Re: [MBZ] Nice W108 Rolling Chassis

2014-08-07 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
i had a 73 (or maybe it was a 72?) - scary fast?   you bet!  mine would 
chirp the tires when it hit passing gear -   of course it only got 14-15 
mpg on its best day.   i would spend all day getting the ignition just 
right and still only got 14-15!


but on the open highway at 75 or more and it was like riding on air - 
the smoothest, yet firmest suspension i've ever know before or since.


I sold it for around $3k in 86 or 87 and have always regretted it - even 
though i still can't afford to put gas in it.   But I dearly loved 
driving that monster!   It always made me wonder what a pre-war 500K was 
like on the Autobahn  ...


Now, /thanks to one of you/, ;-) I can't stop thinking about that 
W108 roller and what it'd be like with a ~450HP crate engine and a 
modern 5 speed   Yeah, around $20K should cover the engine, tranny 
and engineering necessary


LarryT

On 8/7/2014 6:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
The hp number is a misprint -- the hp rating for my 72 4.5L is 232, 
I'd guess an engine 1/3 larger would have at least 1/3 more hp, so 
think 375, which is more like the reality.


Those cars were scary fast, and the engines were usually somewhat 
hotter than the actual rating would indicate.


Equivalent torque will give equivalent accelerations, so the times are 
about right.


The W109 is bigger though, in spite of having the same wheelbase and 
height.  Very little tumble-home and a bit fat grill up front!


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Nice W108 Rolling Chassis

2014-08-07 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The hp number is a misprint -- the hp rating for my 72 4.5L is 232,  
I'd guess an engine 1/3 larger would have at least 1/3 more hp, so  
think 375, which is more like the reality.


Those cars were scary fast, and the engines were usually somewhat  
hotter than the actual rating would indicate.


Equivalent torque will give equivalent accelerations, so the times are  
about right.


The W109 is bigger though, in spite of having the same wheelbase and  
height.  Very little tumble-home and a bit fat grill up front!


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Nice W108 Rolling Chassis

2014-08-07 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
I'd be tempted (seeing as I likely have one with a mangled and apparently 
rusted out body -- looks like trunk/rear floor pans are also rotted. )

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> On Aug 4, 2014, at 23:00, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What?? Nobody has piped up with the OM conversion?
> You lot are getting sloppy.
> 
> Hendrik
> who really really needs to get off the computer
> 
>> On 05/08/14 04:28, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> That is a steal.  Lots of good drive trains lying around.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just waiting for that small block Chebby:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2102545-fs-1969-280se-w108.html#post9687825
>>> 
>>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Nice W108 Rolling Chassis

2014-08-07 Thread Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes

You no read Ned's fun comparison?
In case you missed it:

I recently came across an enthusiast's article about the 1970 Mercedes
300SEL 6.3.
The numbers in the article sounded really familiar.  They were very close
to the numbers of my 2006 E320 CDI.  So I looked specs of both cars and
made this table:

Year ~1970~2006

Model 300SEL 6.3   E320 CDI

Curb wt4035 lb3835 lb

Wheel Base  112.8 in 112.4 in

Length   196.9 in 189.7 in

Width   71.3 in  71.3 in

Height 57.9 in   57.0 in

Engine  6.3 liter SI3.2 liter CI

Type  DOHC V8  DOHC I6 Turbo

Fuel  Gasoline Diesel

Power   250 hp201 hp

Torque 369 lb-ft   369 lb-ft

Transmission4–spd auto5-spd auto

0 to 60   6.5 sec   6.6 sec

¼ mile 15.1 sec   15.3 sec

Top Speed   137 mph  130 mph

Fuel Mileage   ~ 15.2 mpg  27 city / 37 hwy mpg

Hwy Range  410 mi on 27 gal740 mi on 20 gal

Base Price   $14,500$51,050


On 05/08/14 22:53, LarryT via Mercedes wrote:
someone should pick it up and save it! I wonder if a 5 cyl or V6 Turbo 
diesel would have enough power to make it practical? Then again, a 
modern Turbo diesel probably puts out as many HP as that 6 cyl 2.8L 
Gas engine, right?


Love those W108s -

Larry


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Re: [MBZ] Nice W108 Rolling Chassis

2014-08-05 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
someone should pick it up and save it!   I wonder if a 5 cyl or V6 Turbo 
diesel would have enough power to make it practical?   Then again, a 
modern Turbo diesel probably puts out as many HP as that 6 cyl 2.8L Gas 
engine, right?


Love those W108s -

Larry

On 8/4/2014 2:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I would me picking that up if I was closer. Hell maybe I should pick it
Up anyway

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On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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Just waiting for that small block Chebby:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2102545-fs-1969-280se-w108.html#post9687825

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Nice W108 Rolling Chassis

2014-08-04 Thread Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes

What?? Nobody has piped up with the OM conversion?
You lot are getting sloppy.

Hendrik
who really really needs to get off the computer

On 05/08/14 04:28, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

That is a steal.  Lots of good drive trains lying around.


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Just waiting for that small block Chebby:


http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2102545-fs-1969-280se-w108.html#post9687825

Dan




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Re: [MBZ] Nice W108 Rolling Chassis

2014-08-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
That is a steal.  Lots of good drive trains lying around.


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> Just waiting for that small block Chebby:
>
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Re: [MBZ] Nice W108 Rolling Chassis

2014-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I would me picking that up if I was closer. Hell maybe I should pick it
Up anyway 

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[MBZ] Nice W108 Rolling Chassis

2014-08-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Just waiting for that small block Chebby:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2102545-fs-1969-280se-w108.html#post9687825

Dan
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