Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
David, I must have made some sense to you as you only objection is semantics. However, there's no confusion here. Climate is merely the tapestry woven by every day's weather. If one is predicting climate then one is merely predicting what the weather will be like over a period of time. Michael At 03:16 PM 2/6/2007, you wrote: Michael Baker wrote: Those guys cannot accurately predict next week's or next year's weather much less weather trends over the next 100 years. You're confusing weather with climate. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
Michael Baker wrote: David, I must have made some sense to you as you only objection is semantics. However, there's no confusion here. Climate is merely the tapestry woven by every day's weather. If one is predicting climate then one is merely predicting what the weather will be like over a period of time. Not at all. Climate is a long term average over a wide area, and tends to be predictable, whereas day-to-day weather for any given location is chaotic. I point this out because the fact that you don't understand it to me means all your other rationalizations are suspect. To use an automotive example, I can say with pretty high certainty that if I average the fuel economy of my Ford over an entire year, it will get very close to 20 mpg. However, if I try to specify what my fuel economy for any given day is, I could be way off, because I might get stuck in a traffic jam and spend a lot of time idling.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
Climate is merely the tapestry woven by every day's weather. If one is predicting climate then one is merely predicting what the weather will be like over a period of time. Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get. Simple! :-) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:43:49 -0700 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a 10 part series on the subject, Some scientists deny global warming exists that starts at http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=156df7e6-d490-41c9-8b1f-106fef8763c6k=0 My word! I had no idea I would generate such a thread! Craig
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person! At 04:46 PM 2/6/2007, you wrote: Michael Baker wrote: David, I must have made some sense to you as you only objection is semantics. However, there's no confusion here. Climate is merely the tapestry woven by every day's weather. If one is predicting climate then one is merely predicting what the weather will be like over a period of time. Not at all. Climate is a long term average over a wide area, and tends to be predictable, whereas day-to-day weather for any given location is chaotic. I point this out because the fact that you don't understand it to me means all your other rationalizations are suspect. To use an automotive example, I can say with pretty high certainty that if I average the fuel economy of my Ford over an entire year, it will get very close to 20 mpg. However, if I try to specify what my fuel economy for any given day is, I could be way off, because I might get stuck in a traffic jam and spend a lot of time idling. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
Michael Baker wrote: I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person! If that were true, it'd be an even match.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
A lot. if it's the generally expected rise of 2-6'C it will be globally devastating. mak - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming It was revealed recently that American Enterprise Institute offered $10,000 of Exxon-Mobil's money to any scientist who would write a paper critical of the U.N. report, back in July. I wonder how many of the people saying global warming doesn't exist have been well payed to come to that conclusion? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.4/643 - Release Date: 1/21/2007
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
All those global climate change deniers fail to mention that it's the melting POLAR ICE CAPS that will be the disaster, and that the amount of snow in Colorado or how cold it is in Canada or Wyoming right now is completely irrelevant. On 2/5/07, M.Afzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot. if it's the generally expected rise of 2-6'C it will be globally devastating. mak - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming It was revealed recently that American Enterprise Institute offered $10,000 of Exxon-Mobil's money to any scientist who would write a paper critical of the U.N. report, back in July. I wonder how many of the people saying global warming doesn't exist have been well payed to come to that conclusion? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.4/643 - Release Date: 1/21/2007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
on Global Warming All those global climate change deniers fail to mention that it's the melting POLAR ICE CAPS that will be the disaster, and that the amount of snow in Colorado or how cold it is in Canada or Wyoming right now is completely irrelevant. On 2/5/07, M.Afzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot. if it's the generally expected rise of 2-6'C it will be globally devastating. mak - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming It was revealed recently that American Enterprise Institute offered $10,000 of Exxon-Mobil's money to any scientist who would write a paper critical of the U.N. report, back in July. I wonder how many of the people saying global warming doesn't exist have been well payed to come to that conclusion? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.4/643 - Release Date: 1/21/2007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
Michael Baker wrote: Those guys cannot accurately predict next week's or next year's weather much less weather trends over the next 100 years. You're confusing weather with climate.
[MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
There is a 10 part series on the subject, Some scientists deny global warming exists that starts at http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=156df7e6-d490-41c9-8b1f-106fef8763c6k=0 Craig
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
It appears that perhaps the sky isn't falling... http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009625 On 2/4/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a 10 part series on the subject, Some scientists deny global warming exists that starts at http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=156df7e6-d490-41c9-8b1f-106fef8763c6k=0 Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
It was revealed recently that American Enterprise Institute offered $10,000 of Exxon-Mobil's money to any scientist who would write a paper critical of the U.N. report, back in July. I wonder how many of the people saying global warming doesn't exist have been well payed to come to that conclusion?
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
I'd sure like to have the globe, or even a few smaller objects warmed about now. I've had enough below zero for a winter already. Bring on the warming! At 12:24 AM 2/5/2007, you wrote: It appears that perhaps the sky isn't falling... http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009625 On 2/4/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a 10 part series on the subject, Some scientists deny global warming exists that starts at http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=156df7e6-d490-41c9-8b1f-106fef8763c6k=0 Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
