Re: [MBZ] OT: Hydroxychloroquine randomized clinical trial study

2020-06-03 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Meade wrote:

> Prevention of infection is not the goal, prevention of
> hospitalization and death from the infection, THAT is the goal.

> Sounds like they moved the goal posts in order to get the
> outcome they desired.

The goals have obviously been moving ever since the curve was
flattened.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Hydroxychloroquine randomized clinical trial study

2020-06-03 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 16:06:19 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Can't read it, don't have a subscription and won't turn off my tools for
> preventing the spyware and obnoxious ads.
> 
> Prevention of infection is not the goal, prevention of hospitalization
> and death from the infection, THAT is the goal.
> 
> Sounds like they moved the goal posts in order to get the outcome they
> desired.


Did they use zinc and azithromycin as well? If not, it's a invalid test.


Craig



> > "Hydroxychloroquine did not prevent healthy people exposed to
> > covid-19 from getting the disease caused by the coronavirus,
> > according to a study being published Wednesday in the New England
> > Journal of Medicine."
> >
> >
> > https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/03/hydroxychloroquine-clinical-trial-results/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YSIsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk2YjA3NGQ5YmJjMGY0MDNmODlmMmYwIiwidGFnIjoid3BfbmV3c19hbGVydF9yZXZlcmUiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vaGVhbHRoLzIwMjAvMDYvMDMvaHlkcm94eWNobG9yb3F1aW5lLWNsaW5pY2FsLXRyaWFsLXJlc3VsdHMvP3dwbWs9MSZ3cGlzcmM9YWxfbmV3c19fYWxlcnQtaHNlLS1hbGVydC1uYXRpb25hbCZ1dG1fc291cmNlPWFsZXJ0JnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPXdwX25ld3NfYWxlcnRfcmV2ZXJlIn0.hWnXUghpIAUUHog9UY30B_6mLEMoftX2aNv-84_xfBE_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere_medium=email_source=alert=al_news__alert-hse--alert-national=1

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Hydroxychloroquine randomized clinical trial study

2020-06-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
But if it did prevent infection, that would be great news wouldn't it?

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 4:07 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Can't read it, don't have a subscription and won't turn off my tools for
> preventing the spyware and obnoxious ads.
>
> Prevention of infection is not the goal, prevention of hospitalization and
> death from the infection, THAT is the goal.
>
> Sounds like they moved the goal posts in order to get the outcome they
> desired.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 3:16 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > "Hydroxychloroquine did not prevent healthy people exposed to covid-19
> from
> > getting the disease caused by the coronavirus, according to a study being
> > published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine."
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/03/hydroxychloroquine-clinical-trial-results/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YSIsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk2YjA3NGQ5YmJjMGY0MDNmODlmMmYwIiwidGFnIjoid3BfbmV3c19hbGVydF9yZXZlcmUiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vaGVhbHRoLzIwMjAvMDYvMDMvaHlkcm94eWNobG9yb3F1aW5lLWNsaW5pY2FsLXRyaWFsLXJlc3VsdHMvP3dwbWs9MSZ3cGlzcmM9YWxfbmV3c19fYWxlcnQtaHNlLS1hbGVydC1uYXRpb25hbCZ1dG1fc291cmNlPWFsZXJ0JnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPXdwX25ld3NfYWxlcnRfcmV2ZXJlIn0.hWnXUghpIAUUHog9UY30B_6mLEMoftX2aNv-84_xfBE_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere_medium=email_source=alert=al_news__alert-hse--alert-national=1
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Hydroxychloroquine randomized clinical trial study

2020-06-03 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Can't read it, don't have a subscription and won't turn off my tools for
preventing the spyware and obnoxious ads.

Prevention of infection is not the goal, prevention of hospitalization and
death from the infection, THAT is the goal.

Sounds like they moved the goal posts in order to get the outcome they
desired.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 3:16 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> "Hydroxychloroquine did not prevent healthy people exposed to covid-19 from
> getting the disease caused by the coronavirus, according to a study being
> published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine."
>
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/03/hydroxychloroquine-clinical-trial-results/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YSIsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk2YjA3NGQ5YmJjMGY0MDNmODlmMmYwIiwidGFnIjoid3BfbmV3c19hbGVydF9yZXZlcmUiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vaGVhbHRoLzIwMjAvMDYvMDMvaHlkcm94eWNobG9yb3F1aW5lLWNsaW5pY2FsLXRyaWFsLXJlc3VsdHMvP3dwbWs9MSZ3cGlzcmM9YWxfbmV3c19fYWxlcnQtaHNlLS1hbGVydC1uYXRpb25hbCZ1dG1fc291cmNlPWFsZXJ0JnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPXdwX25ld3NfYWxlcnRfcmV2ZXJlIn0.hWnXUghpIAUUHog9UY30B_6mLEMoftX2aNv-84_xfBE_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere_medium=email_source=alert=al_news__alert-hse--alert-national=1
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[MBZ] OT: Hydroxychloroquine randomized clinical trial study

2020-06-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
"Hydroxychloroquine did not prevent healthy people exposed to covid-19 from
getting the disease caused by the coronavirus, according to a study being
published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/03/hydroxychloroquine-clinical-trial-results/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YSIsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk2YjA3NGQ5YmJjMGY0MDNmODlmMmYwIiwidGFnIjoid3BfbmV3c19hbGVydF9yZXZlcmUiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vaGVhbHRoLzIwMjAvMDYvMDMvaHlkcm94eWNobG9yb3F1aW5lLWNsaW5pY2FsLXRyaWFsLXJlc3VsdHMvP3dwbWs9MSZ3cGlzcmM9YWxfbmV3c19fYWxlcnQtaHNlLS1hbGVydC1uYXRpb25hbCZ1dG1fc291cmNlPWFsZXJ0JnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPXdwX25ld3NfYWxlcnRfcmV2ZXJlIn0.hWnXUghpIAUUHog9UY30B_6mLEMoftX2aNv-84_xfBE_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere_medium=email_source=alert=al_news__alert-hse--alert-national=1
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