Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-02-28 Thread Curt Raymond
I was under the impression an antenna was an antenna, DTV or analog...

Confirmation: http://www.dennysantennaservice.com/1373792.html


-Curt

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:15:50 -0600
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re:  OT Pinnacle TV adapter
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I'm using the ancient omnidirectional antenna my father put up in the  
antic 40 years ago or more for FM.  Works just fine for analog (lots  
of snow, but good audio signal), but I'll have to put on a new  
antenna this spring for digital.  Fortunately we have most of the  
transmitters off to the southeast, only one station is to the north  
and we can't get that all the time now, even analog.

I suppose I'll have to get a rotator for that one.

Vastly cheaper than cable, and since you can only get ONE PBS station  
on cable no matter where you are or how many are out there, I'm  
sticking with broadcast in any case.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-02-28 Thread Wilton Strickland
'My thoughts, too.  'Seems they jack the price of 'em way the hell up and
get TWO prices for 'em - the $40 from Uncle plus another $40 - $50 from
consumer.

Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter


> Craig McCluskey wrote:
>
> > With the change to digital TV a few days ago, will it still work?
>
> The ones with digital tuners, yes. It's been a few years since they made
them
> with analog only tuners.
> The analog model I bought in 2002 requires a converter box.
>
> When I bought my converter last weekend, it was interesting to see that a
> Magnavox converter was $50 (no mechanical parts, not even a power button),
> when the Magnavox progressive scan DVD player sitting next to it on the
shelf
> was $30. I figure the converter is selling for 3-4x what it should, due to
$40
> per unit of government price support.
>
>   Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-02-28 Thread Mitch Haley

Wilton Strickland wrote:

1 Jun, people still won't be "ready."


One of my local stations did the switchover a week and a half ago.
Another station disappeared sometime between Thanksgiving and Christmas, and I 
was surprised to find out it still existed when I set up my parents' digital 
converters over the holidays. Seemed odd that they turned off their analog 
signal 2-3 months early.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-02-28 Thread Mitch Haley

Craig McCluskey wrote:


With the change to digital TV a few days ago, will it still work?


The ones with digital tuners, yes. It's been a few years since they made them 
with analog only tuners.

The analog model I bought in 2002 requires a converter box.

When I bought my converter last weekend, it was interesting to see that a 
Magnavox converter was $50 (no mechanical parts, not even a power button),
when the Magnavox progressive scan DVD player sitting next to it on the shelf 
was $30. I figure the converter is selling for 3-4x what it should, due to $40 
per unit of government price support.


 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-02-27 Thread Loren Faeth
Thanks Dan.  I guess I won't buy the pinnacle one.  Its a shame 
because what I read said it was good, but the SW was not so hot, but 
that WiMP or other software could be used.  Everything at OWC is at 
least twice the price, so I won't be buying any of those either.


At 08:53 PM 2/27/2009, you wrote:

Just look at the OWC Mac TV page:

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/video/Computer_TV_Tuners_DVR_Input_Output

Take note that most of the products there are from Elgato.

MacDan



Loren Faeth 



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Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-02-27 Thread Wilton Strickland
1 Jun, people still won't be "ready."

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter


> About half out local stations (including the PBS -- saving $$$) did the
> switch anyway.  Some of them have the analog up on lower power, showing
> an informercial about why nobody ain't gittin deir TB on that channel no
mo.
>
> --R
>
> Curt Raymond wrote:
> > The change over is delayed again. Apparently our government has decided
nobody needs to take responsibility for their own televisions in a timely
fashion. I'm extremely steamed about this right now since its basically
gonna screw me out of a bonus this year since TV stations will have to pay
to continue analog transmission during which time they won't be able to
afford any new gear from us...
> >
> > Anyway it appears all the PCTV line is ATSC compliant:
> >
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tun
ers/PCTV+Digital+PVR+%28DVB-S_DVB-T%29/HD+mini+Stick
> >
> > I'd expect anything that said it was HD compliant to support digital
SD...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:39:45 -0700
> > From: Craig McCluskey 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Message-ID: <20090227173945.24df85a2.diese...@cnsp.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> > On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:44:47 -0600 Loren Faeth

> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Has anyone had experience with the Pinnacle TV adapter?  I'd like to
> >> know what you think about it.
> >> I came across a "deal" to buy a
> >>
> >> Pinnacle 82301003001 PCTV HD Mini Stick for MAC & PC for $70
> >>
> >> My plan is to use it with a Powerbook G4 1.25 or a macbook.
> >>
> >
> > With the change to digital TV a few days ago, will it still work?
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-02-27 Thread Rich Thomas
About half out local stations (including the PBS -- saving $$$) did the 
switch anyway.  Some of them have the analog up on lower power, showing 
an informercial about why nobody ain't gittin deir TB on that channel no mo.


--R

Curt Raymond wrote:

The change over is delayed again. Apparently our government has decided nobody 
needs to take responsibility for their own televisions in a timely fashion. I'm 
extremely steamed about this right now since its basically gonna screw me out 
of a bonus this year since TV stations will have to pay to continue analog 
transmission during which time they won't be able to afford any new gear from 
us...

Anyway it appears all the PCTV line is ATSC compliant:
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tuners/PCTV+Digital+PVR+%28DVB-S_DVB-T%29/HD+mini+Stick

I'd expect anything that said it was HD compliant to support digital SD...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:39:45 -0700
From: Craig McCluskey 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:44:47 -0600 Loren Faeth 
wrote:

  
Has anyone had experience with the Pinnacle TV adapter?  I'd like to 
know what you think about it.

I came across a "deal" to buy a

Pinnacle 82301003001 PCTV HD Mini Stick for MAC & PC for $70

My plan is to use it with a Powerbook G4 1.25 or a macbook.



With the change to digital TV a few days ago, will it still work?


Craig



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-02-27 Thread Curt Raymond
The change over is delayed again. Apparently our government has decided nobody 
needs to take responsibility for their own televisions in a timely fashion. I'm 
extremely steamed about this right now since its basically gonna screw me out 
of a bonus this year since TV stations will have to pay to continue analog 
transmission during which time they won't be able to afford any new gear from 
us...

Anyway it appears all the PCTV line is ATSC compliant:
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tuners/PCTV+Digital+PVR+%28DVB-S_DVB-T%29/HD+mini+Stick

I'd expect anything that said it was HD compliant to support digital SD...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:39:45 -0700
From: Craig McCluskey 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:44:47 -0600 Loren Faeth 
wrote:

> Has anyone had experience with the Pinnacle TV adapter?  I'd like to 
> know what you think about it.
> I came across a "deal" to buy a
> 
> Pinnacle 82301003001 PCTV HD Mini Stick for MAC & PC for $70
> 
> My plan is to use it with a Powerbook G4 1.25 or a macbook.

With the change to digital TV a few days ago, will it still work?


Craig



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-02-27 Thread LWB250
Just look at the OWC Mac TV page:

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/video/Computer_TV_Tuners_DVR_Input_Output

Take note that most of the products there are from Elgato.

MacDan


--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Craig McCluskey  wrote:

> From: Craig McCluskey 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 7:39 PM
> On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:44:47 -0600
> Loren Faeth 
> wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone had experience with the Pinnacle TV
> adapter?  I'd like to 
> > know what you think about it.
> > I came across a "deal" to buy a
> > 
> > Pinnacle 82301003001 PCTV HD Mini Stick for MAC &
> PC for $70
> > 
> > My plan is to use it with a Powerbook G4 1.25 or a
> macbook.
> 
> With the change to digital TV a few days ago, will it still
> work?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-02-27 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:44:47 -0600 Loren Faeth 
wrote:

> Has anyone had experience with the Pinnacle TV adapter?  I'd like to 
> know what you think about it.
> I came across a "deal" to buy a
> 
> Pinnacle 82301003001 PCTV HD Mini Stick for MAC & PC for $70
> 
> My plan is to use it with a Powerbook G4 1.25 or a macbook.

With the change to digital TV a few days ago, will it still work?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-02-27 Thread Peter Frederick
I just bought a new television -- the old one was a hand-me-down,  
almost 20 years old, and didn't have a functioning tuner.


Doing my part to keep the economy running.

Peter

On Feb 27, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:


Loren Faeth wrote:
Has anyone had experience with the Pinnacle TV adapter?  I'd like  
to know what you think about it.

I came across a "deal" to buy a
Pinnacle 82301003001 PCTV HD Mini Stick for MAC & PC for $70


Circuit City's customer reviews were a great research tool, too bad  
their web site is gone.


Amazon.com has reviews too.

Looks like Hauppauge now owns Pinnacle, so there goes the  
competition from that market. I wonder if Curt could shed any light  
on that?


http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-22427-PCTV-Mini-Stick/dp/B001PBKJ9U
http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-82301006561-Pctv-Mini-Stick/dp/ 
B001G5LCEQ


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-02-27 Thread Curt Raymond
I wondered if I'd come up...

I can't tell you any more than a well informed financial analyst could, PCTV 
really didn't fit in with anything else we made, we make editing apps, why did 
we ever make TV tuners? I guess it fit in with the digital home stuff but we 
never really made any money on it...

-Curt



Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:16:20 -0500
From: Mitch Haley 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter
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Loren Faeth wrote:
> Has anyone had experience with the Pinnacle TV adapter?  I'd like to 
> know what you think about it.
> I came across a "deal" to buy a
> 
> Pinnacle 82301003001 PCTV HD Mini Stick for MAC & PC for $70

Circuit City's customer reviews were a great research tool, too bad their web 
site is gone.

Amazon.com has reviews too.

Looks like Hauppauge now owns Pinnacle, so there goes the competition from that 
market. I wonder if Curt could shed any light on that?

http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-22427-PCTV-Mini-Stick/dp/B001PBKJ9U
http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-82301006561-Pctv-Mini-Stick/dp/B001G5LCEQ

Mitch.


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-02-27 Thread LWB250
If you want a TV input device for your Mac, don't buy anything other than an 
Elgato device.  They have a bunch of different ones, but on the lower end are 
some USB types.  Not only are they designed specifically for Macs, their 
software kicks everyone else's butt when it comes to the interface, user 
friendliness, and scheduling/time shifting.

Miglia would be my second choice, but only if I bought Elgato software (EyeTV) 
for it, as Miglia's software (The Tube) sucks.

Check OWC's Web site for the Elgato stuff - they always have deals on refurbs 
for the USB ones.

Dan (watching PIP with my EyeTV while I type)



--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Loren Faeth  wrote:

> From: Loren Faeth 
> Subject: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:44 AM
> Has anyone had experience with the
> Pinnacle TV adapter?  I'd like to know what you think
> about it.
> I came across a "deal" to buy a
> 
> Pinnacle 82301003001 PCTV HD Mini Stick for MAC & PC
> for $70
> 
> My plan is to use it with a Powerbook G4 1.25 or a
> macbook.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-02-27 Thread Mitch Haley

Loren Faeth wrote:
Has anyone had experience with the Pinnacle TV adapter?  I'd like to 
know what you think about it.

I came across a "deal" to buy a

Pinnacle 82301003001 PCTV HD Mini Stick for MAC & PC for $70


Circuit City's customer reviews were a great research tool, too bad their web 
site is gone.


Amazon.com has reviews too.

Looks like Hauppauge now owns Pinnacle, so there goes the competition from that 
market. I wonder if Curt could shed any light on that?


http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-22427-PCTV-Mini-Stick/dp/B001PBKJ9U
http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-82301006561-Pctv-Mini-Stick/dp/B001G5LCEQ

Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-02-27 Thread Loren Faeth
Has anyone had experience with the Pinnacle TV adapter?  I'd like to 
know what you think about it.

I came across a "deal" to buy a

Pinnacle 82301003001 PCTV HD Mini Stick for MAC & PC for $70

My plan is to use it with a Powerbook G4 1.25 or a macbook.



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