Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Aha! Finally an explanation which "clears the air," so to speak. DG --- Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:48:01PM -0400, Jeff Zedic > wrote: > > Hah! Believe me, if VW can meet Euro 4 emission > specs, they can meet the > > wimpy US EPA limits! > > Don't forget that the EU and EPA have DIFFERENT WAYS > THEY MEASURE EMISSIONS. > The EPA places a much higher emphasis on NOx and > particulates than the EU. > > As we all know, diesels burning petro diesel are way > higher in NOx than their > gasser counterparts. This is why imported diesels > (mercedes and otherwise) > are few and far between, and why we go for years > without seeing any new > imports. > > K > > ___ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Jeff Zedic wrote: Hah! Believe me, if VW can meet Euro 4 emission specs, they can meet the wimpy US EPA limits! Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD US NOx emission specs exceed those for Europe (or did)! There's a basic incompatibility between the two. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:48:01PM -0400, Jeff Zedic wrote: > Hah! Believe me, if VW can meet Euro 4 emission specs, they can meet the > wimpy US EPA limits! Don't forget that the EU and EPA have DIFFERENT WAYS THEY MEASURE EMISSIONS. The EPA places a much higher emphasis on NOx and particulates than the EU. As we all know, diesels burning petro diesel are way higher in NOx than their gasser counterparts. This is why imported diesels (mercedes and otherwise) are few and far between, and why we go for years without seeing any new imports. K
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Hah! Believe me, if VW can meet Euro 4 emission specs, they can meet the wimpy US EPA limits! Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Richard Hattaway wrote: > Rethinking the niche market comment, I'm > wrong there, globally. It's a niche market in the US. Europe depends > on them. We will too, eventually. Or maybe not. I hear the stricter EPA regs that come into effect in 2007 will totally eliminate passenger car diesels, here. (Although the car companies swore they could never meet the EPA's gasoline engine regulations, back in the 70s, so who knows?)
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Let me refraze that, the europeans are "embracing diesels" more than the gas counterparts. "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Catching on The Europeans "caught on" about diesels long ago.Too >bad the majority of us Americans can't seem to"catch on". Mike >- Original Message - >From: "Harry " M.)"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 6:30 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat? > > >As with the any new model addition they tend to want the gas version out >first since there is more demand for it then its diesel counterpart. Diesels >are catching on in europe since gas prices as you know are outrageous. > >David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Exactly, but why the hiatus? >> >>DG >> >>--- Harry M.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> I have a Passat and according to VW they will be >>> bringing it back with the new model which is the B6 >>> platform. The new TDI is available in europe now but >>> won't be here till next year. As far as I know the >>> most recent B5.5 Passat is still available with the >>> TDI. Actually the TDI was more reliable then the >>> other gas models. >>> >>> David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. >>> the >>> >Passat? Were there problems with it/them? >>> > >>> >DG >>> > >>> >__ >>> >Do You Yahoo!? >>> >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >>> protection around >>> >http://mail.yahoo.com >>> > >>> >___ >>> >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > >>> >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> >>>http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles >>> 72 350SL 108,000 Miles >>> 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion >>> 1999 Mazda Miata >>> >>> >>> >>__ >>> Switch to Netscape Internet Service. >>> As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at >>> http://isp.netscape.com/register >>> >>> Netscape. Just the Net You Need. >>> >>> New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer >>> Search from anywhere on the Web and block those >>> annoying pop-ups. >>> Download now at >>> http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp >>> >>> ___ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> >>http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page >>http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >> >> >>___ >>For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >> > > >-- >69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles >72 350SL 108,000 Miles >2004 VW Passat 4 Motion >1999 Mazda Miata > > >__ >Switch to Netscape Internet Service. >As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register > >Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > >New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer >Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. >Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp > >___ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > >___ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
A reasonable person would figure the UVW would give a holla' to the the dealers up north with a request to clear the Vancouver dealers overload of TDI, thereby allowing VVW to take delivery of new model 06 cars, and UVW sells the stuff the canadians are not moving. That is just me thinking logical. I know logic has no place in cars. On Wednesday, August 31, 2005, at 10:21 AM, David Goldsmith wrote: Exactly, it's absolutely insane: University VW (in Seattle) confirmed there are no new '05 TDI Passat wagons West of the Rockies, and only "a few" left East of 'em; this is in the US, however - North of the border, I easily found three Vancouver, BC area dealers each with multiple '05 TDI Passat Wagons in stock! The most plausible hypothesis I hear consistently is that they underestimated US demand, can't meet it, and want to make sure they keep their existing TDI customers in the rest of the world happy, so we get the short end of the stick. Bummer for us, and poor planning on their part, but I can't say as I blame 'em. DG --- Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess I'm really outta the loop here, I thought they were going to ramp up tdi sales throughout the model range, given their increasing popularity. Seems silly to nix the new Passat tdi, which by all accounts is a stellar vehicle. On 8/30/05, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 12:50:27PM -0700, Richard Hattaway wrote: They are classic performers. Underappreciated, for sure. Probably because they have fields and fields of unsold cars in Mexico now, and TDI is a niche market. I bet they want to concentrate on getting inventory down a bit. This, of course, being a less cynical answer. And to answer Casey's question, dealers have mentioned it, and it's been the buzz in the TDI community for a while. -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (208k) '84 300D (203k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K) ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Catching on The Europeans "caught on" about diesels long ago.Too bad the majority of us Americans can't seem to"catch on". Mike - Original Message - From: "Harry " M.)"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat? As with the any new model addition they tend to want the gas version out first since there is more demand for it then its diesel counterpart. Diesels are catching on in europe since gas prices as you know are outrageous. David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Exactly, but why the hiatus? DG --- Harry M.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a Passat and according to VW they will be bringing it back with the new model which is the B6 platform. The new TDI is available in europe now but won't be here till next year. As far as I know the most recent B5.5 Passat is still available with the TDI. Actually the TDI was more reliable then the other gas models. David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. the >Passat? Were there problems with it/them? > >DG > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >___ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Germany is W The first 3 of my vin is WVW, not sure what Canada is Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Does Canada use the USA vin standards? >USA-1 >Canada-2 >Mexico-3 >W. Germany was W, is Germany W now? > >___ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
As with the any new model addition they tend to want the gas version out first since there is more demand for it then its diesel counterpart. Diesels are catching on in europe since gas prices as you know are outrageous. David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Exactly, but why the hiatus? > >DG > >--- Harry M.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have a Passat and according to VW they will be >> bringing it back with the new model which is the B6 >> platform. The new TDI is available in europe now but >> won't be here till next year. As far as I know the >> most recent B5.5 Passat is still available with the >> TDI. Actually the TDI was more reliable then the >> other gas models. >> >> David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. >> the >> >Passat? Were there problems with it/them? >> > >> >DG >> > >> >__ >> >Do You Yahoo!? >> >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >> protection around >> >http://mail.yahoo.com >> > >> >___ >> >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >>http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >> > >> >> >> -- >> 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles >> 72 350SL 108,000 Miles >> 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion >> 1999 Mazda Miata >> >> >> >__ >> Switch to Netscape Internet Service. >> As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at >> http://isp.netscape.com/register >> >> Netscape. Just the Net You Need. >> >> New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer >> Search from anywhere on the Web and block those >> annoying pop-ups. >> Download now at >> http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp >> >> ___ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >> > > > > > >Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page >http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > >___ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Exactly, but why the hiatus? DG --- Harry M.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a Passat and according to VW they will be > bringing it back with the new model which is the B6 > platform. The new TDI is available in europe now but > won't be here till next year. As far as I know the > most recent B5.5 Passat is still available with the > TDI. Actually the TDI was more reliable then the > other gas models. > > David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. > the > >Passat? Were there problems with it/them? > > > >DG > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >___ > >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > -- > 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles > 72 350SL 108,000 Miles > 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion > 1999 Mazda Miata > > > __ > Switch to Netscape Internet Service. > As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at > http://isp.netscape.com/register > > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer > Search from anywhere on the Web and block those > annoying pop-ups. > Download now at > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp > > ___ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Exactly, it's absolutely insane: University VW (in Seattle) confirmed there are no new '05 TDI Passat wagons West of the Rockies, and only "a few" left East of 'em; this is in the US, however - North of the border, I easily found three Vancouver, BC area dealers each with multiple '05 TDI Passat Wagons in stock! The most plausible hypothesis I hear consistently is that they underestimated US demand, can't meet it, and want to make sure they keep their existing TDI customers in the rest of the world happy, so we get the short end of the stick. Bummer for us, and poor planning on their part, but I can't say as I blame 'em. DG --- Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess I'm really outta the loop here, I thought > they were going to > ramp up tdi sales throughout the model range, given > their increasing > popularity. Seems silly to nix the new Passat tdi, > which by all > accounts is a stellar vehicle. > > On 8/30/05, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 12:50:27PM -0700, Richard > Hattaway wrote: > > > They are classic performers. Underappreciated, > for sure. Probably > > > because they have fields and fields of unsold > cars in Mexico now, and > > > TDI is a niche market. I bet they want to > concentrate on getting > > > inventory down a bit. > > > > This, of course, being a less cynical answer. And > to answer Casey's question, > > dealers have mentioned it, and it's been the buzz > in the TDI community for > > a while. > > -- > Casey > Olympia, WA > Biodiesel: > '87 300TD intercooler (208k) > '84 300D (203k) > Gashuffer: > '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K) > > ___ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Does Canada use the USA vin standards? USA-1 Canada-2 Mexico-3 W. Germany was W, is Germany W now?
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Hmmm. I'll check when I go home tonight. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/31/05, tom savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TimothyPilgrim wrote: > > > What about the Golf? I've heard that it's built in both Mexico and > > Belgium. I believe my wife's was determined to be of Belgian origin. > > All US-bound Golfs are built in Mexico; maybe Canadia cars come from > elsewhere. The VIN of any Mexican-built car will start with 3A-3W. > Belgian cars start with YA-YE. > > Tom > > ___ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
TimothyPilgrim wrote: What about the Golf? I've heard that it's built in both Mexico and Belgium. I believe my wife's was determined to be of Belgian origin. All US-bound Golfs are built in Mexico; maybe Canadia cars come from elsewhere. The VIN of any Mexican-built car will start with 3A-3W. Belgian cars start with YA-YE. Tom
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
What about the Golf? I've heard that it's built in both Mexico and Belgium. I believe my wife's was determined to be of Belgian origin. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/31/05, Richard Hattaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yep, the Jetta and Beetle are Mexico cars. I was referring to a soft > market in general. Even though they are fabulous cars, people are not > dragging them home in pairs. Rethinking the niche market comment, I'm > wrong there, globally. It's a niche market in the US. Europe depends > on them. We will too, eventually. > > Richard
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Yep, the Jetta and Beetle are Mexico cars. I was referring to a soft market in general. Even though they are fabulous cars, people are not dragging them home in pairs. Rethinking the niche market comment, I'm wrong there, globally. It's a niche market in the US. Europe depends on them. We will too, eventually. Richard --- Harry M.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Passat is built in Emden Germany > > > Richard Hattaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >They are classic performers. Underappreciated, for sure. Probably > >because they have fields and fields of unsold cars in Mexico now, > and > >TDI is a niche market. I bet they want to concentrate on getting > >inventory down a bit. > > > >Just guessing, though. > > > >Richard > > > > > >--- David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. the > >> Passat? Were there problems with it/them? > >> > >> DG > >> > >> __ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > >> ___ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > >> > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >___ > >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > -- > 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles > 72 350SL 108,000 Miles > 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion > 1999 Mazda Miata > > > __ > Switch to Netscape Internet Service. > As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at > http://isp.netscape.com/register > > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer > Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. > Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp > > ___ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
The Passat is built in Emden Germany Richard Hattaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >They are classic performers. Underappreciated, for sure. Probably >because they have fields and fields of unsold cars in Mexico now, and >TDI is a niche market. I bet they want to concentrate on getting >inventory down a bit. > >Just guessing, though. > >Richard > > >--- David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. the >> Passat? Were there problems with it/them? >> >> DG >> >> __ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> ___ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >> > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >___ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
I'm going to add here that since fuel prices are even higher in europe that the diesel's popularity is higher there then here. That could explain why it takes longer to reach us. It will be back just don't exactly know when. Could be that they have to stock up their market first before they have enough to send here. The new one will be longer, wider and much faster then the old model. Hate to say this but they already stated it was quieter then ummm.. should I say this the C Class :0 Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 12:50:27PM -0700, Richard Hattaway wrote: >> They are classic performers. Underappreciated, for sure. Probably >> because they have fields and fields of unsold cars in Mexico now, and >> TDI is a niche market. I bet they want to concentrate on getting >> inventory down a bit. > >This, of course, being a less cynical answer. And to answer Casey's question, >dealers have mentioned it, and it's been the buzz in the TDI community for >a while. > >K > >___ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
I have a Passat and according to VW they will be bringing it back with the new model which is the B6 platform. The new TDI is available in europe now but won't be here till next year. As far as I know the most recent B5.5 Passat is still available with the TDI. Actually the TDI was more reliable then the other gas models. David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. the >Passat? Were there problems with it/them? > >DG > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >___ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
I did hear they are 86ing the 4 door Golf TDI for some reason... Do the '05 TDI engines have timing chains vice belts now? My '01 Beetle TDI will be due a new belt soon (60K) about the time the lease is up. If they have chains now, I may bet a new one. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 138K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: "TimothyPilgrim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat? Strange. Nothing noted about that here from what I saw: B5 Passat TDIs http://forums.tdiclub.com/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=gtdidb5 Tim On 8/30/05, David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. the Passat? Were there problems with it/them? DG ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Strange. Nothing noted about that here from what I saw: B5 Passat TDIs http://forums.tdiclub.com/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=gtdidb5 Tim On 8/30/05, David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. the > Passat? Were there problems with it/them? > > DG
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
I guess I'm really outta the loop here, I thought they were going to ramp up tdi sales throughout the model range, given their increasing popularity. Seems silly to nix the new Passat tdi, which by all accounts is a stellar vehicle. On 8/30/05, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 12:50:27PM -0700, Richard Hattaway wrote: > > They are classic performers. Underappreciated, for sure. Probably > > because they have fields and fields of unsold cars in Mexico now, and > > TDI is a niche market. I bet they want to concentrate on getting > > inventory down a bit. > > This, of course, being a less cynical answer. And to answer Casey's question, > dealers have mentioned it, and it's been the buzz in the TDI community for > a while. -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (208k) '84 300D (203k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K)
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
mentioned almost as an aside here,... http://media.vw.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=9618 cheers! e > Where did you hear this? > > On 8/30/05, David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. the >> Passat? Were there problems with it/them? >> >> DG > > Casey > Olympia, WA > Biodiesel: > '87 300TD intercooler (208k) > '84 300D (203k) > Gashuffer: > '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K) > > ___ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 12:50:27PM -0700, Richard Hattaway wrote: > They are classic performers. Underappreciated, for sure. Probably > because they have fields and fields of unsold cars in Mexico now, and > TDI is a niche market. I bet they want to concentrate on getting > inventory down a bit. This, of course, being a less cynical answer. And to answer Casey's question, dealers have mentioned it, and it's been the buzz in the TDI community for a while. K
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
VW dealers, but maybe I misunderstood - do you know otherwise? DG --- Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where did you hear this? > > On 8/30/05, David Goldsmith > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. > the > > Passat? Were there problems with it/them? > > > > DG > > Casey > Olympia, WA > Biodiesel: > '87 300TD intercooler (208k) > '84 300D (203k) > Gashuffer: > '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K) > > ___ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Kevin, Here I try to explain it with the economy and such, and you go fouling it all up with the truth... geeeze... (c: Richard --- Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 12:41:06PM -0700, David Goldsmith wrote: > > Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. the > > Passat? Were there problems with it/them? > > My money's on the morons your elected officials put in charge of > making > sure that we don't pollute the segment of the environment that > special > interests pay us to care about. > > K > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
They are classic performers. Underappreciated, for sure. Probably because they have fields and fields of unsold cars in Mexico now, and TDI is a niche market. I bet they want to concentrate on getting inventory down a bit. Just guessing, though. Richard --- David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. the > Passat? Were there problems with it/them? > > DG > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ___ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 12:41:06PM -0700, David Goldsmith wrote: > Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. the > Passat? Were there problems with it/them? My money's on the morons your elected officials put in charge of making sure that we don't pollute the segment of the environment that special interests pay us to care about. K
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Where did you hear this? On 8/30/05, David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. the > Passat? Were there problems with it/them? > > DG Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (208k) '84 300D (203k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K)
[MBZ] OT: Why'd VW Pull the TDI Passat?
Anyone know why VW pulled the latest TDI's, esp. the Passat? Were there problems with it/them? DG __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
