Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-26 Thread Dan Penoff
I do.  First MB I owned, and chose it over the Volvo mainly due to looks (and 
the marque, of course!)

Dan

On Jan 25, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish?
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-26 Thread dseretakis
Um, me:)

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 25, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish?
 
 
 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Well not up there with  w111 for sure. My favorite driver is my w124 but I
 think it is almost ugly compared to earlier setues. No offense to Bruno
 Saco.
 On Jan 24, 2014 9:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Not bad, but not all that great either.
 
 
 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well.
 On Jan 24, 2014 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever
 designed.
 
 
 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick
 one
 out
 in a crowd.
 
 Dan
 
 On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote:
 
 I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have
 seen
 on
 one black sedan.  Black is the only color I would have.
 
 R
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure
 cosmetic
 appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not
 functional -
 same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960.
 Hate
 them.
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 
 126die...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The
 110/111
 fins
 may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a
 beautiful
 car.
 If
 you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
 attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look
 like
 they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a
 good
 looking
 rear view.
 
 
 --
 OK Don
 They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
 temporary
 safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
 1775
 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death
 and
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 - Benjamin Franklin 1789
 2013 F150, 18 mpg
 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-26 Thread Dwight Giles
Me too.
On Jan 26, 2014 9:49 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Um, me:)

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 25, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish?
 
 
  On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Well not up there with  w111 for sure. My favorite driver is my w124
 but I
  think it is almost ugly compared to earlier setues. No offense to Bruno
  Saco.
  On Jan 24, 2014 9:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Not bad, but not all that great either.
 
 
  On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well.
  On Jan 24, 2014 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever
  designed.
 
 
  On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
  The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick
  one
  out
  in a crowd.
 
  Dan
 
  On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote:
 
  I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have
  seen
  on
  one black sedan.  Black is the only color I would have.
 
  R
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
  From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
  Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
  The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure
  cosmetic
  appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not
  functional -
  same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960.
  Hate
  them.
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 
  126die...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The
  110/111
  fins
  may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a
  beautiful
  car.
  If
  you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
  attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look
  like
  they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a
  good
  looking
  rear view.
 
 
  --
  OK Don
  They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
  temporary
  safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
  1775
  in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death
  and
  taxes.
  - Benjamin Franklin 1789
  2013 F150, 18 mpg
  2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
  1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish?


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well not up there with  w111 for sure. My favorite driver is my w124 but I
 think it is almost ugly compared to earlier setues. No offense to Bruno
 Saco.
 On Jan 24, 2014 9:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Not bad, but not all that great either.
 
 
  On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well.
   On Jan 24, 2014 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever
 designed.
   
   
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
   
 The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick
 one
   out
 in a crowd.

 Dan

  On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote:
 
  I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have
 seen
   on
  one black sedan.  Black is the only color I would have.
 
  R
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
  From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
  Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
  The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure
   cosmetic
  appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not
   functional -
  same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960.
 Hate
  them.
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 
 126die...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The
  110/111
fins
  may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a
 beautiful
   car.
 If
  you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
  attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look
   like
  they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a
 good
 looking
  rear view.
 
 
 
 
  --
  OK Don
  They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
  temporary
  safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
  1775
  in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death
 and
  taxes.
  - Benjamin Franklin 1789
  2013 F150, 18 mpg
  2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
  1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Fo sho. I loved my wagon, wouldn't mind having another. Angie and I have talked 
about driving across the US and if we did my top vehicle would be a 123 wagon. 
Of course I'd buy a nice one and have it totally gone over before the trip.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:08:40 -0500
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-25 Thread Mountain Man
Andrew wrote:
 So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish?


I think W123 is stylish.
Wagon is totally stylish.
People don't realize these are cars are 30 years old.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is shiny

2014-01-25 Thread Hendrik and Fay

Well yeah I suppose for wagon, which is also very functional.
Speaking of functional, this really comes out in the 124, with very 
little chrome trim (hint).

People like shiny things.
Personally I thing the 114 coupe is nicer than the 123 coupe but the 124 
coupe is not to my liking.


Hendrik
who misses the chrome

On 26/01/14 13:38, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish?


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote:


Well not up there with  w111 for sure. My favorite driver is my w124 but I
think it is almost ugly compared to earlier setues. No offense to Bruno
Saco.
On Jan 24, 2014 9:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:


Not bad, but not all that great either.


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com

wrote:
Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well.



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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Mine starts at 5 degrees sans block heater, even though the starter shrieks
after it fires up.


On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Fo sho. I loved my wagon, wouldn't mind having another. Angie and I have
 talked about driving across the US and if we did my top vehicle would be a
 123 wagon. Of course I'd buy a nice one and have it totally gone over
 before the trip.

 -Curt

 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:08:40 -0500
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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-25 Thread Frederick Moir
+1
 
Fred Moir 
Lynn MA 
Diesel preferred.
1985 300TD
1987 300TD



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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-25 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 25, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 So who besides me thinks the W123 station wagon is stylish?


I liked the 123 wagon since the first time I saw one on Hart to Hart or 
whatever that Robert Wagner show was. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-24 Thread r
 I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on
one black sedan.  Black is the only color I would have.

R
 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic
appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional -
same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate
them.


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
wrote:

 The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins
 may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car. If
 you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
 attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like
 they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking
 rear view.




--
OK Don
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safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and
taxes.
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-24 Thread Dan Penoff
The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one out in a 
crowd.

Dan

 On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote:
 
 I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on
 one black sedan.  Black is the only color I would have.
 
 R
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic
 appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional -
 same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate
 them.
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins
 may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car. If
 you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
 attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like
 they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking
 rear view.
 
 
 
 
 --
 OK Don
 They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
 safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and
 taxes.
 - Benjamin Franklin 1789
 2013 F150, 18 mpg
 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever designed.


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one out
 in a crowd.

 Dan

  On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote:
 
  I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on
  one black sedan.  Black is the only color I would have.
 
  R
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
  From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
  Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
  The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic
  appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional -
  same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate
  them.
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins
  may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car.
 If
  you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
  attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like
  they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good
 looking
  rear view.
 
 
 
 
  --
  OK Don
  They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
  safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
  in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and
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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-24 Thread Dwight Giles
Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well.
On Jan 24, 2014 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever designed.


 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

  The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one out
  in a crowd.
 
  Dan
 
   On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote:
  
   I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on
   one black sedan.  Black is the only color I would have.
  
   R
    Original Message 
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
   From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
   Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm
   To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  
   The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic
   appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional -
   same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate
   them.
  
  
   On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111
 fins
   may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car.
  If
   you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
   attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like
   they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good
  looking
   rear view.
  
  
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Not bad, but not all that great either.


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well.
 On Jan 24, 2014 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever designed.
 
 
  On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
   The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one
 out
   in a crowd.
  
   Dan
  
On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote:
   
I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen
 on
one black sedan.  Black is the only color I would have.
   
R
 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
   
The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure
 cosmetic
appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not
 functional -
same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate
them.
   
   
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111
  fins
may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful
 car.
   If
you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look
 like
they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good
   looking
rear view.
   
   
   
   
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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-24 Thread Dwight Giles
Well not up there with  w111 for sure. My favorite driver is my w124 but I
think it is almost ugly compared to earlier setues. No offense to Bruno
Saco.
On Jan 24, 2014 9:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not bad, but not all that great either.


 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well.
  On Jan 24, 2014 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever designed.
  
  
   On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
  
The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one
  out
in a crowd.
   
Dan
   
 On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote:

 I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen
  on
 one black sedan.  Black is the only color I would have.

 R
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

 The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure
  cosmetic
 appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not
  functional -
 same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate
 them.


 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The
 110/111
   fins
 may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful
  car.
If
 you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
 attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look
  like
 they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good
looking
 rear view.




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 1775
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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Crappy styling began in earnest with the W126 line IMHO, although I am not
a fan of the finnies or the W114/5 sedans or coupes which are too
boxy/clunky in my view


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:17 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think the big styling change happened with the 124 and 140 - and it's
 been down hill since. The 114/5 and 116 were not too drastic a change from
 the past. All the rest bear little resemblance to a real Mercedes.


 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Why would you want a car to look like the Notre Dame cathedral?
  Seriously though 35 tears ago the 'new S class' did look like that but
  consider that now you can buy an S class that looks like that, for not
 many
  beans.
  Also probably back in 1979 or whenever the wraps came off the 126, there
  would have been some hardcore fans complaining about the 'modern' looks
 of
  the new S and probably saying stuff like the 108/8 was the last real
 Merc,
  blah blah blah
 
  Hendrik
  who will not be placing an order for new S class
 


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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-23 Thread Dieselhead

Crappy styling began in earnest with the W126 line IMHO, although I am not
a fan of the finnies or the W114/5 sedans or coupes which are too
boxy/clunky in my view



110/111/112 were not designed to be beautiful.  They were designed to 
be practical.  Think back to where Germany was in 1958.  only 13 
years after total annihilation.  A practical car for a practical 
people.


Wat did detriot iron look like in 1958?  Boxy.  What did all 1958 
cars look like, except the Karmann Ghia and a few sports cars?  Boxy. 
110s were a car for their time.   They still are admirable 50 some 
years later.


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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-23 Thread Dan Penoff
While the 108/114 models were stylish in a very reserved way, I think, the 
110/111/112 models had what I consider understated elegance.

Looking at the fins and the sweep of the roof, I don't perceive the 110/111/112 
as being boxy.

Dan

On Jan 23, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Crappy styling began in earnest with the W126 line IMHO, although I am not
 a fan of the finnies or the W114/5 sedans or coupes which are too
 boxy/clunky in my view
 
 
 110/111/112 were not designed to be beautiful.  They were designed to be 
 practical.  Think back to where Germany was in 1958.  only 13 years after 
 total annihilation.  A practical car for a practical people.
 
 Wat did detriot iron look like in 1958?  Boxy.  What did all 1958 cars look 
 like, except the Karmann Ghia and a few sports cars?  Boxy. 110s were a car 
 for their time.   They still are admirable 50 some years later.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-23 Thread Dieselhead
The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars.   The 110/111 
fins may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a 
beautiful car.  If you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 
220S/230S/SE is very attractive.   The early 110s with the 
trapezoidal tail lights look like they are winking at you.  The 
200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking rear view.



While the 108/114 models were stylish in a very reserved way, I 
think, the 110/111/112 models had what I consider understated 
elegance.


Looking at the fins and the sweep of the roof, I don't perceive the 
110/111/112 as being boxy.


Dan

On Jan 23, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 Crappy styling began in earnest with the W126 line IMHO, although I am not
 a fan of the finnies or the W114/5 sedans or coupes which are too
 boxy/clunky in my view



 110/111/112 were not designed to be beautiful.  They were designed 
to be practical.  Think back to where Germany was in 1958.  only 13 
years after total annihilation.  A practical car for a practical 
people.


 Wat did detriot iron look like in 1958?  Boxy.  What did all 1958 
cars look like, except the Karmann Ghia and a few sports cars? 
Boxy. 110s were a car for their time.   They still are admirable 50 
some years later.


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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-23 Thread OK Don
The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic
appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional -
same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate them.


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars.   The 110/111 fins
 may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car.  If
 you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
 attractive.   The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like
 they are winking at you.  The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking
 rear view.




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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-22 Thread Hendrik and Fay

Why would you want a car to look like the Notre Dame cathedral?
Seriously though 35 tears ago the 'new S class' did look like that but 
consider that now you can buy an S class that looks like that, for not 
many beans.
Also probably back in 1979 or whenever the wraps came off the 126, there 
would have been some hardcore fans complaining about the 'modern' looks 
of the new S and probably saying stuff like the 108/8 was the last real 
Merc, blah blah blah


Hendrik
who will not be placing an order for new S class

On 22/01/14 05:43, Dieselhead wrote:

or does this look like it was designed by Aston Martin?
http://mbworld.org/articles/meet-concept-s-class-coupe/

Whatever, I would not turn one down.

--R


Not that they'd listen, but I'd like a new S class to look something 
like this:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/auto-clasico-mallorca/4944812596/in/faves-kayser_soze_126/ 







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2014-01-22 Thread OK Don
I think the big styling change happened with the 124 and 140 - and it's
been down hill since. The 114/5 and 116 were not too drastic a change from
the past. All the rest bear little resemblance to a real Mercedes.


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why would you want a car to look like the Notre Dame cathedral?
 Seriously though 35 tears ago the 'new S class' did look like that but
 consider that now you can buy an S class that looks like that, for not many
 beans.
 Also probably back in 1979 or whenever the wraps came off the 126, there
 would have been some hardcore fans complaining about the 'modern' looks of
 the new S and probably saying stuff like the 108/8 was the last real Merc,
 blah blah blah

 Hendrik
 who will not be placing an order for new S class



-- 
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