbus, OH.

Only open to selling to listers right now because I still love the car, but
med school is getting too busy to actually drive -any- car.

On 12/2/06, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Send me $1.2k and ugly W123 is yours.

On 12/2/06, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Send me "ugly" W123.
>
>
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
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Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread Zeitgeist

Hey Sunil, tell us some more about your car...color, condition, equipment
list, price, etc.

On 12/2/06, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have a 1992 300D 2.5T that's for sale at the right price.



Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG


Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread Jim Cathey

Candidates (in order of preference):

1 - '87 190D 2.5 turbo


Know that the 201 is a decidedly smaller car, and may or
may not be a satisfactory replacement for a 123.  I'm
still a bit undecided about ours.  The mileage is nice.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread Zeitgeist

Agreed, but realistically, this car is mostly meant to be a commuter, and
would probably never haul more than we two adults (front) and our two kids
(rear).  My S124 works just fine for the longer distance comfort cruising.

On 12/2/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Know that the 201 is a decidedly smaller car, and may or
may not be a satisfactory replacement for a 123.  I'm
still a bit undecided about ours.  The mileage is nice.



Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG


Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread LT Don

Only if you throw in the VW bus.

On 12/2/06, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Send me $1.2k and ugly W123 is yours.






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Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread Zeitgeist

That'll only cost you another $4k...cheap, and soon to be available, as
we're upgrading to a 4WD version of the same.

On 12/2/06, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Only if you throw in the VW bus.



Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG


Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread Jim Cathey
Agreed, but realistically, this car is mostly meant to be a commuter, 
and
would probably never haul more than we two adults (front) and our two 
kids
(rear).  My S124 works just fine for the longer distance comfort 
cruising.


That there conjunction is your problem.  And.  Make that OR, and
maybe you've got yourself something.

I'm semi-serious.  If you have the front seats set comfortably
for median sized adult legroom there's nothing in the back.  If
you have a legless man in front, then you've got decent legroom
in back.  It's nearly an either-or proposition, and the rear seat
is IMHO only slightly better than that found in a 107 SL.  It's
a little wider, anyway.

To my way of thinking, it's almost a 2+2, not a 4-seater.  Try
one out before you leap through hoops to acquire one, especially
the rare 2.5 turbo.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread Zeitgeist

You're probably right, and the chance of finding a W201 turbo are slim to
none.  I'm sorta picky about colors and options, too.  We'll probably opt
for a W124 2.5 as a compromise candidate.

On 12/2/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



That there conjunction is your problem.  And.  Make that OR, and
maybe you've got yourself something.

I'm semi-serious.  If you have the front seats set comfortably
for median sized adult legroom there's nothing in the back.  If
you have a legless man in front, then you've got decent legroom
in back.  It's nearly an either-or proposition, and the rear seat
is IMHO only slightly better than that found in a 107 SL.  It's
a little wider, anyway.

To my way of thinking, it's almost a 2+2, not a 4-seater.  Try
one out before you leap through hoops to acquire one, especially
the rare 2.5 turbo.



--
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG


Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread Tyler Backman

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Did you find a syncro already? Someday I hope to save up $15k and  
build a turbo diesel camper syncro to drive to south america. It  
would be something like this:


http://www.hasenwerk.ca/syncrortdi/default.shtml

Instead of making it look nice, I want mine to have an expensive  
alarm system, lexan windows, and a 4 wheel parking brake so I can  
leave it on the street unattended in poorer areas of south america. I  
would also use an indirect injected non-electronic diesel for  
reliability and ability to run on poor quality fuels...


Tyler Backman

On Dec 2, 2006, at 7:30 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:

That'll only cost you another $4k...cheap, and soon to be  
available, as

we're upgrading to a 4WD version of the same.

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Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread Zeitgeist

I've been toying with the idea of converting my next Syncro over to a
1.9LTDI/IDI engine...or, even swapping Syncro running gear over to my
existing
van.  My wife really loves alpine skiing, snowshoeing and hiking, so she
needs something with more offroading capability.  I'd prefer to convert my
entire fleet over to biodiesel, but, presently there aren't too many
alternatives out there.

On 12/2/06, Tyler Backman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Did you find a syncro already? Someday I hope to save up $15k and
build a turbo diesel camper syncro to drive to south america. It
would be something like this:

http://www.hasenwerk.ca/syncrortdi/default.shtml

Casey

Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG


Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread Tyler Backman

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I don't think swapping the syncro running gear over to a standard bus  
would be a simple or worthwhile task. As I understand it, extensive  
modifications are made by steyr daimler puch to the chassis to make  
it more rigid and offroad capable. I expect that a huge amount of  
engineering and fabricating would be required to get an end product  
with the offroad ability of the syncro vanagon


As for the engine, I plan on using an OM616 instead of a VW engine if  
it can be made to fit. Kennedy Engineered Products in california will  
make custom bell-housing adapters to fit almost any engine to a VW  
transaxle. I'm definitely not a fan of the wasserboxer that comes in  
the syncro, and would not trust it for long trips in remote areas.


I love outdoor sports also, and have always wanted an all wheel drive  
turbo diesel station wagon, but sadly none have ever been made (that  
I am aware of). I haven't had the guts yet to try biodiesel up in the  
mountains, because of the high gel-point. I have heard of some new  
anti-gel products that work with biodiesel that might make it a  
practical fuel for winter sports!


If you have the money, you might want to look at a turbo diesel  
pinzagauer militairy vehicle. They are built by steyr daimler puch  
(the same company that makes the syncro modifications for VW) and are  
one of the most offroad capable vehicles ever produced. They are  
about the size and shape of a syncro vanagon, but are much heavier  
duty with 3 lockers, full skid plates, vertical drop down axles for  
ground clearance, and incredibly low gears. The diesels are rare, and  
have the same VW engine used in diesel volvos.


Tyler

On Dec 2, 2006, at 9:48 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:


I've been toying with the idea of converting my next Syncro over to a
1.9LTDI/IDI engine...or, even swapping Syncro running gear over to my
existing
van.  My wife really loves alpine skiing, snowshoeing and hiking,  
so she
needs something with more offroading capability.  I'd prefer to  
convert my

entire fleet over to biodiesel, but, presently there aren't too many
alternatives out there.

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Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread Zeitgeist

Most of the Syncro running gear is a ladder frame design which for the most
part is simply bolted up to the standard Vanagon chassis.  I've looked into
this, and see a few stumbling blocks, but mainly these are labor-time
issues, rather than parts problems.   I have both a cutting torch and a MIG
welder, so I'm not too worried.

An OM616 is a really tall engine, so it's not too compatible with the
Vanagon engine compartment. Oh, and not to mention, it's really
underpowered.  I'd think an OM602 turbo would be a nice setup for that rig.
Might be too long, though...and too tall, still.

I've had no problem running B99 in sub-twenties temps, either my OM617 or
OM603 engines, so I don't think I'd worry too much about bio.

I don't think I quite need the capabilities of a Unimog, Pinzgauer, or
Haflinger, at this time.


Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG


Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread Sunil Hari

Smoke silver exterior, beige MB-Tex interior, never been smoked in.  Only
options are the passenger side airbag and the smoke silver paint.  290Kmi,
new head, timing chain, front and rear suspension, and motor mounts at
280Kmi.  Maintenance (fuel, air, oil, rear diff, ATF) completely up to
date.  Has the block heater installed (cord and all).   Complete maintenance
records from first owner, none from second (he was a Benz mechanic and just
did it all), and I'm the third.

No rust that I have seen.

Starts on first glow every time, runs perfectly.  Only things that don't
work are the rear passenger light and the emergency brake (needs either
adjustment or new shoes).  And I think I'm getting the e-brake fixed soon
because I want to have it working.  ACC works perfectly, as does the
tilt/slide roof.

Paint is ok - looks great from 5 feet.  Up close, small scratches.  Couple
of small dents in the trunk and right rear passenger door, but nothing
major.  Couple of chips out of the windshied, but nothing obscuring vision.


Pictures at http://www.sunilhari.com/92 benz - these were taken in late May
of this year, right after I'd washed her.  She looks the same now, but is
due for a wash and has 3000 more miles.

Those are real Australian sheepskins with a 1.5-2" pile.

Haven't thought about a price because up until now I wasn't thinking of
selling.  But make me an offer and I'll seriously consider it.

If you have any more questions, just ask.
On 12/3/06, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Most of the Syncro running gear is a ladder frame design which for the
most
part is simply bolted up to the standard Vanagon chassis.  I've looked
into
this, and see a few stumbling blocks, but mainly these are labor-time
issues, rather than parts problems.   I have both a cutting torch and a
MIG
welder, so I'm not too worried.

An OM616 is a really tall engine, so it's not too compatible with the
Vanagon engine compartment. Oh, and not to mention, it's really
underpowered.  I'd think an OM602 turbo would be a nice setup for that
rig.
Might be too long, though...and too tall, still.

I've had no problem running B99 in sub-twenties temps, either my OM617 or
OM603 engines, so I don't think I'd worry too much about bio.

I don't think I quite need the capabilities of a Unimog, Pinzgauer, or
Haflinger, at this time.


Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
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Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread LarryT

You wrote:<>

You won't be unhappy with that choice!  I love ours - we've had it for 
almost a year and couldn;t ask for more.


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You're probably right, and the chance of finding a W201 turbo are slim to
none.  I'm sorta picky about colors and options, too.  We'll probably opt
for a W124 2.5 as a compromise candidate.

On 12/2/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



That there conjunction is your problem.  And.  Make that OR, and
maybe you've got yourself something.

I'm semi-serious.  If you have the front seats set comfortably
for median sized adult legroom there's nothing in the back.  If
you have a legless man in front, then you've got decent legroom
in back.  It's nearly an either-or proposition, and the rear seat
is IMHO only slightly better than that found in a 107 SL.  It's
a little wider, anyway.

To my way of thinking, it's almost a 2+2, not a 4-seater.  Try
one out before you leap through hoops to acquire one, especially
the rare 2.5 turbo.



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Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
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Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread degcoast
Ditto to Larry-
I have had my 90 300D 2.5t for a year and it is a fine car-no regrets. Fast and 
31 mpg Great commuter car-my commute is 72 miles each way, 2-3 days a week.
Dwight Giles
(who still hangs on to  his 240D)
 LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> You wrote:<>
> 
> You won't be unhappy with that choice!  I love ours - we've had it for 
> almost a year and couldn;t ask for more.
> 
>



Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-03 Thread Tyler Backman

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Casey,

I would be interested in knowing what the stumbling blocks are, if  
you have time. Do you think the syncro running gear could be  
installed on a pre-vanagon bus as easily? It might be worthwhile  
finding a diesel westfalia, and putting a syncro junkyard suspension  
on it if possible. A syncro westfalia can cost $20k or more without  
the diesel, way out of my budget range as a poor college student.


I'm not worried about power as most of the travel I do is limited to  
55mph or less anyways due to the poor road conditions, animals, etc.  
in the more remote parts of the world...


Yea, even the rabbit diesel which is tiny is mounted almost sideways  
in a diesel vanagon. I wonder how that affects engine longevity? I  
have seen VW buses with upright overhead cam inline engines, but they  
usually build a nasty looking box where the valve cover sticks out.  
That wouldn't be a problem if that area were only used for storage  
and not for a westfalia bed... I suppose a 4cyl VW diesel is best, as  
it will fit easily and bellhousings are available. I'm just scared of  
going into a remote area with an aluminum head and a Bosch VE rotary  
injection pump, as both have left me stranded without warning in the  
past. I suppose waterless/pressureless propylene glycol coolant  
coupled with an audible alarm on the head temp sensor could prevent  
any head warpage issues. A spare junkyard VE pump can be had for $20,  
and the tools to replace it roadside for $150.


Don't get me wrong- I'm not trying to diss biodiesel. I am making my  
career out of promoting biodiesel, and spent all of last summer  
building an automated commercial biodiesel plant. Using biodiesel in  
cold weather is highly dependent on your feedstock, and it's hard to  
tell what that might be if your biodiesel is made from used  
restaurant fryer grease. A feedstock oil that is almost entirely  
monounsaturated such as canola oil will work down into the 20s, but  
if the feedstock contains saturated fats such as palm oil or bacon  
grease it can have a gel point well above freezing. None of them work  
in the sub zero temperatures that I often encounter snow  camping and  
cross country skiing unless you cut them with kerosene.


Tyler

On Dec 2, 2006, at 11:23 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:

Most of the Syncro running gear is a ladder frame design which for  
the most
part is simply bolted up to the standard Vanagon chassis.  I've  
looked into

this, and see a few stumbling blocks, but mainly these are labor-time
issues, rather than parts problems.   I have both a cutting torch  
and a MIG

welder, so I'm not too worried.

An OM616 is a really tall engine, so it's not too compatible with the
Vanagon engine compartment. Oh, and not to mention, it's really
underpowered.  I'd think an OM602 turbo would be a nice setup for  
that rig.

Might be too long, though...and too tall, still.

I've had no problem running B99 in sub-twenties temps, either my  
OM617 or

OM603 engines, so I don't think I'd worry too much about bio.

I don't think I quite need the capabilities of a Unimog, Pinzgauer, or
Haflinger, at this time.

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Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-04 Thread David Brodbeck
Tyler Backman wrote:
> I would be interested in knowing what the stumbling blocks are, if  
> you have time. Do you think the syncro running gear could be  
> installed on a pre-vanagon bus as easily

That's a major project.  Among other things, the Bus is considerably
narrower than the Vanagon.  I've seen it done, but they essentially cut
and sectioned the Bus body shell to make it bigger and then placed it on
the Vanagon floorpan.



Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-04 Thread Zeitgeist

A Syncro setup can be bolted up to a 2WD Vanagon, but the stumbling block
comes from the fact that the factory mounts for the front suspension must be
torched out in order to accommodate the 4WD attachment points--so, there's
no going back once you've started.  Additionally, relocating and mounting
the fuel tank above the tranny takes some modifications.  You essentially
require an entire donor chassis in order to pull it off correctly.

Mounting a Syncro assembly into a T2 bus seems way beyond what I'd ever want
to tackle, and a T3 chassis is far far superior anyway.

The 1.9L IDI engine can be reliably modified to approximately 150hp, so
there's plenty of power available, which should help to increase longevity
in a Van.  The VE pump isn't as robust as the inline versions, but I've
never had a single instance of failure in my dozen or so VW/Cummins engines,
so I'm not too worried about them.   They're simple and relatively easy to
work on should one need to...unlike the inline pumps.  Any rig I'd use out
in the boonies would have a full complement of gauges, so monitoring the
engine conditions would be key.  I drove down to nearly the Guatemalan
border and back in a '70 T2 with idiot lights and a handful of tools and
spares, so I ain't too worried about the ruggedness of these units.  They
can handle it.
On 12/3/06, Tyler Backman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Casey,

I would be interested in knowing what the stumbling blocks are, if
you have time. Do you think the syncro running gear could be
installed on a pre-vanagon bus as easily? It might be worthwhile
finding a diesel westfalia, and putting a syncro junkyard suspension
on it if possible.



Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG


Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I now seem to have 2 91 300D 2.5 turbos.  None for sale at the moment 
though.


Zeitgeist wrote:


I'm testing the waters to see if I can locate a suitable replacement for my
wife's reliable but aging and ugly W123.

Criteria:

I'd like to find something a bit newer and with some safety equipment, like
ABS and airbags.  Additionally, I'd like the vehicle to get better fuel
mileage (diesel, of course).  I'd like to spend < $7k

Candidates (in order of preference):

1 - '87 190D 2.5 turbo
2 - '90-'93 300D 2.5 turbo
3 - '87 300D/TD
4 - '96-'97 Passat tdi

Anyone know of a suitable vehicle meeting these criteria?

TIA


--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-05 Thread Sunil Hari

that's like a kid saying "Oh, seems to me I have a surplus of candy.  NONE
FOR YOU!"

On 12/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I now seem to have 2 91 300D 2.5 turbos.  None for sale at the moment
though.

Zeitgeist wrote:

> I'm testing the waters to see if I can locate a suitable replacement for
my
> wife's reliable but aging and ugly W123.
>
> Criteria:
>
> I'd like to find something a bit newer and with some safety equipment,
like
> ABS and airbags.  Additionally, I'd like the vehicle to get better fuel
> mileage (diesel, of course).  I'd like to spend < $7k
>
> Candidates (in order of preference):
>
> 1 - '87 190D 2.5 turbo
> 2 - '90-'93 300D 2.5 turbo
> 3 - '87 300D/TD
> 4 - '96-'97 Passat tdi
>
> Anyone know of a suitable vehicle meeting these criteria?
>
> TIA

--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
  87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

hahahahahaha, yea, that was sort of my aim :)

Sunil Hari wrote:


that's like a kid saying "Oh, seems to me I have a surplus of candy.  NONE
FOR YOU!"

On 12/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-05 Thread Zeitgeist

Whudda turkey...

On 12/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


hahahahahaha, yea, that was sort of my aim :)



Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG


Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-05 Thread Sunil Hari

Kaleb, you're a jerk.  Got any parts for me?

On 12/4/06, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Whudda turkey...

On 12/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hahahahahaha, yea, that was sort of my aim :)
>
>
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
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Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-05 Thread Hendrik Riessen
I think Kaleb is on a fishing expedition, get some interest going before 
putting a ridiculous price on them.

Commonly called a car tease.
Pretty soon he'll post a pic or two.

- Original Message - 
From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig



that's like a kid saying "Oh, seems to me I have a surplus of candy.  NONE
FOR YOU!"

On 12/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I now seem to have 2 91 300D 2.5 turbos.  None for sale at the moment
though.

Zeitgeist wrote:

> I'm testing the waters to see if I can locate a suitable replacement 
> for

my
> wife's reliable but aging and ugly W123.
>
> Criteria:
>
> I'd like to find something a bit newer and with some safety equipment,
like
> ABS and airbags.  Additionally, I'd like the vehicle to get better fuel
> mileage (diesel, of course).  I'd like to spend < $7k
>
> Candidates (in order of preference):
>
> 1 - '87 190D 2.5 turbo
> 2 - '90-'93 300D 2.5 turbo
> 3 - '87 300D/TD
> 4 - '96-'97 Passat tdi
>
> Anyone know of a suitable vehicle meeting these criteria?
>
> TIA

--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
  87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

what parts do you need?

Sunil Hari wrote:

Kaleb, you're a jerk.  Got any parts for me?

On 12/4/06, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Whudda turkey...

On 12/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


hahahahahaha, yea, that was sort of my aim :)




Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

2006-12-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Naw, the one I just got, or rather, got back, was my old 2.5 that I had 
a couple of years ago.  Not quite as pristine as when it left but I will 
get it back into shape.  The other one is getting an engine transplant, 
so its not ready to go yet.


Hendrik Riessen wrote:

I think Kaleb is on a fishing expedition, get some interest going before 
putting a ridiculous price on them.

Commonly called a car tease.
Pretty soon he'll post a pic or two.

- Original Message - 
From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig




that's like a kid saying "Oh, seems to me I have a surplus of candy.  NONE
FOR YOU!"

On 12/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I now seem to have 2 91 300D 2.5 turbos.  None for sale at the moment
though.

Zeitgeist wrote:


I'm testing the waters to see if I can locate a suitable replacement 
for


my


wife's reliable but aging and ugly W123.

Criteria:

I'd like to find something a bit newer and with some safety equipment,


like


ABS and airbags.  Additionally, I'd like the vehicle to get better fuel
mileage (diesel, of course).  I'd like to spend < $7k

Candidates (in order of preference):

1 - '87 190D 2.5 turbo
2 - '90-'93 300D 2.5 turbo
3 - '87 300D/TD
4 - '96-'97 Passat tdi

Anyone know of a suitable vehicle meeting these criteria?

TIA


--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net