Re: [MBZ] O.T. How Soon We Forget
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_Progress_Administration Rick Original Message Show Details From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: March 7, 2021 3:49 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: dillonm...@gmail.com<mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. How Soon We Forget Williams Paving and Asphalt? - Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. How Soon We Forget
We don't have any sidewalks or road surfaces left from that era, the frost has ripped them all to pieces. That said we do have a lot of buildings and other structures like dams from them. -Curt On Sunday, March 7, 2021, 1:38:39 AM EST, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: My neighborhood is full of sidewalks and curbing that was laid by the WPA. Every time I walk past one of these impressions in the concrete, I ask whomever I am with what does that mean. no one knows. No one ever knows. sad. AZBob Sent from my iPhone___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. How Soon We Forget
Yep. They should still have a WPA going for all the folks who want money but can’t find a job. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2021, at 10:50 AM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > WPA used public funds to produce public projects that made life better for > the nation, while paying a wage [a small one at that] to those who did the > work, at a time when "you could not buy a job" in the words of my Father, > who was a young man during that era. > > The guiding principle at that time was "nothing is for free" and "you have > to work for what you earn" not like today with "endless free social > programs that require nothing in return." > Imagine what the inner cities could look like now if the money given out in > welfare over the past 50 years was paid out as wages for public work > projects. > >> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 7:08 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> And many of the infrastructure projects people enjoy today that make up >> our National Parks wouldn’t exist, either. Trails, roads, overlooks, etc., >> many of which were built by the WPA. >> >> Youngest son volunteered with a program called “ACE” ( >> https://www.usaconservation.org) that provides (free) labor to the >> National Parks in some states to maintain and rebuild many of these >> resources, mainly trails. He talked about how they saw a lot of markers and >> related graffiti left by WPA workers on the projects they worked on. He >> thought it was pretty cool. >> >> -D >> >>> On Mar 7, 2021, at 8:53 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> It is sad, and a sad commentary on our educational system that the hows, >> whys, and solutions to the Great Depression are not taught. >>> >>> If they were we wouldn't have stuff like BitCoin and the GameStop stock >> fiasco, people would know better. >>> >>> The WPA helped feed my Mom growing up, my Grandpa worked for them doing >> things like laying sidewalks! >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. How Soon We Forget
Williams Paving and Asphalt? - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 1:38 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My neighborhood is full of sidewalks and curbing that was laid by the WPA. > Every time I walk past one of these impressions in the concrete, I ask > whomever I am with what does that mean. no one knows. No one ever knows. > sad. > > AZBob > > > > Sent from my iPhone___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. How Soon We Forget
> Most are stamped with “1937” in addition to the WPA impression. They are all > in perfect condition. They probably didn't have enough union concrete* available to meet the increased demand, and had to use fresh. * You know, the stuff with the extra meat and bones mixed in... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. How Soon We Forget
I was not a fan of FDR's job's program, but it beat what we did in 2008-2009 and 2020-2021 by a WIDE margin. Paying unemployed people to work beats paying them to not work, or paying failed banks to buy other failed banks because the banks are already considered too big to fail so it's worth billions to make them bigger. On 2021-03-07 11:57, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: The curbs are really cool. Most are stamped with “1937” in addition to the WPA impression. They are all in perfect condition. My grandfather did a little WPA work in Central Illinois before he landed his Caterpillar job. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. How Soon We Forget
The curbs are really cool. Most are stamped with “1937” in addition to the WPA impression. They are all in perfect condition. My grandfather did a little WPA work in Central Illinois before he landed his Caterpillar job. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2021, at 7:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > And many of the infrastructure projects people enjoy today that make up our > National Parks wouldn’t exist, either. Trails, roads, overlooks, etc., many > of which were built by the WPA. > > Youngest son volunteered with a program called “ACE” > (https://www.usaconservation.org) that provides (free) labor to the National > Parks in some states to maintain and rebuild many of these resources, mainly > trails. He talked about how they saw a lot of markers and related graffiti > left by WPA workers on the projects they worked on. He thought it was pretty > cool. > > -D > >> On Mar 7, 2021, at 8:53 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> It is sad, and a sad commentary on our educational system that the hows, >> whys, and solutions to the Great Depression are not taught. >> >> If they were we wouldn't have stuff like BitCoin and the GameStop stock >> fiasco, people would know better. >> >> The WPA helped feed my Mom growing up, my Grandpa worked for them doing >> things like laying sidewalks! >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. How Soon We Forget
WPA used public funds to produce public projects that made life better for the nation, while paying a wage [a small one at that] to those who did the work, at a time when "you could not buy a job" in the words of my Father, who was a young man during that era. The guiding principle at that time was "nothing is for free" and "you have to work for what you earn" not like today with "endless free social programs that require nothing in return." Imagine what the inner cities could look like now if the money given out in welfare over the past 50 years was paid out as wages for public work projects. On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 7:08 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > And many of the infrastructure projects people enjoy today that make up > our National Parks wouldn’t exist, either. Trails, roads, overlooks, etc., > many of which were built by the WPA. > > Youngest son volunteered with a program called “ACE” ( > https://www.usaconservation.org) that provides (free) labor to the > National Parks in some states to maintain and rebuild many of these > resources, mainly trails. He talked about how they saw a lot of markers and > related graffiti left by WPA workers on the projects they worked on. He > thought it was pretty cool. > > -D > > > On Mar 7, 2021, at 8:53 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > It is sad, and a sad commentary on our educational system that the hows, > whys, and solutions to the Great Depression are not taught. > > > > If they were we wouldn't have stuff like BitCoin and the GameStop stock > fiasco, people would know better. > > > > The WPA helped feed my Mom growing up, my Grandpa worked for them doing > things like laying sidewalks! > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. How Soon We Forget
And many of the infrastructure projects people enjoy today that make up our National Parks wouldn’t exist, either. Trails, roads, overlooks, etc., many of which were built by the WPA. Youngest son volunteered with a program called “ACE” (https://www.usaconservation.org) that provides (free) labor to the National Parks in some states to maintain and rebuild many of these resources, mainly trails. He talked about how they saw a lot of markers and related graffiti left by WPA workers on the projects they worked on. He thought it was pretty cool. -D > On Mar 7, 2021, at 8:53 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes > wrote: > > It is sad, and a sad commentary on our educational system that the hows, > whys, and solutions to the Great Depression are not taught. > > If they were we wouldn't have stuff like BitCoin and the GameStop stock > fiasco, people would know better. > > The WPA helped feed my Mom growing up, my Grandpa worked for them doing > things like laying sidewalks! > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. How Soon We Forget
It is sad, and a sad commentary on our educational system that the hows, whys, and solutions to the Great Depression are not taught. If they were we wouldn't have stuff like BitCoin and the GameStop stock fiasco, people would know better. The WPA helped feed my Mom growing up, my Grandpa worked for them doing things like laying sidewalks! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com