Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87

2007-04-26 Thread Joe Knight

I was travelling when I looked that up on my old laptop in the almost
as old MBNA EPC, Casey.  Just double checked the WW EPC with the same
result though.  Clearly states that 124 350 10 32 is the correct part
for the 124.092, as it is for the 124.193, left side.  The same holds
true for 11 32 on the right side.

-joe



Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87

2007-04-26 Thread Zeitgeist

Ah, thanks Joe!

On 4/25/07, Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I was travelling when I looked that up on my old laptop in the almost
as old MBNA EPC, Casey.  Just double checked the WW EPC with the same
result though.  Clearly states that 124 350 10 32 is the correct part
for the 124.092, as it is for the 124.193, left side.  The same holds
true for 11 32 on the right side.



Casey
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'94 100CSQ Avant
'90 90Q
'89 Bluestar


Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87 S124

2007-04-25 Thread Zeitgeist

Can someone with a working EPC double-check to see if the hub/bearing
carrier for a 124 wagon is interchangeable for all years?  I'm currently at
work, and really need to resolve this silly thing.  Joe Knight emailed me
last week and indicated that it was the same part for all years, but when I
called Aurora, they said the part on the '95 E320 wagon in their yard wasn't
interchangeable with my '87 300TD.  That's also the only 124 wagon they
have.  This sucks.

TIA

Casey
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'90 90Q
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[MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87 S124

2007-04-20 Thread Zeitgeist

So, I finally decided to break down and attack the wayward rear end in my
'87 300TD.  I've had a loose rear wheel bearing for nearly as long as I've
owned the car, but all the stories of S124 woe and misery kept me from get-n
'r done.   I picked up all the necessary links and outboard LCA bushings
(which were extra-toast).  Turns out I didn't have any suitably sized arbors
with which to either press the bearing or LCA bushings, so I opted to take
them to the only Mercedes-specialist in the area--Reinhard.   Turns out
Reinhard's boyz could RR the bushings a-ok, but the bearing was a no-go.
They even applied heat while it was on the press--no go.  They finally gave
up.  Now what do I do?  The heat destroyed the bearing, so I'm indefinitely
immobile.  Can I use my oxy/ace torch to cut the sucker out, or what?  I may
just opt to mail order a good used bearing carrier.

Why didn't any of you warn me about this?  What's wrong with you people?
This sucks.  The wine better get here soon...or, maybe it's a scotch night.

--
Casey
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'87 300TD intercooler/propane
'94 100CSQ Avant
'90 90Q
'89 Bluestar


Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87 S124

2007-04-20 Thread Peter Frederick
I would find another wheel carrier, shouldn't be impossible (try German 
Potomac).


I gave up on a bearing in the steering knuckle of my old Audi Fox, I'd 
destroyed it and it still wouldn't move.  The machine shop I took it to 
had fits, but did manage to get the old on out and the new one in, it 
had rusted in place.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87 S124

2007-04-20 Thread Jim Cathey
Reinhard's boyz could RR the bushings a-ok, but the bearing was a 
no-go.
They even applied heat while it was on the press--no go.  They finally 
gave
up.  Now what do I do?  The heat destroyed the bearing, so I'm 
indefinitely
immobile.  Can I use my oxy/ace torch to cut the sucker out, or what?  
I may

just opt to mail order a good used bearing carrier.


The old farmer trick to removing bearings is to hammer and/or cut out
everything but the outer race, then run a bunch of heavy beads where
the rollers used to sit (same orientation) with the arc welder.  This
shrinks the metal as the beads cool, pulling it away from the walls
of the bearing socket.  Then it just taps out.

This technique also keeps you from ruining the bearing socket, as you
don't end up trying to cut out the race.  (Though real studs can do
this without making a mess, so I'm told.  These are probably the same
studs that can weld two beer cans together cleanly.)

I have never done this, caveat emptor.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87 S124

2007-04-20 Thread Peter Frederick
You also might try to fracture the race with a cold chisel.  Probably 
easier to get a replacement from a junk yard, though.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87 S124

2007-04-20 Thread Rich Thomas
They needed a bigger press and an oxy-acetylene torch.  I took a ujoint 
once to a driveshaft place, they beat on it, pressed it, no go.  Finally 
put it on what looked like a 25+ ton press (the hyd cylinder was about 
6 diameter) and got out the hot wrench, and had a go.  When it popped 
it sounded like a .45 going off.  No damage, no problems.


--R

Zeitgeist wrote:

So, I finally decided to break down and attack the wayward rear end in my
'87 300TD.  I've had a loose rear wheel bearing for nearly as long as I've
owned the car, but all the stories of S124 woe and misery kept me from get-n
'r done.   I picked up all the necessary links and outboard LCA bushings
(which were extra-toast).  Turns out I didn't have any suitably sized arbors
with which to either press the bearing or LCA bushings, so I opted to take
them to the only Mercedes-specialist in the area--Reinhard.   Turns out
Reinhard's boyz could RR the bushings a-ok, but the bearing was a no-go.
They even applied heat while it was on the press--no go.  They finally gave
up.  Now what do I do?  The heat destroyed the bearing, so I'm indefinitely
immobile.  Can I use my oxy/ace torch to cut the sucker out, or what?  I may
just opt to mail order a good used bearing carrier.

Why didn't any of you warn me about this?  What's wrong with you people?
This sucks.  The wine better get here soon...or, maybe it's a scotch night.

  





Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87 S124

2007-04-20 Thread Loren Faeth
Are you talking about the 300td?  if so, those are a bear.  My local 
independent shop got the one changed in my 300TD, but it was a major 
bear.  They bent their tooling, and had to custom build a beefier 
version.  They said iut was the worst thing they'd ever seen.


If you can't do any better, I can give you his phone number or 
address and you could send the carrier to him.  No guarantee he can 
get it out either, but he is good and pretty innovative.  Same guy 
repaired the unrepairable' 126 torsion bar on Dan Weeks car.


Loren

At 08:31 PM 4/19/2007, you wrote:

So, I finally decided to break down and attack the wayward rear end in my
'87 300TD.  I've had a loose rear wheel bearing for nearly as long as I've
owned the car, but all the stories of S124 woe and misery kept me from get-n
'r done.   I picked up all the necessary links and outboard LCA bushings
(which were extra-toast).  Turns out I didn't have any suitably sized arbors
with which to either press the bearing or LCA bushings, so I opted to take
them to the only Mercedes-specialist in the area--Reinhard.   Turns out
Reinhard's boyz could RR the bushings a-ok, but the bearing was a no-go.
They even applied heat while it was on the press--no go.  They finally gave
up.  Now what do I do?  The heat destroyed the bearing, so I'm indefinitely
immobile.  Can I use my oxy/ace torch to cut the sucker out, or what?  I may
just opt to mail order a good used bearing carrier.

Why didn't any of you warn me about this?  What's wrong with you people?
This sucks.  The wine better get here soon...or, maybe it's a scotch night.

--
Casey
__
'87 300TD intercooler/propane
'94 100CSQ Avant
'90 90Q
'89 Bluestar
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Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87 S124

2007-04-20 Thread Loren Faeth

Not if it is a TD wagon.  Those are different and very rare.



 Probably
easier to get a replacement from a junk yard, though.

Peter



Loren Faeth 





Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87 S124

2007-04-20 Thread Zeitgeist

Would that be any different than a S124 300TE/E320 wagon?

On 4/19/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Not if it is a TD wagon.  Those are different and very rare.



Casey
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'94 100CSQ Avant
'90 90Q
'89 Bluestar


Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87 S124

2007-04-20 Thread Loren Faeth
What model are you working on?i think the 300TE (124) has the 
same bearing, but i am not sure.


At 11:01 PM 4/19/2007, you wrote:

Would that be any different than a S124 300TE/E320 wagon?

On 4/19/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not if it is a TD wagon.  Those are different and very rare.


Casey
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'94 100CSQ Avant
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Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87 S124

2007-04-20 Thread Zeitgeist

I'd be very surprised if any of the entire production run of S124 were
different.  Mine is an '87 300TD.

On 4/19/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What model are you working on?i think the 300TE (124) has the
same bearing, but i am not sure.



Casey
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'87 300TD intercooler/propane
'94 100CSQ Avant
'90 90Q
'89 Bluestar


Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87 S124

2007-04-20 Thread andrew strasfogel

Call MB Classic and ask for a cross check to learnw what other models have
the same part.  1-866 622-5277

On 4/20/07, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'd be very surprised if any of the entire production run of S124 were
different.  Mine is an '87 300TD.

On 4/19/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What model are you working on?i think the 300TE (124) has the
 same bearing, but i am not sure.


Casey
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'87 300TD intercooler/propane
'94 100CSQ Avant
'90 90Q
'89 Bluestar
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