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what the moto's going to be used for and where that's going to be makes a huge difference. while riding in SoCal again last week i noticed that when traffic is flowing freely on the fwys, it's typically around 80MPH. i've owned a variety of motos of different sizes and styles while growing up, but if i didn't have ample power to move about in and through traffic while cruising at those speeds and the necessary mass to be stable in the wind turbulence, i would not have been at all comfortable. personally, i endorse the idea that a mid-size enduro/dual-sport bike is the best starter for most new *adult* riders, due to the riding position, handling and weight distribution of the machine. interesting side note; SoCal traffic seems to consist of a much lower percentage of motorcycles when compared to here in the SF Bay Area, and the majority of those i saw were more toys (like Hardly/Cruisers and sporty-bikes) than true regular-use tools; i suppose the relative lack of awareness/consideration shown by the average motorist down there could be a factor,...? cheers! e '85 300D '02 BMW GS Adv Curt Raymond wrote: Around here a bike under 750cc is considered a starter bike to ride for a year until you graduate to a "real" bike. Thats crazy though. The 454 is plenty of bike to haul my 230# butt around. So then the argument is "I have to shift too much" which is naturally BS. Anyway what I'm getting at is if your ego doesn't need a bigger bike good deals can be had on smaller ones. I paid $750 for my wife's 454. -Curt
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Oh I am a weasel, Cool! On Jun 10, 2007, at 7:37 PM, Chris Kueny wrote: Clay, you weasel yourself into my heart. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback - Original Message - From: "Redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions Dan, what sort of riding do you want to do? I find this to be the best determinant of what bike I get. Doing dirt and trails, get one of those. Go fast rice riding is good for a crotch rocket, but not good for more than an hour, or you get really sore fast. Touring wants another bike. Just puttering around town will be fine for most bikes of any size. I tent to like the Beemers. They are built to last, hold value better than a Benz and have not had "quality issues". I really enjoyed working on mine and could take it for long or short rides in town or highway. I had a little R65 from 1981 with bikini fairing (k75s shield) and full saddle bags so I could do the touring without getting beat up. Corbin saddle for the rear to survive days on the road. The bike has a 5 gallon tank to keep you on the road for 300 miles before reserve. Like our Benz, you do need to keep on top of the scheduled maintenance. Better to figure out how yourself, since shop time is expensive. There is a riders association with magazine and lots and lots of rallies. OR just get any old bike for little cash and play with it until you figure out just what you really intend to do with a bike and graduate to ride that fits your riding style. clay On Jun 8, 2007, at 6:47 PM, LWB250 wrote: Yeah, I'm in the market and trying to get an idea of what to look for. I finish my endorsement class this weekend, and ideally I would like to find something decently priced in the 500cc - 750cc range for a starter bike. I'm aghast at the prices commanded by older bikes, even things as old as the 1980s, that bring thousands of dollars - almost what they cost when they were new. I've got an acquaintance at work that has a 1994 Yamaha Virago 1100 with around 46k on it. He's the second owner (I know the original owner as well) and has taken good care of it. He seems to think it's worth $2k, but in the same breath he tells me he's gotten no takers at that price. I would add that he has a GoldWing in the garage, too, but for some reason he's not terribly motivated to sell the Yamaha. It might be because the GW is i pieces, or so I've heard. I would probably offer him $1700 and go to $1800, max. I'm going to finish up my endorsement class this weekend and then pay him a visit on Wednesday next week to look over the Yamaha in more detail and take it for a test ride. I'm not keen about starting back on two wheels with such a big bike, but I'm not having a lot of luck finding anything smaller and decent in the area for under $2k. Dan __ __ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation +gifts&cs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I definitely do not want a bike that is a rocket ship. Power and speed don't necessarily go together, and I know the Yamaha is a fast bike, but I have no desire whatsoever to exceed the posted limit on any bike, big or small. I have researched the Viragos in detail, and the problems you mention were with the bikes made in the late 80s, the first few years of production. They had some known issues with starters and gear engagement, as well as some charging system issues, too. All of that was addressed and cured long before 1994, so it should not be an issue with the bike I'm considering. The older Hondas seem to command top dollar around here for some strange reason, and while they were my first choice, if I can buy a newer and larger displacement bike for the same or less, it doesn't make sense to go that route. We'll see... thanks to everyone for the suggestions, advice and opinions... Dan --- Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm the poster boy for "wrong first bike", an '82 > CB900f is always saying "I'm gonna kill you" every > second of every ride. > Its not that the bike is scary but theres so much > power available that you could easily twist that > throttle to oblivion. > But with the 454 its just cute and little and you > don't take it seriously, until you do something > stupid and it bites you. I've had some VERY close > calls on the 454. I'm MUCH more careful on my CB > because its always reminding me that it wants to > kill me. > > You know where you stand with a big bike, like bikes > are like dogs, all happy and wagging their tail > until it comes time... > > Maybe look for an older CB750 or CB900 custom. The f > like mine is a cafe racer, all hunched over the > tank. The custom is a standard but the 900 or 1000 > is a big frame bike, good for larger people. I'm 6', > 30" inseam and I can just sit my CB900, if I were > any smaller I'd be too short. > > The Virago is also a nice bike, slingback cruiser. > They are known for some charging issues but they're > also easy to work on and more reliable than the > status symbol bikes. > > -Curt > > Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 13:05:41 -0700 (PDT) > From: LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Ego doesn't play into it - my ability to ride and > operate it safely come first. > > If it was a n ego thing, I would be looking for a > nice > used Harley. Since the wife worked for them when we > lived in Wisconsin, we had loaner bikes all the > time. > Other than a short time in high school, I've never > ridden anything smaller than an 883. > > Before I go out and lay down some serious coin for a > (nice) bike of my own, I want to be totally > comfortable in my abilities. I would prefer to do > that on something that I can ride for a year or two > and get rid of or hand down to my youngest. > > Dan > > > - > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives > answers, not web links. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
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I'm the poster boy for "wrong first bike", an '82 CB900f is always saying "I'm gonna kill you" every second of every ride. Its not that the bike is scary but theres so much power available that you could easily twist that throttle to oblivion. But with the 454 its just cute and little and you don't take it seriously, until you do something stupid and it bites you. I've had some VERY close calls on the 454. I'm MUCH more careful on my CB because its always reminding me that it wants to kill me. You know where you stand with a big bike, like bikes are like dogs, all happy and wagging their tail until it comes time... Maybe look for an older CB750 or CB900 custom. The f like mine is a cafe racer, all hunched over the tank. The custom is a standard but the 900 or 1000 is a big frame bike, good for larger people. I'm 6', 30" inseam and I can just sit my CB900, if I were any smaller I'd be too short. The Virago is also a nice bike, slingback cruiser. They are known for some charging issues but they're also easy to work on and more reliable than the status symbol bikes. -Curt Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 13:05:41 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Ego doesn't play into it - my ability to ride and operate it safely come first. If it was a n ego thing, I would be looking for a nice used Harley. Since the wife worked for them when we lived in Wisconsin, we had loaner bikes all the time. Other than a short time in high school, I've never ridden anything smaller than an 883. Before I go out and lay down some serious coin for a (nice) bike of my own, I want to be totally comfortable in my abilities. I would prefer to do that on something that I can ride for a year or two and get rid of or hand down to my youngest. Dan - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 11 03:04:43 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=alnrmhc14.comcast.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HxaCw-0003I8-TR for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:04:42 + Received: from alnrmhc14.comcast.net ([206.18.177.54] helo=alnrmhc14.comcast.net) by ASSP.nospam; 11 Jun 2007 03:04:42 + Received: from kevlaptop (c-76-27-195-75.hsd1.or.comcast.net[76.27.195.75]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc14) with SMTP id <20070611030614b14003vb5ne>; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:06:35 + Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Kevin Kraly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:06:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Assp-Delay: not delayed (whitelisted); 11 Jun 2007 03:04:42 + X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes X-Assp-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Assp-Intended-For: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] new toy came home today X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:04:43 - I had an '85 Ford F350 crew cab 4spd manny with the Int'l/Navistar 6.9 Diesel. It had a hole in one of the sleves due to cavitation, but seemed to run very well anyway although it used oil and blew coolant everywhere under the hood. Luckily, it had already been rebuilt and was under warranty. Once rebuilt ***again***, it never had any problems during the remaining 4 years of ownership. What did this one of yours need to get going? Did it have problems starting and/or staying running? They come up for sale often as fixer uppers. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
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Screw stabil, its crap. Get some SeaFoam gas additive, that stuff is outstanding. If the carb works at all alot of times Seafoam can clean it out. The alternator on my CB900f is iffy sometimes too. In the rain it charges not at all... At some point it'll take a serious dump and I'll send the whole engine out for rebuild to somebody who specializes in CB electrics. -Curt Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 14:18:38 -0500 From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original > Around here a bike under 750cc is considered a starter bike to ride for a > year until you graduate to a "real" bike. > Thats crazy though. The 454 is plenty of bike to haul my 230# butt around. In 1980 I purchased a brand new Honda CB650. I still have it. I wanted a "starter" bike with plenty of power and one I wouldn't soon outgrow. I looked at Suzuki, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Honda. I have A 34 inch inseam and the Honda was the most comfortable. Although I now ride a HD Geezer-Glide, the Honda is still an enjoyable motorcycle. The only serious problems I have had are the carbs gumming up (shoulda used Stabil) and the alternator (Hondas of this era are infamous for that). Rick Knoble '07 HD Flhtcu '83 Honda GL1100a Aspencade '80 HD Flh '80 Honda CB650 '78 Yamaha Yz125 '68 HD Xlch - Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 11 02:44:24 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HxZsk-00023W-VI for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:44:24 + Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.33] helo=cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) by ASSP.nospam; 11 Jun 2007 02:43:50 + Received: from homekuj9d0l74k ([24.31.117.113]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:45:42 + Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Chris Kueny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:37:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Assp-Delay: not delayed (whitelisted); 11 Jun 2007 02:43:50 + X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes X-Assp-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Assp-Intended-For: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:44:25 - Clay, you weasel yourself into my heart. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback - Original Message - From: "Redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions > Dan, > > what sort of riding do you want to do? > > I find this to be the best determinant of what bike I get. Doing > dirt and trails, get one of those. Go fast rice riding is good for a > crotch rocket, but not good for more than an hour, or you get really > sore fast. Touring wants another bike. Just puttering around town > will be fine for most bikes of any size. > > I tent to like the Beemers. They are built to last, hold value > better than a Benz and have not had "quality issues". I really > enjoyed working on mine and could take it for long or short rides in > town or highway. I had a little R65 from 1981 with bikini fairing > (k75s shield) and full saddle bags so I could do the touring without > getting beat up. Corbin saddle for the rear to survive days on the > road. The bike has a 5 gallon tank to keep you on the ro
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i'd get the goldwing. in fact, given where fuel prices are and seem headed, i might just do that in any case. On 6/8/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah, I'm in the market and trying to get an idea of what to look for. I finish my endorsement class this weekend, and ideally I would like to find something decently priced in the 500cc - 750cc range for a starter bike. I'm aghast at the prices commanded by older bikes, even things as old as the 1980s, that bring thousands of dollars - almost what they cost when they were new. I've got an acquaintance at work that has a 1994 Yamaha Virago 1100 with around 46k on it. He's the second owner (I know the original owner as well) and has taken good care of it. He seems to think it's worth $2k, but in the same breath he tells me he's gotten no takers at that price. I would add that he has a GoldWing in the garage, too, but for some reason he's not terribly motivated to sell the Yamaha. It might be because the GW is i pieces, or so I've heard. I would probably offer him $1700 and go to $1800, max. I'm going to finish up my endorsement class this weekend and then pay him a visit on Wednesday next week to look over the Yamaha in more detail and take it for a test ride. I'm not keen about starting back on two wheels with such a big bike, but I'm not having a lot of luck finding anything smaller and decent in the area for under $2k. Dan Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think small dual sport bikes are about the best learners. They handle very well, very nimble and forgiving of a new riders common mistakes. That and if you have a place you can ride away from traffic until you feel comfortable. I know it's a terrible thought but the Chinese 200cc 4 strokers on E-bay for a grand or so brand new are a remarkable good deal for a good learner. Who cares if you beat it up learning..Sell it to a kid down the road when you are done with it for a trail bike for a small loss and spend your money on a nicer bike of whatever style you prefer. Mike - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Diesel List" Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions Around here a bike under 750cc is considered a starter bike to ride for a year until you graduate to a "real" bike. Thats crazy though. The 454 is plenty of bike to haul my 230# butt around. So then the argument is "I have to shift too much" which is naturally BS. Anyway what I'm getting at is if your ego doesn't need a bigger bike good deals can be had on smaller ones. I paid $750 for my wife's 454. -Curt Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 10:01:04 -0400 From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond wrote: My wife's bike is an '89 LTD 454 and its a hoot. You've got to remember, a late 70's-early 80's 450 could do the 1/4 mile in the low 14s, slightly quicker than a 911SC or a 500E. A newer 250, like a 250 Ninja, should be a good performer too. I took a test drive on a '81 GS450 around '84 or '85 when dealers were swimming in old inventory (they wanted $11xx for it brand new). When I shifted into 4th, not long after I took off, I looked down and the speedo was swinging past 90mph. My mid-70's CB200 was a bit marginal, even with a 125lb rider, top speed was 80 in neutral conditions, but a stiff headwind or hill could knock it down under 70. I would not be happy with a 16hp motorcycle today. I'd say that an old 350-500cc would make a fine starter bike, or maybe a 600 or 650 BMW. Wish I'd bought a Honda FT500 Ascot back in '86 when it was offered to me for $400. Quick enough and ~60mpg. If looking at more recent bikes, find out how fast a 250 is these days, it might be plenty and get 70+mpg. There's a low mile 250 Ninja near me, but they want $2600 for it. (a price I balked at in 1986 when it was on a new 500 Interceptor) If I ever find a nice R65LS BMW for $1500, I'll jump on it. Mitch. - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Jim, I agree, the Honda 750s were / are great around town machines. I owned an 83. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 6/9/07 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions > I've been on a lot of machines & the best ride still is a > Harley-Davidson > dresser or a BMW airhead (R bike) or oilhead (modern R bike). I'd ride > either of mine to Daytona Bike week (~700 miles) in one day and would > actually be able to walk when I climbed off the bike at the other end! My CB750F is about a hundred-miler. After that I'm ready to get off. My dad's K100, or brother's GW (either of them) are good for considerably longer in the saddle. With limited funds, however, I'd go for the cheaper bike and just not ride it so far. Save something for later! -- Jim
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Robert & Tara Ludwick wrote: > > You probably won't find one cheap, but if you can find a nice used > motoguzzi for a decent price, the things can't be beat There's an old Eldo for sale around here, $4950: http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CIML5070493
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You probably won't find one cheap, but if you can find a nice used motoguzzi for a decent price, the things can't be beat for overall riding. Predictable handling and long term comfort, and the things last. I has an 850 El Dorado that I put over a quarter million miles on ( the bike had near a half mil on it when it and me got crunched by some idiot running a stop , it was an old police bike when I got it) I did LA to Little Rock in under 2 days on one leisurly run. Only problem with the thing is they're generally pretty costy, and not easy to find unless there's a large volume dealer nearby. I had to do a 80 mile daily commute on a honda 350, 4cyl with a windjammer for a few months, that thing was scary torture. If you're only going to bop around town, little bikes are fine, but if you ever have to get on the freeway, make sure to get something big and solid. -Robert LWB250 wrote: Yeah, I'm in the market and trying to get an idea of what to look for. I finish my endorsement class this weekend, and ideally I would like to find something decently priced in the 500cc - 750cc range for a starter bike. I'm aghast at the prices commanded by older bikes, even things as old as the 1980s, that bring thousands of dollars - almost what they cost when they were new. I've got an acquaintance at work that has a 1994 Yamaha Virago 1100 with around 46k on it. He's the second owner (I know the original owner as well) and has taken good care of it. He seems to think it's worth $2k, but in the same breath he tells me he's gotten no takers at that price. I would add that he has a GoldWing in the garage, too, but for some reason he's not terribly motivated to sell the Yamaha. It might be because the GW is i pieces, or so I've heard. I would probably offer him $1700 and go to $1800, max. I'm going to finish up my endorsement class this weekend and then pay him a visit on Wednesday next week to look over the Yamaha in more detail and take it for a test ride. I'm not keen about starting back on two wheels with such a big bike, but I'm not having a lot of luck finding anything smaller and decent in the area for under $2k. Dan Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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IIRC, the retired trooper BMW interceptor bikes go for auction close to $2k clay On Jun 9, 2007, at 6:19 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Dan, In MA there are TONS of bikes for less than $1000. One you might look for is a Kawasaki LTD 454 or 750. My wife's bike is an '89 LTD 454 and its a hoot. Plenty of power, 32hp in a real small bike. Very good starter bike, very manuverable, starts easy, liquid cooled. I know of a Goldwing, '75 or '76 I forget, whichever is the first year of production. Owned by a GW fanatic, its in perfect shape, available for $1800 I think. That guy did fork seals on my wife's 454 and did a great job. I found the LTD or Craigslist. Put an ad up with what you want and your price range. -Curt Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 18:47:43 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Yeah, I'm in the market and trying to get an idea of what to look for. I finish my endorsement class this weekend, and ideally I would like to find something decently priced in the 500cc - 750cc range for a starter bike. I'm aghast at the prices commanded by older bikes, even things as old as the 1980s, that bring thousands of dollars - almost what they cost when they were new. I've got an acquaintance at work that has a 1994 Yamaha Virago 1100 with around 46k on it. He's the second owner (I know the original owner as well) and has taken good care of it. He seems to think it's worth $2k, but in the same breath he tells me he's gotten no takers at that price. I would add that he has a GoldWing in the garage, too, but for some reason he's not terribly motivated to sell the Yamaha. It might be because the GW is i pieces, or so I've heard. I would probably offer him $1700 and go to $1800, max. I'm going to finish up my endorsement class this weekend and then pay him a visit on Wednesday next week to look over the Yamaha in more detail and take it for a test ride. I'm not keen about starting back on two wheels with such a big bike, but I'm not having a lot of luck finding anything smaller and decent in the area for under $2k. Dan - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I guess the /5 has not taken on the mantle of classic the way the earles fork /2 did. Too bad. Really nice bikes and simple to work with. Then again all the old airheads are a dream. clay On Jun 8, 2007, at 8:12 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: Should be able to find a decent BMW /5 /6 /7 for under $2k. I will look in the BMWMOA news if you want to know what's there. Kinda like buying an 82 CVCC or buying a 123 300D. If you intend to actually USE it, the 300D is a better option. I might even be willing to sell my /5. At 08:47 PM 6/8/2007, you wrote: Yeah, I'm in the market and trying to get an idea of what to look for. I finish my endorsement class this weekend, and ideally I would like to find something decently priced in the 500cc - 750cc range for a starter bike. I'm aghast at the prices commanded by older bikes, even things as old as the 1980s, that bring thousands of dollars - almost what they cost when they were new. I've got an acquaintance at work that has a 1994 Yamaha Virago 1100 with around 46k on it. He's the second owner (I know the original owner as well) and has taken good care of it. He seems to think it's worth $2k, but in the same breath he tells me he's gotten no takers at that price. I would add that he has a GoldWing in the garage, too, but for some reason he's not terribly motivated to sell the Yamaha. It might be because the GW is i pieces, or so I've heard. I would probably offer him $1700 and go to $1800, max. I'm going to finish up my endorsement class this weekend and then pay him a visit on Wednesday next week to look over the Yamaha in more detail and take it for a test ride. I'm not keen about starting back on two wheels with such a big bike, but I'm not having a lot of luck finding anything smaller and decent in the area for under $2k. Dan _ ___ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation +gifts&cs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dan, what sort of riding do you want to do? I find this to be the best determinant of what bike I get. Doing dirt and trails, get one of those. Go fast rice riding is good for a crotch rocket, but not good for more than an hour, or you get really sore fast. Touring wants another bike. Just puttering around town will be fine for most bikes of any size. I tent to like the Beemers. They are built to last, hold value better than a Benz and have not had "quality issues". I really enjoyed working on mine and could take it for long or short rides in town or highway. I had a little R65 from 1981 with bikini fairing (k75s shield) and full saddle bags so I could do the touring without getting beat up. Corbin saddle for the rear to survive days on the road. The bike has a 5 gallon tank to keep you on the road for 300 miles before reserve. Like our Benz, you do need to keep on top of the scheduled maintenance. Better to figure out how yourself, since shop time is expensive. There is a riders association with magazine and lots and lots of rallies. OR just get any old bike for little cash and play with it until you figure out just what you really intend to do with a bike and graduate to ride that fits your riding style. clay On Jun 8, 2007, at 6:47 PM, LWB250 wrote: Yeah, I'm in the market and trying to get an idea of what to look for. I finish my endorsement class this weekend, and ideally I would like to find something decently priced in the 500cc - 750cc range for a starter bike. I'm aghast at the prices commanded by older bikes, even things as old as the 1980s, that bring thousands of dollars - almost what they cost when they were new. I've got an acquaintance at work that has a 1994 Yamaha Virago 1100 with around 46k on it. He's the second owner (I know the original owner as well) and has taken good care of it. He seems to think it's worth $2k, but in the same breath he tells me he's gotten no takers at that price. I would add that he has a GoldWing in the garage, too, but for some reason he's not terribly motivated to sell the Yamaha. It might be because the GW is i pieces, or so I've heard. I would probably offer him $1700 and go to $1800, max. I'm going to finish up my endorsement class this weekend and then pay him a visit on Wednesday next week to look over the Yamaha in more detail and take it for a test ride. I'm not keen about starting back on two wheels with such a big bike, but I'm not having a lot of luck finding anything smaller and decent in the area for under $2k. Dan __ __ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've been on a lot of machines & the best ride still is a Harley-Davidson dresser or a BMW airhead (R bike) or oilhead (modern R bike). I'd ride either of mine to Daytona Bike week (~700 miles) in one day and would actually be able to walk when I climbed off the bike at the other end! My CB750F is about a hundred-miler. After that I'm ready to get off. My dad's K100, or brother's GW (either of them) are good for considerably longer in the saddle. With limited funds, however, I'd go for the cheaper bike and just not ride it so far. Save something for later! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions (WAY OT)
I'm a former NIASE certified mechanic, so working on things is not an issue, either, meaning I could easily handle an older bike that might require work, too. 'Might'? :-) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions (WAY OT)
Ahh, if it were only that simple
I'm coming up on the last semester of college this
fall, so I'm not working full time. With that in
mind, I have (and will have) limited financial
resources to draw upon until probably fall 2008.
As a result, I have carefully collected about $2k in
"slush" funds that I can spend for bike, insurance and
related goodies. Knowing this and that the spouse and
I won't really start riding extensively for a couple
of years until the youngest is out of high school and
we can finally put our retirement plans in gear, I
don't want, nor can I afford to, buy a new or even
late model used bike.
My travels around here are fairly limited, for
instance, my fall internship will be at a school 9
miles away on country roads, so I figure that this
will be a good opportunity to get some quality time in
and regain and refine my skills in anticipation of
some serious touring in a few years.
I'm a former NIASE certified mechanic, so working on
things is not an issue, either, meaning I could easily
handle an older bike that might require work, too.
Dan
--- Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I bought my new ('07) bike, I could not believe
> it when the stealership
> told me of all the people that have NEVER ridden a
> motorcycle buying and
> riding new, full sized Harley's. Most folks, it
> seems, don't even have a
> motorcycle endorsement on their licenses. Since you
> are a former rider, I
> would say- get what you want, be careful and have a
> safe and enjoyable
> summer. You never forget how to ride, it's not
> "just" like riding a bike, it
> IS riding a bike. :>)
>
> Rick Knoble
> '85 300 CD
> '87 190 DT
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You can find pictures of my 92 FLHTCU here: http://www.hackpilot.com/ Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com Nice bike. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions (WAY OT)
Other than a short time in high school, I've never
ridden anything smaller than an 883.
Before I go out and lay down some serious coin for a
(nice) bike of my own, I want to be totally
comfortable in my abilities. I would prefer to do
that on something that I can ride for a year or two
and get rid of or hand down to my youngest.
When I bought my new ('07) bike, I could not believe it when the stealership
told me of all the people that have NEVER ridden a motorcycle buying and
riding new, full sized Harley's. Most folks, it seems, don't even have a
motorcycle endorsement on their licenses. Since you are a former rider, I
would say- get what you want, be careful and have a safe and enjoyable
summer. You never forget how to ride, it's not "just" like riding a bike, it
IS riding a bike. :>)
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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With modern engineering & design, you can no longer relate CC's to performance. My Son had a Honda 600R & it was the fastest bike I had ever rode. My 92 Harley FLHTCU (Ultra Classic Electraglide for you non-Harley people) or my 76 BMW R75/6 would not stand a chance against the Honda & the 76 BMW was a sports bike in its time! If you are considering new then the things to shop for are body posture, hand placement & balance. If you are older, riding a modern sport bike like my son's honda will kill your hands because the riding position will put constant pressure on your hands. I've been on a lot of machines & the best ride still is a Harley-Davidson dresser or a BMW airhead (R bike) or oilhead (modern R bike). I'd ride either of mine to Daytona Bike week (~700 miles) in one day and would actually be able to walk when I climbed off the bike at the other end! You can find pictures of my 92 FLHTCU here: http://www.hackpilot.com/ Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions The problem I have is that I'm almost 6'2", which can make finding a smaller bike that is ergonomically fit a real PITA. I'm doing my certification course this weekend, and we're using mostly 250cc bikes. Getting my legs and feet bent into positions where I can safely brake and shift is a serious challenge. That's one of the main reasons I want a larger displacement "starter" bike. I looked at a 250cc Yamaha Virago earlier this week that was a perfect bike as far as condition, but I couldn't ride it comfortably unless I wanted to sit on the passenger saddle. Dan --- Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Around here a bike under 750cc is considered a > starter bike to ride for a > > year until you graduate to a "real" bike. > > Thats crazy though. The 454 is plenty of bike to > haul my 230# butt around. > > In 1980 I purchased a brand new Honda CB650. I still have it. I wanted > a "starter" bike with plenty of power and one I wouldn't soon outgrow. > I looked at Suzuki, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Honda. I have A 34 inch > inseam and the Honda was the most comfortable. Although I now ride a > HD Geezer-Glide, the Honda is still an enjoyable motorcycle. The only > serious problems I have had are the carbs gumming up (shoulda used > Stabil) and the alternator (Hondas of this era are infamous for that). > > Rick Knoble > '07 HD Flhtcu > '83 Honda GL1100a Aspencade > '80 HD Flh > '80 Honda CB650 > '78 Yamaha Yz125 > '68 HD Xlch > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ego doesn't play into it - my ability to ride and operate it safely come first. If it was a n ego thing, I would be looking for a nice used Harley. Since the wife worked for them when we lived in Wisconsin, we had loaner bikes all the time. Other than a short time in high school, I've never ridden anything smaller than an 883. Before I go out and lay down some serious coin for a (nice) bike of my own, I want to be totally comfortable in my abilities. I would prefer to do that on something that I can ride for a year or two and get rid of or hand down to my youngest. Dan --- Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Around here a bike under 750cc is considered a > starter bike to ride for a year until you graduate > to a "real" bike. > Thats crazy though. The 454 is plenty of bike to > haul my 230# butt around. > So then the argument is "I have to shift too much" > which is naturally BS. > Anyway what I'm getting at is if your ego doesn't > need a bigger bike good deals can be had on smaller > ones. I paid $750 for my wife's 454. > > -Curt > > Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 10:01:04 -0400 > From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Curt Raymond wrote: > > > > My wife's bike is an '89 LTD 454 and its a hoot. > > You've got to remember, a late 70's-early 80's 450 > could do the > 1/4 mile in the low 14s, slightly quicker than a > 911SC or a 500E. > A newer 250, like a 250 Ninja, should be a good > performer too. > I took a test drive on a '81 GS450 around '84 or '85 > when > dealers were swimming in old inventory (they wanted > $11xx for > it brand new). When I shifted into 4th, not long > after I took off, > I looked down and the speedo was swinging past > 90mph. My mid-70's > CB200 was a bit marginal, even with a 125lb rider, > top speed was > 80 in neutral conditions, but a stiff headwind or > hill could knock > it down under 70. I would not be happy with a 16hp > motorcycle today. > > I'd say that an old 350-500cc would make a fine > starter bike, or > maybe a 600 or 650 BMW. Wish I'd bought a Honda > FT500 Ascot back > in '86 when it was offered to me for $400. Quick > enough and ~60mpg. > If looking at more recent bikes, find out how fast a > 250 is these > days, it might be plenty and get 70+mpg. There's a > low mile 250 > Ninja near me, but they want $2600 for it. (a price > I balked at > in 1986 when it was on a new 500 Interceptor) If I > ever find a > nice R65LS BMW for $1500, I'll jump on it. > > Mitch. > > > - > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html
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The problem I have is that I'm almost 6'2", which can make finding a smaller bike that is ergonomically fit a real PITA. I'm doing my certification course this weekend, and we're using mostly 250cc bikes. Getting my legs and feet bent into positions where I can safely brake and shift is a serious challenge. That's one of the main reasons I want a larger displacement "starter" bike. I looked at a 250cc Yamaha Virago earlier this week that was a perfect bike as far as condition, but I couldn't ride it comfortably unless I wanted to sit on the passenger saddle. Dan --- Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Around here a bike under 750cc is considered a > starter bike to ride for a > > year until you graduate to a "real" bike. > > Thats crazy though. The 454 is plenty of bike to > haul my 230# butt around. > > In 1980 I purchased a brand new Honda CB650. I still > have it. I wanted a > "starter" bike with plenty of power and one I > wouldn't soon outgrow. I > looked at Suzuki, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Honda. I have > A 34 inch inseam and > the Honda was the most comfortable. Although I now > ride a HD Geezer-Glide, > the Honda is still an enjoyable motorcycle. The only > serious problems I have > had are the carbs gumming up (shoulda used Stabil) > and the alternator > (Hondas of this era are infamous for that). > > Rick Knoble > '07 HD Flhtcu > '83 Honda GL1100a Aspencade > '80 HD Flh > '80 Honda CB650 > '78 Yamaha Yz125 > '68 HD Xlch > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
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--- Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should be able to find a decent BMW /5 /6 /7 for > under $2k. I will > look in the BMWMOA news if you want to know what's > there. Kinda like > buying an 82 CVCC or buying a 123 300D. If you > intend to actually > USE it, the 300D is a better option. I might even > be willing to sell my /5. That would be great - thanks! The market here is just insane. There is absolutely no rhyme or reason to the prices of older bikes from what I can see, which makes it even harder to figure out what's decent and what's not. As I mentioned, I have a chance to pick up this Yamaha Virago 1100, but it's far from a done deal. I would really like a smaller displacement bike to start out with if I can find one - even a BMW! Again, thanks! Dan Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
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Around here a bike under 750cc is considered a starter bike to ride for a year until you graduate to a "real" bike. Thats crazy though. The 454 is plenty of bike to haul my 230# butt around. In 1980 I purchased a brand new Honda CB650. I still have it. I wanted a "starter" bike with plenty of power and one I wouldn't soon outgrow. I looked at Suzuki, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Honda. I have A 34 inch inseam and the Honda was the most comfortable. Although I now ride a HD Geezer-Glide, the Honda is still an enjoyable motorcycle. The only serious problems I have had are the carbs gumming up (shoulda used Stabil) and the alternator (Hondas of this era are infamous for that). Rick Knoble '07 HD Flhtcu '83 Honda GL1100a Aspencade '80 HD Flh '80 Honda CB650 '78 Yamaha Yz125 '68 HD Xlch
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Curt Raymond wrote: > > My wife's bike is an '89 LTD 454 and its a hoot. You've got to remember, a late 70's-early 80's 450 could do the 1/4 mile in the low 14s, slightly quicker than a 911SC or a 500E. A newer 250, like a 250 Ninja, should be a good performer too. I took a test drive on a '81 GS450 around '84 or '85 when dealers were swimming in old inventory (they wanted $11xx for it brand new). When I shifted into 4th, not long after I took off, I looked down and the speedo was swinging past 90mph. My mid-70's CB200 was a bit marginal, even with a 125lb rider, top speed was 80 in neutral conditions, but a stiff headwind or hill could knock it down under 70. I would not be happy with a 16hp motorcycle today. I'd say that an old 350-500cc would make a fine starter bike, or maybe a 600 or 650 BMW. Wish I'd bought a Honda FT500 Ascot back in '86 when it was offered to me for $400. Quick enough and ~60mpg. If looking at more recent bikes, find out how fast a 250 is these days, it might be plenty and get 70+mpg. There's a low mile 250 Ninja near me, but they want $2600 for it. (a price I balked at in 1986 when it was on a new 500 Interceptor) If I ever find a nice R65LS BMW for $1500, I'll jump on it. Mitch.
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That would be great. If there is anything in the Tampa, FL area, I'm up for it. Thanks, Dan --- Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should be able to find a decent BMW /5 /6 /7 for > under $2k. I will > look in the BMWMOA news if you want to know what's > there. Kinda like > buying an 82 CVCC or buying a 123 300D. If you > intend to actually > USE it, the 300D is a better option. I might even > be willing to sell my /5. > > At 08:47 PM 6/8/2007, you wrote: > >Yeah, I'm in the market and trying to get an idea > of > >what to look for. > > > >I finish my endorsement class this weekend, and > >ideally I would like to find something decently > priced > >in the 500cc - 750cc range for a starter bike. > > > >I'm aghast at the prices commanded by older bikes, > >even things as old as the 1980s, that bring > thousands > >of dollars - almost what they cost when they were > new. > > > >I've got an acquaintance at work that has a 1994 > >Yamaha Virago 1100 with around 46k on it. He's the > >second owner (I know the original owner as well) > and > >has taken good care of it. He seems to think it's > >worth $2k, but in the same breath he tells me he's > >gotten no takers at that price. I would add that > he > >has a GoldWing in the garage, too, but for some > reason > >he's not terribly motivated to sell the Yamaha. It > >might be because the GW is i pieces, or so I've > heard. > > I would probably offer him $1700 and go to $1800, > >max. > > > >I'm going to finish up my endorsement class this > >weekend and then pay him a visit on Wednesday next > >week to look over the Yamaha in more detail and > take > >it for a test ride. I'm not keen about starting > back > >on two wheels with such a big bike, but I'm not > having > >a lot of luck finding anything smaller and decent > in > >the area for under $2k. > > > >Dan > > > > > > > > > > > >Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > >Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search > >http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz > > > >___ > >http://www.okiebenz.com > >For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > Loren Faeth > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
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A /5 through /7 BMW for under 2K would be a steal. I paid $2600 for my 1976 R75 /6 & believe I did well. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions Should be able to find a decent BMW /5 /6 /7 for under $2k. I will look in the BMWMOA news if you want to know what's there. Kinda like buying an 82 CVCC or buying a 123 300D. If you intend to actually USE it, the 300D is a better option. I might even be willing to sell my /5. At 08:47 PM 6/8/2007, you wrote: >Yeah, I'm in the market and trying to get an idea of >what to look for. > >I finish my endorsement class this weekend, and >ideally I would like to find something decently priced >in the 500cc - 750cc range for a starter bike. > >I'm aghast at the prices commanded by older bikes, >even things as old as the 1980s, that bring thousands >of dollars - almost what they cost when they were new. > >I've got an acquaintance at work that has a 1994 >Yamaha Virago 1100 with around 46k on it. He's the >second owner (I know the original owner as well) and >has taken good care of it. He seems to think it's >worth $2k, but in the same breath he tells me he's >gotten no takers at that price. I would add that he >has a GoldWing in the garage, too, but for some reason >he's not terribly motivated to sell the Yamaha. It >might be because the GW is i pieces, or so I've heard. > I would probably offer him $1700 and go to $1800, >max. > >I'm going to finish up my endorsement class this >weekend and then pay him a visit on Wednesday next >week to look over the Yamaha in more detail and take >it for a test ride. I'm not keen about starting back >on two wheels with such a big bike, but I'm not having >a lot of luck finding anything smaller and decent in >the area for under $2k. > >Dan > > > > >___ _ >Luggage? GPS? Comic books? >Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search >http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions
Should be able to find a decent BMW /5 /6 /7 for under $2k. I will look in the BMWMOA news if you want to know what's there. Kinda like buying an 82 CVCC or buying a 123 300D. If you intend to actually USE it, the 300D is a better option. I might even be willing to sell my /5. At 08:47 PM 6/8/2007, you wrote: Yeah, I'm in the market and trying to get an idea of what to look for. I finish my endorsement class this weekend, and ideally I would like to find something decently priced in the 500cc - 750cc range for a starter bike. I'm aghast at the prices commanded by older bikes, even things as old as the 1980s, that bring thousands of dollars - almost what they cost when they were new. I've got an acquaintance at work that has a 1994 Yamaha Virago 1100 with around 46k on it. He's the second owner (I know the original owner as well) and has taken good care of it. He seems to think it's worth $2k, but in the same breath he tells me he's gotten no takers at that price. I would add that he has a GoldWing in the garage, too, but for some reason he's not terribly motivated to sell the Yamaha. It might be because the GW is i pieces, or so I've heard. I would probably offer him $1700 and go to $1800, max. I'm going to finish up my endorsement class this weekend and then pay him a visit on Wednesday next week to look over the Yamaha in more detail and take it for a test ride. I'm not keen about starting back on two wheels with such a big bike, but I'm not having a lot of luck finding anything smaller and decent in the area for under $2k. Dan Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions
I'm aghast at the prices commanded by older bikes, even things as old as the 1980s, that bring thousands of dollars - almost what they cost when they were new. I bartered for my CB750F. Paid $450 for the trade goods, IIRC, and that wasn't a steal. Keep looking? -- Jim
[MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions
Yeah, I'm in the market and trying to get an idea of what to look for. I finish my endorsement class this weekend, and ideally I would like to find something decently priced in the 500cc - 750cc range for a starter bike. I'm aghast at the prices commanded by older bikes, even things as old as the 1980s, that bring thousands of dollars - almost what they cost when they were new. I've got an acquaintance at work that has a 1994 Yamaha Virago 1100 with around 46k on it. He's the second owner (I know the original owner as well) and has taken good care of it. He seems to think it's worth $2k, but in the same breath he tells me he's gotten no takers at that price. I would add that he has a GoldWing in the garage, too, but for some reason he's not terribly motivated to sell the Yamaha. It might be because the GW is i pieces, or so I've heard. I would probably offer him $1700 and go to $1800, max. I'm going to finish up my endorsement class this weekend and then pay him a visit on Wednesday next week to look over the Yamaha in more detail and take it for a test ride. I'm not keen about starting back on two wheels with such a big bike, but I'm not having a lot of luck finding anything smaller and decent in the area for under $2k. Dan Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz
