Re: [MBZ] Mercedes rust proofing
Eastwood sells them for car applications - great way to prevent cylinder damage - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes rust proofing Cosmoline. head smack I couldn't remember the name of the stuff at the time. You can probably find this or something similar at an industrial engine supply house, or possibly a truck supply place that would deal with industrial engines like pumps or compressors. Cosmoline is pretty heavy duty stuff, and not something I would put on a working engine or engine compartment. It's meant as a moisture barrier and intended for long term storage. On a related note, there are some really cool things that aircraft engine manufacturers sell now for long term storage on Lycoming and other air-cooled aviation engines. They're plastic tubes that screw into the spark plug ports, and inside the tubes is a dessicant that absorbs any moisture that might form in the cylinder while the engine is mothballed. I'm sure you could use them for long term (such as winter) storage on an automobile engine, too. Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dan, I read in the manual that Mercedes use and wax based oil for rust protection in the engine bay. I see traces of it in mine. I've done such a good just of cleaning the engine or grease and crud, I want to protect it with something (outside) as the car is subjected very salty roads in the winter, and parked outside. I know I'm planning ahead, but summer passes fast. :-( Ed 300E On 15/06/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't recall the name, but it's typically applied by spraying. It was also impregnated in heavy paper for wrapping parts to prevent corrosion. Phillips makes a very good preservative oil you can add to the crankcase - it's used by the aviation industry for pickling engines, and I have used it on industrial engines that were pickled as well. It's called Phillips Multi-Viscosity Anti-Rust Oil and is sold by the gallon. It can be used as a break-in oil as well. I used to write long term storage procedures for stationary industrial engines - what are you looking to do? Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if the dealer sells that wax type stuff they often use in the engine bay to protect against rust? If so, how is it applied? Is it a spray on, or liquid? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.17/850 - Release Date: 6/15/2007 11:31 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes rust proofing
I don't recall the name, but it's typically applied by spraying. It was also impregnated in heavy paper for wrapping parts to prevent corrosion. Phillips makes a very good preservative oil you can add to the crankcase - it's used by the aviation industry for pickling engines, and I have used it on industrial engines that were pickled as well. It's called Phillips Multi-Viscosity Anti-Rust Oil and is sold by the gallon. It can be used as a break-in oil as well. I used to write long term storage procedures for stationary industrial engines - what are you looking to do? Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if the dealer sells that wax type stuff they often use in the engine bay to protect against rust? If so, how is it applied? Is it a spray on, or liquid? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes rust proofing
Hi Dan, I read in the manual that Mercedes use and wax based oil for rust protection in the engine bay. I see traces of it in mine. I've done such a good just of cleaning the engine or grease and crud, I want to protect it with something (outside) as the car is subjected very salty roads in the winter, and parked outside. I know I'm planning ahead, but summer passes fast. :-( Ed 300E On 15/06/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't recall the name, but it's typically applied by spraying. It was also impregnated in heavy paper for wrapping parts to prevent corrosion. Phillips makes a very good preservative oil you can add to the crankcase - it's used by the aviation industry for pickling engines, and I have used it on industrial engines that were pickled as well. It's called Phillips Multi-Viscosity Anti-Rust Oil and is sold by the gallon. It can be used as a break-in oil as well. I used to write long term storage procedures for stationary industrial engines - what are you looking to do? Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if the dealer sells that wax type stuff they often use in the engine bay to protect against rust? If so, how is it applied? Is it a spray on, or liquid? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes rust proofing
Cosmoline. head smack I couldn't remember the name of the stuff at the time. You can probably find this or something similar at an industrial engine supply house, or possibly a truck supply place that would deal with industrial engines like pumps or compressors. Cosmoline is pretty heavy duty stuff, and not something I would put on a working engine or engine compartment. It's meant as a moisture barrier and intended for long term storage. On a related note, there are some really cool things that aircraft engine manufacturers sell now for long term storage on Lycoming and other air-cooled aviation engines. They're plastic tubes that screw into the spark plug ports, and inside the tubes is a dessicant that absorbs any moisture that might form in the cylinder while the engine is mothballed. I'm sure you could use them for long term (such as winter) storage on an automobile engine, too. Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dan, I read in the manual that Mercedes use and wax based oil for rust protection in the engine bay. I see traces of it in mine. I've done such a good just of cleaning the engine or grease and crud, I want to protect it with something (outside) as the car is subjected very salty roads in the winter, and parked outside. I know I'm planning ahead, but summer passes fast. :-( Ed 300E On 15/06/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't recall the name, but it's typically applied by spraying. It was also impregnated in heavy paper for wrapping parts to prevent corrosion. Phillips makes a very good preservative oil you can add to the crankcase - it's used by the aviation industry for pickling engines, and I have used it on industrial engines that were pickled as well. It's called Phillips Multi-Viscosity Anti-Rust Oil and is sold by the gallon. It can be used as a break-in oil as well. I used to write long term storage procedures for stationary industrial engines - what are you looking to do? Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if the dealer sells that wax type stuff they often use in the engine bay to protect against rust? If so, how is it applied? Is it a spray on, or liquid? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes rust proofing
Thanks again, something to keep in mind for when the 911 goes away. You seem to know a lot about long term storage. Just curious, do they ever put any of those planes out in the Arizona desert back into service, or are they stored more to harvest parts from? Ed 300E On 15/06/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cosmoline. head smack I couldn't remember the name of the stuff at the time. You can probably find this or something similar at an industrial engine supply house, or possibly a truck supply place that would deal with industrial engines like pumps or compressors. Cosmoline is pretty heavy duty stuff, and not something I would put on a working engine or engine compartment. It's meant as a moisture barrier and intended for long term storage. On a related note, there are some really cool things that aircraft engine manufacturers sell now for long term storage on Lycoming and other air-cooled aviation engines. They're plastic tubes that screw into the spark plug ports, and inside the tubes is a dessicant that absorbs any moisture that might form in the cylinder while the engine is mothballed. I'm sure you could use them for long term (such as winter) storage on an automobile engine, too. Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dan, I read in the manual that Mercedes use and wax based oil for rust protection in the engine bay. I see traces of it in mine. I've done such a good just of cleaning the engine or grease and crud, I want to protect it with something (outside) as the car is subjected very salty roads in the winter, and parked outside. I know I'm planning ahead, but summer passes fast. :-( Ed 300E On 15/06/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't recall the name, but it's typically applied by spraying. It was also impregnated in heavy paper for wrapping parts to prevent corrosion. Phillips makes a very good preservative oil you can add to the crankcase - it's used by the aviation industry for pickling engines, and I have used it on industrial engines that were pickled as well. It's called Phillips Multi-Viscosity Anti-Rust Oil and is sold by the gallon. It can be used as a break-in oil as well. I used to write long term storage procedures for stationary industrial engines - what are you looking to do? Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if the dealer sells that wax type stuff they often use in the engine bay to protect against rust? If so, how is it applied? Is it a spray on, or liquid? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes rust proofing
Dan, My question might be similar to Ed's-I am concerned about the corrosion rust under hood of all of my cars because I live near salt water. I se a lot of white corrosion in the engine compartments, esp. on the aluminum. Fellow RI lister John Peterson uses some kind of marine rust retardant spray on his 300D. All suggestions appreciated, as I need to clean the engines and protect them both summer and winter. Thanks, Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 5:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes rust proofing Cosmoline. head smack I couldn't remember the name of the stuff at the time. You can probably find this or something similar at an industrial engine supply house, or possibly a truck supply place that would deal with industrial engines like pumps or compressors. Cosmoline is pretty heavy duty stuff, and not something I would put on a working engine or engine compartment. It's meant as a moisture barrier and intended for long term storage. On a related note, there are some really cool things that aircraft engine manufacturers sell now for long term storage on Lycoming and other air-cooled aviation engines. They're plastic tubes that screw into the spark plug ports, and inside the tubes is a dessicant that absorbs any moisture that might form in the cylinder while the engine is mothballed. I'm sure you could use them for long term (such as winter) storage on an automobile engine, too. Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dan, I read in the manual that Mercedes use and wax based oil for rust protection in the engine bay. I see traces of it in mine. I've done such a good just of cleaning the engine or grease and crud, I want to protect it with something (outside) as the car is subjected very salty roads in the winter, and parked outside. I know I'm planning ahead, but summer passes fast. :-( Ed 300E On 15/06/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't recall the name, but it's typically applied by spraying. It was also impregnated in heavy paper for wrapping parts to prevent corrosion. Phillips makes a very good preservative oil you can add to the crankcase - it's used by the aviation industry for pickling engines, and I have used it on industrial engines that were pickled as well. It's called Phillips Multi-Viscosity Anti-Rust Oil and is sold by the gallon. It can be used as a break-in oil as well. I used to write long term storage procedures for stationary industrial engines - what are you looking to do? Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if the dealer sells that wax type stuff they often use in the engine bay to protect against rust? If so, how is it applied? Is it a spray on, or liquid? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes rust proofing
On 15/06/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again, something to keep in mind for when the 911 goes away. You seem to know a lot about long term storage. Just curious, do they ever put any of those planes out in the Arizona desert back into service, or are they stored more to harvest parts from? Ed 300E Ed, I saw a show on PBS a while back, it's available on their website I think, that shows them putting the newer-ish ones into flight readiness to be sold to a foreign countryusually Middle East or developing Some are in a long term standby... Jeff Zedic
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes rust proofing
If you're talking about AMARG, the Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group at Davis Monthan AFB in Arizona. What a wonderful place to wander around in, if you ever get the opportunity. For the most part, the only parts left to the elements are the fuselage and major metal parts, as they will suffer very little corrosion in the dry desert air. Avionics, engines, hydraulics and fuel systems are all removed, disassembled, tested, cleaned and cataloged for future use if they are for an airframe that's still in service. Most of what is there is Vietnam era stuff for the most part. Lots of B-52s, etc., even the occasional surplus rocket from NASA or Vandenburg AFB can be found laying around. I believe there is a museum adjacent to the base that takes tours of the storage area. Dunno myself - the times I was there I was working with the A-10 and EC-130 folks based there. Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again, something to keep in mind for when the 911 goes away. You seem to know a lot about long term storage. Just curious, do they ever put any of those planes out in the Arizona desert back into service, or are they stored more to harvest parts from? Ed 300E On 15/06/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cosmoline. head smack I couldn't remember the name of the stuff at the time. You can probably find this or something similar at an industrial engine supply house, or possibly a truck supply place that would deal with industrial engines like pumps or compressors. Cosmoline is pretty heavy duty stuff, and not something I would put on a working engine or engine compartment. It's meant as a moisture barrier and intended for long term storage. On a related note, there are some really cool things that aircraft engine manufacturers sell now for long term storage on Lycoming and other air-cooled aviation engines. They're plastic tubes that screw into the spark plug ports, and inside the tubes is a dessicant that absorbs any moisture that might form in the cylinder while the engine is mothballed. I'm sure you could use them for long term (such as winter) storage on an automobile engine, too. Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dan, I read in the manual that Mercedes use and wax based oil for rust protection in the engine bay. I see traces of it in mine. I've done such a good just of cleaning the engine or grease and crud, I want to protect it with something (outside) as the car is subjected very salty roads in the winter, and parked outside. I know I'm planning ahead, but summer passes fast. :-( Ed 300E On 15/06/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't recall the name, but it's typically applied by spraying. It was also impregnated in heavy paper for wrapping parts to prevent corrosion. Phillips makes a very good preservative oil you can add to the crankcase - it's used by the aviation industry for pickling engines, and I have used it on industrial engines that were pickled as well. It's called Phillips Multi-Viscosity Anti-Rust Oil and is sold by the gallon. It can be used as a break-in oil as well. I used to write long term storage procedures for stationary industrial engines - what are you looking to do? Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if the dealer sells that wax type stuff they often use in the engine bay to protect against rust? If so, how is it applied? Is it a spray on, or liquid? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
