Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
I do. First MB I owned, and chose it over the Volvo mainly due to looks (and the marque, of course!) Dan On Jan 25, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Um, me:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish? On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote: Well not up there with w111 for sure. My favorite driver is my w124 but I think it is almost ugly compared to earlier setues. No offense to Bruno Saco. On Jan 24, 2014 9:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Not bad, but not all that great either. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well. On Jan 24, 2014 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever designed. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one out in a crowd. Dan On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote: I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on one black sedan. Black is the only color I would have. R Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional - same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate them. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car. If you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking rear view. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Me too. On Jan 26, 2014 9:49 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Um, me:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish? On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Well not up there with w111 for sure. My favorite driver is my w124 but I think it is almost ugly compared to earlier setues. No offense to Bruno Saco. On Jan 24, 2014 9:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Not bad, but not all that great either. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well. On Jan 24, 2014 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever designed. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one out in a crowd. Dan On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote: I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on one black sedan. Black is the only color I would have. R Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional - same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate them. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car. If you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking rear view. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo
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So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish? On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote: Well not up there with w111 for sure. My favorite driver is my w124 but I think it is almost ugly compared to earlier setues. No offense to Bruno Saco. On Jan 24, 2014 9:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Not bad, but not all that great either. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well. On Jan 24, 2014 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever designed. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one out in a crowd. Dan On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote: I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on one black sedan. Black is the only color I would have. R Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional - same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate them. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car. If you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking rear view. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Fo sho. I loved my wagon, wouldn't mind having another. Angie and I have talked about driving across the US and if we did my top vehicle would be a 123 wagon. Of course I'd buy a nice one and have it totally gone over before the trip. -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:08:40 -0500 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is Message-ID: CAC35L=s6c_vduhrdcwtnqshaskxdie1cjbg+mdoo+vsvkjk...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Andrew wrote: So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish? I think W123 is stylish. Wagon is totally stylish. People don't realize these are cars are 30 years old. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is shiny
Well yeah I suppose for wagon, which is also very functional. Speaking of functional, this really comes out in the 124, with very little chrome trim (hint). People like shiny things. Personally I thing the 114 coupe is nicer than the 123 coupe but the 124 coupe is not to my liking. Hendrik who misses the chrome On 26/01/14 13:38, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish? On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote: Well not up there with w111 for sure. My favorite driver is my w124 but I think it is almost ugly compared to earlier setues. No offense to Bruno Saco. On Jan 24, 2014 9:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Not bad, but not all that great either. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mine starts at 5 degrees sans block heater, even though the starter shrieks after it fires up. On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Fo sho. I loved my wagon, wouldn't mind having another. Angie and I have talked about driving across the US and if we did my top vehicle would be a 123 wagon. Of course I'd buy a nice one and have it totally gone over before the trip. -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:08:40 -0500 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is Message-ID: CAC35L=s6c_vduhrdcwtnqshaskxdie1cjbg+mdoo+vsvkjk...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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+1 Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. 1985 300TD 1987 300TD From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jan 25, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish? I liked the 123 wagon since the first time I saw one on Hart to Hart or whatever that Robert Wagner show was. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on one black sedan. Black is the only color I would have. R Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional - same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate them. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car. If you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking rear view. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one out in a crowd. Dan On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote: I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on one black sedan. Black is the only color I would have. R Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional - same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate them. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car. If you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking rear view. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever designed. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one out in a crowd. Dan On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote: I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on one black sedan. Black is the only color I would have. R Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional - same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate them. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car. If you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking rear view. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well. On Jan 24, 2014 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever designed. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one out in a crowd. Dan On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote: I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on one black sedan. Black is the only color I would have. R Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional - same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate them. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car. If you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking rear view. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Not bad, but not all that great either. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote: Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well. On Jan 24, 2014 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever designed. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one out in a crowd. Dan On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote: I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on one black sedan. Black is the only color I would have. R Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional - same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate them. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car. If you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking rear view. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well not up there with w111 for sure. My favorite driver is my w124 but I think it is almost ugly compared to earlier setues. No offense to Bruno Saco. On Jan 24, 2014 9:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Not bad, but not all that great either. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well. On Jan 24, 2014 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever designed. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one out in a crowd. Dan On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote: I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on one black sedan. Black is the only color I would have. R Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional - same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate them. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car. If you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking rear view. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Crappy styling began in earnest with the W126 line IMHO, although I am not a fan of the finnies or the W114/5 sedans or coupes which are too boxy/clunky in my view On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:17 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I think the big styling change happened with the 124 and 140 - and it's been down hill since. The 114/5 and 116 were not too drastic a change from the past. All the rest bear little resemblance to a real Mercedes. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Why would you want a car to look like the Notre Dame cathedral? Seriously though 35 tears ago the 'new S class' did look like that but consider that now you can buy an S class that looks like that, for not many beans. Also probably back in 1979 or whenever the wraps came off the 126, there would have been some hardcore fans complaining about the 'modern' looks of the new S and probably saying stuff like the 108/8 was the last real Merc, blah blah blah Hendrik who will not be placing an order for new S class -- OK Don Who will not be buying another MB until he gets tired of working on aircraft or can't fly any more. The C182A made it's first flight with the new alternator today - it's wonderful to be back in the air again! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Crappy styling began in earnest with the W126 line IMHO, although I am not a fan of the finnies or the W114/5 sedans or coupes which are too boxy/clunky in my view 110/111/112 were not designed to be beautiful. They were designed to be practical. Think back to where Germany was in 1958. only 13 years after total annihilation. A practical car for a practical people. Wat did detriot iron look like in 1958? Boxy. What did all 1958 cars look like, except the Karmann Ghia and a few sports cars? Boxy. 110s were a car for their time. They still are admirable 50 some years later. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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While the 108/114 models were stylish in a very reserved way, I think, the 110/111/112 models had what I consider understated elegance. Looking at the fins and the sweep of the roof, I don't perceive the 110/111/112 as being boxy. Dan On Jan 23, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Crappy styling began in earnest with the W126 line IMHO, although I am not a fan of the finnies or the W114/5 sedans or coupes which are too boxy/clunky in my view 110/111/112 were not designed to be beautiful. They were designed to be practical. Think back to where Germany was in 1958. only 13 years after total annihilation. A practical car for a practical people. Wat did detriot iron look like in 1958? Boxy. What did all 1958 cars look like, except the Karmann Ghia and a few sports cars? Boxy. 110s were a car for their time. They still are admirable 50 some years later. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car. If you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking rear view. While the 108/114 models were stylish in a very reserved way, I think, the 110/111/112 models had what I consider understated elegance. Looking at the fins and the sweep of the roof, I don't perceive the 110/111/112 as being boxy. Dan On Jan 23, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Crappy styling began in earnest with the W126 line IMHO, although I am not a fan of the finnies or the W114/5 sedans or coupes which are too boxy/clunky in my view 110/111/112 were not designed to be beautiful. They were designed to be practical. Think back to where Germany was in 1958. only 13 years after total annihilation. A practical car for a practical people. Wat did detriot iron look like in 1958? Boxy. What did all 1958 cars look like, except the Karmann Ghia and a few sports cars? Boxy. 110s were a car for their time. They still are admirable 50 some years later. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional - same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate them. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car. If you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking rear view. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Why would you want a car to look like the Notre Dame cathedral? Seriously though 35 tears ago the 'new S class' did look like that but consider that now you can buy an S class that looks like that, for not many beans. Also probably back in 1979 or whenever the wraps came off the 126, there would have been some hardcore fans complaining about the 'modern' looks of the new S and probably saying stuff like the 108/8 was the last real Merc, blah blah blah Hendrik who will not be placing an order for new S class On 22/01/14 05:43, Dieselhead wrote: or does this look like it was designed by Aston Martin? http://mbworld.org/articles/meet-concept-s-class-coupe/ Whatever, I would not turn one down. --R Not that they'd listen, but I'd like a new S class to look something like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/auto-clasico-mallorca/4944812596/in/faves-kayser_soze_126/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think the big styling change happened with the 124 and 140 - and it's been down hill since. The 114/5 and 116 were not too drastic a change from the past. All the rest bear little resemblance to a real Mercedes. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Why would you want a car to look like the Notre Dame cathedral? Seriously though 35 tears ago the 'new S class' did look like that but consider that now you can buy an S class that looks like that, for not many beans. Also probably back in 1979 or whenever the wraps came off the 126, there would have been some hardcore fans complaining about the 'modern' looks of the new S and probably saying stuff like the 108/8 was the last real Merc, blah blah blah Hendrik who will not be placing an order for new S class -- OK Don Who will not be buying another MB until he gets tired of working on aircraft or can't fly any more. The C182A made it's first flight with the new alternator today - it's wonderful to be back in the air again! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com