Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-23 Thread Dan Penoff
Would have been good advertising if I was looking for work.

Dan

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On Apr 22, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote:

 That's amazing work... But I'd have driven it around with half the hood
 polished for a few days, just to see people react.
 
 Best,
 Tim
 

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-23 Thread Dan Penoff
If it was that easy...

The choice of products and processes is really dictated by the condition of the 
finish.  It's difficult at best to suggest that what I used on this car would 
work well on another.

Considering that when you get this aggressive you're taking some of the paint 
or clear coat off in the process, you have to be very careful about what you 
use and how you go about using it.

I would not be this aggressive on a two stage paint (clear coat/base coat) as 
there would be a significant risk of polishing through the clear coat.

That's what I like about single stage paints - there is usually enough paint 
that you can get aggressive and have something to work with. The older MB 
paints of the 60s and 70s are like this - they like to get chalky and oxidize, 
but there is so much material there it's easy to polish the finish out and 
recover it nicely.

What you can't see on the S500 is the paint condition, which is pretty lousy. 
Lots of hairline cracks, scratches, etc., that aren't through the paint but are 
present in the surface. A repaint is truly the only way to fully recover the 
surface, but for mere cosmetics what I have done will suffice.

Dan

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On Apr 22, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 That is amazing.  Can you put together a list of all the products you use, 
 when to use them etc?
 
 
 On 4/21/2013 10:37 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!
 
 See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so 
 bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money trying 
 to resurrect that.
 
 http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html
 
 Booyah!
 
 Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-23 Thread Dan Penoff
3M Imperial Hand Glaze is good stuff, and something that works well for more 
modern vehicles with clear coat finishes, especially dark finishes that easily 
show swirl marks.

Understand that a glaze is essentially a very fine compound used to fill 
scratches after polishing. It's not a wax.

If you want to wax a car using 3M products, I recommend their Perfect-It Show 
Car Wax. Excellent stuff and very easy to apply.

Dan

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On Apr 22, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:46:55 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 That's what the Collinite 845 is.  Well known in the detailing
 business, Collinite 845 was originally designed to be used on high
 voltage insulators, which have to be kept as clean as possible to
 minimize collection of dirt which can allow conductive paths on the
 surfaces.
 
 It's amazingly good stuff, and while not cheap, a 16 ounce bottle will
 last several years or more if you apply it correctly.
 
 Collinite has been around for many years and is pretty much a family
 business, a lot like George at Leatherique.  Another reason why I like
 to patronize them.
 
 What about 3M Imperial Hand Glaze?
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-23 Thread Craig
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:59:46 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 That's what I like about single stage paints - there is usually enough
 paint that you can get aggressive and have something to work with. The
 older MB paints of the 60s and 70s are like this - they like to get
 chalky and oxidize, but there is so much material there it's easy to
 polish the finish out and recover it nicely.

I found that true on our '72 220D/8. With Classic Car Wax (which
apparently is no longer made) I could get it looking just wonderful,
though it took a lot of hand work.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Max Dillon
Very nice!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!

See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was
so bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money
trying to resurrect that.

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html

Booyah!

Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread WILTON

I'd say that's worth at least half a dozen ATTABOYS!

Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:37 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Martha Returns!



The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!

See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so 
bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money 
trying to resurrect that.


http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html

Booyah!

Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas

That is quite amazing how well it improves.

On another note, tell me why you select a black background for your web 
pages.


--R


On 4/21/13 11:37 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!

See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so bad according 
to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money trying to resurrect 
that.

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html

Booyah!

Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Rusty Cullens
2 questions. How long did this take? When are you coming to Atlanta? 



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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:37 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!

See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so
bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money trying
to resurrect that.

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html

Booyah!

Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
1.) It took about 3-4 hours at a leisurely pace to do half of the hood.  I'm 
doing the rest of it today between my Nurse Ratched duties.

2.) Whenever you want to bring me up.  Got a car in mind?

As for the black backgrounds on my web page, I've done it for many years.  No 
particular reason, just like the contrast, I guess.  I really need to redesign 
my whole web site, but I don't really have the motivation, to be honest.  I'm 
not a social media sort of person, and I communicate directly with most people, 
so it doesn't really serve a purpose as far as I'm concerned.

On Apr 22, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote:

 2 questions. How long did this take? When are you coming to Atlanta? 
 

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
My curiosity on the black background is because it gives me a headache 
(or eyeache maybe) after about 30sec of looking at a page like that.  I 
just wondered if that was just me, or if some found it beneficial or 
liked it or something.  I don't get it, thought maybe I was missing some 
deeper computerish meaning.


--R


On 4/22/13 1:44 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

1.) It took about 3-4 hours at a leisurely pace to do half of the hood.  I'm 
doing the rest of it today between my Nurse Ratched duties.

2.) Whenever you want to bring me up.  Got a car in mind?

As for the black backgrounds on my web page, I've done it for many years.  No 
particular reason, just like the contrast, I guess.  I really need to redesign 
my whole web site, but I don't really have the motivation, to be honest.  I'm 
not a social media sort of person, and I communicate directly with most people, 
so it doesn't really serve a purpose as far as I'm concerned.

On Apr 22, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote:


2 questions. How long did this take? When are you coming to Atlanta?


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
You want I should change it to white?

It's a template in iWeb I used for a long time.  There are others, but they 
were all sort of from-froo and I just wanted something simple.

Dan

On Apr 22, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

 My curiosity on the black background is because it gives me a headache (or 
 eyeache maybe) after about 30sec of looking at a page like that.  I just 
 wondered if that was just me, or if some found it beneficial or liked it or 
 something.  I don't get it, thought maybe I was missing some deeper 
 computerish meaning.
 
 --R
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas

Unless you put up some more great stuff, don't change it on my account!

--R


On 4/22/13 2:12 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

You want I should change it to white?

It's a template in iWeb I used for a long time.  There are others, but they 
were all sort of from-froo and I just wanted something simple.

Dan

On Apr 22, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:


My curiosity on the black background is because it gives me a headache (or 
eyeache maybe) after about 30sec of looking at a page like that.  I just 
wondered if that was just me, or if some found it beneficial or liked it or 
something.  I don't get it, thought maybe I was missing some deeper computerish 
meaning.

--R




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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
I doubt it. After talking to three or four professional detailer, and I use 
the term only to describe someone who is making a living doing this, none of 
them really seemed interested in recovery work.  I suspect there is too much 
time required, and it's likely that someone who has a car in this bad of shape 
either won't care or doesn't have the money to invest in recovering the finish.

Another aspect to consider that will play out over time is how long the finish 
will stay this way. I have no idea if upon exposure to the elements that it may 
revert back to the former condition.  Hopefully, it will take some time. This 
is not something I would want to be doing every month or two (but I would if 
necessary.)

Dan

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On Apr 22, 2013, at 12:51 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 Wow!
 
 Are you going to take it back to the detailing shop and show them the
 results of your work?
 
 
 Craig
 

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Pretty amazing looking!  You have a right to be proud of this
transformation!

Greg

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Penoff
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:37 PM
To: Mercedes List
Subject: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!

See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so
bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money trying
to resurrect that.

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html

Booyah!

Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread WILTON
I know you're gonna try to preserve it as long as you can with some good 
wax.


Wilton

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Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!


I doubt it. After talking to three or four professional detailer, and I 
use the term only to describe someone who is making a living doing this, 
none of them really seemed interested in recovery work.  I suspect there is 
too much time required, and it's likely that someone who has a car in this 
bad of shape either won't care or doesn't have the money to invest in 
recovering the finish.


Another aspect to consider that will play out over time is how long the 
finish will stay this way. I have no idea if upon exposure to the elements 
that it may revert back to the former condition.  Hopefully, it will take 
some time. This is not something I would want to be doing every month or 
two (but I would if necessary.)


Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 22, 2013, at 12:51 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:


Wow!

Are you going to take it back to the detailing shop and show them the
results of your work?


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
That's what the Collinite 845 is.  Well known in the detailing business, 
Collinite 845 was originally designed to be used on high voltage insulators, 
which have to be kept as clean as possible to minimize collection of dirt which 
can allow conductive paths on the surfaces.

It's amazingly good stuff, and while not cheap, a 16 ounce bottle will last 
several years or more if you apply it correctly.

Collinite has been around for many years and is pretty much a family business, 
a lot like George at Leatherique.  Another reason why I like to patronize them.

Dan


On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:31 PM, WILTON wrote:

 I know you're gonna try to preserve it as long as you can with some good wax.
 
 Wilton
 


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread WILTON

Maybe some of the rest of us would like to get some Collinite 845.

Wilton

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Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!


That's what the Collinite 845 is.  Well known in the detailing business, 
Collinite 845 was originally designed to be used on high voltage 
insulators, which have to be kept as clean as possible to minimize 
collection of dirt which can allow conductive paths on the surfaces.


It's amazingly good stuff, and while not cheap, a 16 ounce bottle will 
last several years or more if you apply it correctly.


Collinite has been around for many years and is pretty much a family 
business, a lot like George at Leatherique.  Another reason why I like to 
patronize them.


Dan


On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:31 PM, WILTON wrote:

I know you're gonna try to preserve it as long as you can with some good 
wax.


Wilton




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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
Google is your friend as always, but here is a link to their web site:

http://www.collinite.com/automotive-wax/insulator-wax/

There is a technique to preparing it that is not discussed on their web site.  
It has a thick, almost gelatinous texture, which makes it tough to use right 
out of the bottle.  Before using, you put it in a container of hot water for 
about 5-10 minutes to warm it up and make it homogenous.  If you don't do this 
it's really difficult to use.

I have always been a hard core 3M person, but this stuff is really good and 
does as good of not better than the 3M Perfect-It Show Car Wax™.

Dan


On Apr 22, 2013, at 4:03 PM, WILTON wrote:

 Maybe some of the rest of us would like to get some Collinite 845.
 
 Wilton
 


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
Correction.  They do make reference to using the warm water bath in their 
literature as a If you want it to be thinner.  Trust me, you do.

Dan


On Apr 22, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

 Google is your friend as always, but here is a link to their web site:
 
 http://www.collinite.com/automotive-wax/insulator-wax/
 
 There is a technique to preparing it that is not discussed on their web site. 
  It has a thick, almost gelatinous texture, which makes it tough to use right 
 out of the bottle.  Before using, you put it in a container of hot water for 
 about 5-10 minutes to warm it up and make it homogenous.  If you don't do 
 this it's really difficult to use.
 
 I have always been a hard core 3M person, but this stuff is really good and 
 does as good of not better than the 3M Perfect-It Show Car Wax™.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Apr 22, 2013, at 4:03 PM, WILTON wrote:
 
 Maybe some of the rest of us would like to get some Collinite 845.
 
 Wilton
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That is amazing.  Can you put together a list of all the products 
you use, when to use them etc?



On 4/21/2013 10:37 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!

See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so bad according 
to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money trying to resurrect 
that.

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html

Booyah!

Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Rusty Cullens
My 1991 560SEC looks very similar to your car but not as bad, I was thinking
of trying this route. So to do the while car we're looking at probably 48
hours?


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

1.) It took about 3-4 hours at a leisurely pace to do half of the hood.  I'm
doing the rest of it today between my Nurse Ratched duties.

2.) Whenever you want to bring me up.  Got a car in mind?

As for the black backgrounds on my web page, I've done it for many years.
No particular reason, just like the contrast, I guess.  I really need to
redesign my whole web site, but I don't really have the motivation, to be
honest.  I'm not a social media sort of person, and I communicate directly
with most people, so it doesn't really serve a purpose as far as I'm
concerned.

On Apr 22, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote:

 2 questions. How long did this take? When are you coming to Atlanta? 
 

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Craig
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:46:55 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 That's what the Collinite 845 is.  Well known in the detailing
 business, Collinite 845 was originally designed to be used on high
 voltage insulators, which have to be kept as clean as possible to
 minimize collection of dirt which can allow conductive paths on the
 surfaces.
 
 It's amazingly good stuff, and while not cheap, a 16 ounce bottle will
 last several years or more if you apply it correctly.
 
 Collinite has been around for many years and is pretty much a family
 business, a lot like George at Leatherique.  Another reason why I like
 to patronize them.

What about 3M Imperial Hand Glaze?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
No, I would say maybe 12-15 hours for someone who knows what they are doing. If 
your 560 isn't as bad as my S500, less than that

Send it down to me for a week or two and I'll sort it out.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 22, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Rusty Cullens rustycull...@gmail.com wrote:

 My 1991 560SEC looks very similar to your car but not as bad, I was thinking
 of trying this route. So to do the while car we're looking at probably 48
 hours?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
 Penoff
 Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 1:44 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!
 
 1.) It took about 3-4 hours at a leisurely pace to do half of the hood.  I'm
 doing the rest of it today between my Nurse Ratched duties.
 
 2.) Whenever you want to bring me up.  Got a car in mind?
 
 As for the black backgrounds on my web page, I've done it for many years.
 No particular reason, just like the contrast, I guess.  I really need to
 redesign my whole web site, but I don't really have the motivation, to be
 honest.  I'm not a social media sort of person, and I communicate directly
 with most people, so it doesn't really serve a purpose as far as I'm
 concerned.
 
 On Apr 22, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote:
 
 2 questions. How long did this take? When are you coming to Atlanta?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Rusty Cullens

Sweet! I'll see what I can do.


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From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:08:03 
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

No, I would say maybe 12-15 hours for someone who knows what they are doing. If 
your 560 isn't as bad as my S500, less than that

Send it down to me for a week or two and I'll sort it out.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 22, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Rusty Cullens rustycull...@gmail.com wrote:

 My 1991 560SEC looks very similar to your car but not as bad, I was thinking
 of trying this route. So to do the while car we're looking at probably 48
 hours?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
 Penoff
 Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 1:44 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!
 
 1.) It took about 3-4 hours at a leisurely pace to do half of the hood.  I'm
 doing the rest of it today between my Nurse Ratched duties.
 
 2.) Whenever you want to bring me up.  Got a car in mind?
 
 As for the black backgrounds on my web page, I've done it for many years.
 No particular reason, just like the contrast, I guess.  I really need to
 redesign my whole web site, but I don't really have the motivation, to be
 honest.  I'm not a social media sort of person, and I communicate directly
 with most people, so it doesn't really serve a purpose as far as I'm
 concerned.
 
 On Apr 22, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote:
 
 2 questions. How long did this take? When are you coming to Atlanta?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
That is amazing.  Can you put together a list of all the products 
you use, when to use them etc?


he could, but maybe then he'd have to snuff you out.   Gotta protect 
the knowledge ya know...


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Tim Crone
That's amazing work... But I'd have driven it around with half the hood
polished for a few days, just to see people react.

Best,
Tim
On Apr 21, 2013 11:37 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!

 See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so
 bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money trying
 to resurrect that.

 http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html

 Booyah!

 Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread Dieselhead

That's amazing work... But I'd have driven it around with half the hood
polished for a few days, just to see people react.

Best,
Tim


Yabbut, Dan is confined to the barracks for a while.

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-22 Thread dseretakis
Awesome job!

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 21, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!
 
 See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so 
 bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money trying 
 to resurrect that.
 
 http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html
 
 Booyah!
 
 Dan/Martha
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[MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-21 Thread Dan Penoff
The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!

See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so bad 
according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money trying to 
resurrect that.

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html

Booyah!

Dan/Martha
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-21 Thread Dieselhead

To echo Wilton: Attaboy!

I'd like to bring you my white 240D.



The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!

See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which 
was so bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting 
your money trying to resurrect that.


http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html

Booyah!

Dan/Martha


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!

2013-04-21 Thread Craig
On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:37:16 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance!
 
 See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was
 so bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money
 trying to resurrect that.
 
 http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html

Wow!

Are you going to take it back to the detailing shop and show them the
results of your work?


Craig

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