Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-20 Thread Gerry Archer

Tried SRWare Iron twice and it froze XP requiring reboot.
Gerry

From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

Read a few reviews, and it appears that most of the alternative browsers
have weak spots.  SRWare Iron doesn't report to Mother Google, instead it
reports back to SR, who then sells your data (so Google is simply cut out 
of

the money stream, no reduction in spyware).

I'll stick with FF and IE for now, they are free and work, and I can't
really see any advantage to another browser.

-Max

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

No - try SRWare Iron (Chrome without the spyware).

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Max Dillon
meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote:


No, should I
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Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

Agreed, Firefox is a bit of a pig these days.  Tried Chrome?


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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-20 Thread Rick Knoble
Try Chromium. It is the foundation of Google Chrome. I think Google ripped off, 
uh I mean licensed their browser. 

http://www.chromium.org/

Rick
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:30 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Tried SRWare Iron twice and it froze XP requiring reboot.
 Gerry
 
 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
 Read a few reviews, and it appears that most of the alternative browsers
 have weak spots.  SRWare Iron doesn't report to Mother Google, instead it
 reports back to SR, who then sells your data (so Google is simply cut out of
 the money stream, no reduction in spyware).
 
 I'll stick with FF and IE for now, they are free and work, and I can't
 really see any advantage to another browser.
 
 -Max
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
 Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:43 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?
 
 No - try SRWare Iron (Chrome without the spyware).
 
 On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Max Dillon
 meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote:
 
 No, should I
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 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 
 Agreed, Firefox is a bit of a pig these days.  Tried Chrome?
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-20 Thread Gerry Archer

Thanks, Rick, I'll try it tonight.
Gerry

From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
Try Chromium. It is the foundation of Google Chrome. I think Google ripped 
off, uh I mean licensed their browser.


http://www.chromium.org/

Rick
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:30 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com 
wrote:



Tried SRWare Iron twice and it froze XP requiring reboot.
Gerry

From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

Read a few reviews, and it appears that most of the alternative browsers
have weak spots.  SRWare Iron doesn't report to Mother Google, instead 
it
reports back to SR, who then sells your data (so Google is simply cut 
out of

the money stream, no reduction in spyware).

I'll stick with FF and IE for now, they are free and work, and I can't
really see any advantage to another browser.

-Max

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK 
Don

Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:43 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

No - try SRWare Iron (Chrome without the spyware).

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Max Dillon
meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote:


No, should I
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Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

Agreed, Firefox is a bit of a pig these days.  Tried Chrome?


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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-20 Thread Tim Crone
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Try Chromium. It is the foundation of Google Chrome. I think Google ripped 
 off, uh I mean licensed their browser.

 http://www.chromium.org/

Chrome is the version for people, you may recall at the time that it
was impractical to think another closed-source browser would achieve
wide adoption so Google set it up with an open-source foundation.  You
will notice that still most of the Chromium developers work for
Google, and developing and maintaining Chromium is part of their job.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)#History

If you don't use gmail/etc. then Chromium is fine, and should work the
same as Chrome without the calls to Google.

Best,
-Tim

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer? Give it a polish.

2013-02-20 Thread Hendrik and fay
I've been using chromium for a couple of weeks and am quite happy with 
it, bit of a pain to set up but that's the same with any new browser. 
Been using FF for a long time but noticed it was starting to eat up a 
lot of resources, especially if you got a lot of tabs, as I tend to 
sometimes.


Hendrik
who is trying to diagnose a rough running Briggs and Straton

On 21/02/13 00:25, Gerry Archer wrote:

Thanks, Rick, I'll try it tonight.
Gerry

From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
Try Chromium. It is the foundation of Google Chrome. I think Google 
ripped off, uh I mean licensed their browser.


http://www.chromium.org/

Rick





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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-19 Thread Allan Streib
Agreed, Firefox is a bit of a pig these days.  Tried Chrome?

Allan

Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes:

 Firefox (and any add-ins) might be the problem.  I watch FF system usage 
 on my Mac, when I first start it the memory usage is like 400MB, after 
 restarting a coupla hours ago it is now up to 784.5MB, in a while it 
 will be over 1GB with not a lot going on.  Sometimes it starts using 
 over 100% of one or more CPUs (there are 4 cores). I don't think it is 
 wrting a lot to disk so that is not an issue, but FF seems to be a huge 
 resource hog these days, and badly behaved.  Some script in Facebook 
 regularly crashes in FF too, which locks up FF for a few seconds.  Other 
 things seem to randomly lock up FF too for a few to several seconds.  I 
 killed a coupla add-ins and it is a little better but still does not 
 play well.

 All that says you might want to look at FF and your add-ins, something 
 might be acting badly.  Then on top of Winders... it might start junking 
 up your drive with something?

 --R


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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-19 Thread Max Dillon
No, should I
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Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

Agreed, Firefox is a bit of a pig these days.  Tried Chrome?


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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-19 Thread OK Don
No - try SRWare Iron (Chrome without the spyware).

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 No, should I
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 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Agreed, Firefox is a bit of a pig these days.  Tried Chrome?
 

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-19 Thread Benz Hogs

WOW, I'm sold on WinPatrol.

The success of WinPatrol has always been dependant on our reputation. 
Upgrades to PLUS remain the only source of income and makes the support 
and development of WinPatrol possible. WinPatrol will never install 
crapware or toolbars even though well known legitimate companies feel 
it's acceptable.


WinPatrol doesn't pay download sites for placement so we depend on users 
spreading the word and on industry experts telling their followers to 
download WinPatrol safely from WinPatrol.com.



Thanks for the suggestion!

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (161,xxx mi)

On 2/18/2013 2:51 PM, Fmiser wrote:

Max Dillon wrote:



Using windows explorer, it appears that I can only account for
about 60 GB on the HD; 35 GB for users and a little over 20
for the windows system.


I have often used a little utility called DirSize that shows a
simple tree with the folders sorted by size.  It makes it easy
to identify where the disk-hog is.

I think this is the one I have. :)
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/BF-DirSize.shtml

For keeping a system clean, I like to include WinPatrol as it
alerts me when there is a change to system files and directories.

http://www.winpatrol.com/

I haven't even had to clean an infected MSWin system, so I have
no advise for you there...

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-19 Thread Tim Crone
I found 7 to be much faster on the same hardware, and in general has been
compatible with pretty much all my XP drivers in 32 bit mode.

BTW you can install 32 or 64 with either license.

Best,
Tim
On Feb 18, 2013 7:15 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Thought about that, not sure if SWMBO would survive the upgrade.  Going
 from XP to Vista was tough, would have to approach that one carefully.

 --
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 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It might be worth checking to see if you can get a copy of Win7 cheap
 on eBay. I made images of identical machines at work, Vista made a 28GB
 image (using clonezilla), Win7 took 8GB...
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:33:05 -0600
 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?
 Message-ID: a06240833cd484de4b807@[192.168.1.51]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed
 
 Not to be a smart*** but one well known winders author and tech said
 it best.  Wissta IS a virus.  Only he pronounced it the way BillG
 does.
 
 I figgered that should be good for a laugh although its not very
 funny to you right now.
 
 
 Sorry, OS is Vista Home Premium.
 
 -Max
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-19 Thread Curt Raymond
I agree whole heartedly which is why I suggested it.

Also you NEED to get on Chrome or one of the variants. I gave up Firefox a few 
years ago when it was updating every couple days. Thats a sign of lousy SQA...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:18:49 -0500
From: Tim Crone t...@crone.us
To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I found 7 to be much faster on the same hardware, and in general has been
compatible with pretty much all my XP drivers in 32 bit mode.

BTW you can install 32 or 64 with either license.

Best,
Tim
On Feb 18, 2013 7:15 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Thought about that, not sure if SWMBO would survive the upgrade.  Going
 from XP to Vista was tough, would have to approach that one carefully.

 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It might be worth checking to see if you can get a copy of Win7 cheap
 on eBay. I made images of identical machines at work, Vista made a 28GB
 image (using clonezilla), Win7 took 8GB...
 
 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-19 Thread Max Dillon
Read a few reviews, and it appears that most of the alternative browsers
have weak spots.  SRWare Iron doesn't report to Mother Google, instead it
reports back to SR, who then sells your data (so Google is simply cut out of
the money stream, no reduction in spyware).

I'll stick with FF and IE for now, they are free and work, and I can't
really see any advantage to another browser.

-Max

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:43 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

No - try SRWare Iron (Chrome without the spyware).

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Max Dillon
meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 No, should I
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 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Agreed, Firefox is a bit of a pig these days.  Tried Chrome?
 

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-19 Thread Max Dillon
Chrome is voluntary assimilation into the Borg (Google) if you believe the
reviews.  Feeds all your browser activity to Google minimum of once per 24
hrs, if your computer is on line.

TANSTAFL continues to apply...

-Max

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
Raymond
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:36 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

I agree whole heartedly which is why I suggested it.

Also you NEED to get on Chrome or one of the variants. I gave up Firefox a
few years ago when it was updating every couple days. Thats a sign of lousy
SQA...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:18:49 -0500
From: Tim Crone t...@crone.us
To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?
Message-ID:
cahehqj1h8oonsye8o_p7pkg2qtoou8c7pneunwqwsumhzi7...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I found 7 to be much faster on the same hardware, and in general has been
compatible with pretty much all my XP drivers in 32 bit mode.

BTW you can install 32 or 64 with either license.

Best,
Tim
On Feb 18, 2013 7:15 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Thought about that, not sure if SWMBO would survive the upgrade.  
 Going from XP to Vista was tough, would have to approach that one
carefully.

 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It might be worth checking to see if you can get a copy of Win7 cheap 
 on eBay. I made images of identical machines at work, Vista made a 
 28GB image (using clonezilla), Win7 took 8GB...
 
 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-19 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks to all who offered advice.  Tonight I checked my HD properties, and
now it is down to 71 GB used, about 29 GB free.  Only thing different is a
reboot or two, and threatening it with Malwarebytes (both in normal OS mode
and safe mode).  In review, I started on this odyssey when my HD was
thrashing and free space was down to as little as 7 GB on a 100GB drive at
one point.

Yesterday Malwarebytes found 36 objects in the quick scan, normal OS mode
vice safe mode, most were remnants of some malware from a few months ago
that took over my default search tool and forced all my searches through
something called funmoods.  There were a couple other odd balls, not sure
what they were, mild threats according to MWB.  Cleaned them all.  No real
change immediately after that, which was yesterday, but today all seems
well.  Full scans, both in normal mode and safe mode, found zero, but took
hours.

I suspect that pagefile size may have been the culprit, haven't played with
any settings, but the size tonight is less than 1 GB.

Spybot SD didn't seem to help much, it found some registry changes it
didn't like.  I allowed it to fix those, didn't notice any difference.

Pop-up ads seem to be vanquished from Firefox for now, MWB seems to be the
hero.

I'd say the thing that made the biggest difference was deleting a bunch of
crapware and using the utilities (Disk Clean and Defrag).  I also took the
liberty of deleting a ton of spam from SWMBO's email, but that was maybe a
hundred MB or so, not a significant amount of HD space.

I really need to get some external storage and move all home pix/movies and
SWMBO's music files off the HD.  

I'm also strongly considering a fresh installation of Win7.

-Max




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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-19 Thread Max Dillon
Should read TANSTAAFL...there ain't no such thing as a free lunch, Robert 
Heinlein.
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'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Chrome is voluntary assimilation into the Borg (Google) if you believe
the
reviews.  Feeds all your browser activity to Google minimum of once per
24
hrs, if your computer is on line.

TANSTAFL continues to apply...

-Max

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
Raymond
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:36 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

I agree whole heartedly which is why I suggested it.

Also you NEED to get on Chrome or one of the variants. I gave up
Firefox a
few years ago when it was updating every couple days. Thats a sign of
lousy
SQA...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:18:49 -0500
From: Tim Crone t...@crone.us
To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?
Message-ID:
   cahehqj1h8oonsye8o_p7pkg2qtoou8c7pneunwqwsumhzi7...@mail.gmail.com
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I found 7 to be much faster on the same hardware, and in general has
been
compatible with pretty much all my XP drivers in 32 bit mode.

BTW you can install 32 or 64 with either license.

Best,
Tim
On Feb 18, 2013 7:15 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
wrote:

 Thought about that, not sure if SWMBO would survive the upgrade.  
 Going from XP to Vista was tough, would have to approach that one
carefully.

 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It might be worth checking to see if you can get a copy of Win7
cheap 
 on eBay. I made images of identical machines at work, Vista made a 
 28GB image (using clonezilla), Win7 took 8GB...
 
 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-19 Thread Craig
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:42:55 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 No - try SRWare Iron (Chrome without the spyware).

There is a version of SRWare Iron for Linux, but it won't install on my
CentOS 5.9. It will have to wait until I update to CentOS 6.x.


 Read a few reviews, and it appears that most of the alternative browsers
 have weak spots.  SRWare Iron doesn't report to Mother Google, instead
 it reports back to SR, who then sells your data (so Google is simply
 cut out of the money stream, no reduction in spyware).

According to their website at
http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_faq.php,

  Can i really check that Iron doesn't submit any private data, how
  you say?

  Yes, you can. There are tools like Wireshark, which scan the whole
  network-traffic. We could not recognize any obvious activity. But
  you can proof this by yourself. PS: We also disabled the
  DNS-Precaching by default, because this could perhaps used by
  spammers (see this Link:
http://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/dns-prefetching-or-pre-resolving.html )


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-19 Thread Mitch Haley

Max Dillon wrote:


Yesterday Malwarebytes found 36 objects in the quick scan, normal OS mode
vice safe mode... Full scans, both in normal mode and safe mode, found zero, 
but took
hours.


Good to know that the quick scan was as effective as the full scan for you.
I've got it (paid version) scheduled to do a quick scan every afternoon after 
updating, and a full scan on Saturdays. Can't remember the last time anything 
came of it. I do occasionally get blocked web pages from MWB, usually when I try 
to download a file from a file sharing site.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
I'm suspicious that something has infected my home computer.  What AV tools do 
you guys recommend for cleaning up?  I really don't want to reload the OS.

Hard disc has recently become nearly full, 90+ GB used out of 100 available.  
Hard drive light was on almost continuously, but computer performance didn't 
seem too bad, for a five year old laptop.

Using windows explorer, it appears that I can only account for about 60 GB on 
the HD; 35 GB for users and a little over 20 for the windows system.

Yesterday I made a concerted effort to clean up the HD.  Deleted a bunch of 
software I didn't need, used the disk
clean up utility and also defrag.

Had the disk size down to 82 GB or less, HD light back to normal behavior.

This a.m., disk size is back to 92 GB!  
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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Mitch Haley

Malwarebytes.

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Allan Streib
That's a good one.  I've also had success with SpyBot and Avast.  All
are free or have free versions.



Sometimes you need more than one tool to clean everything up.



If you don't need Java, uninstall it.  Or at least disable the Java
plugin in your browsers.  It has been a security nightmare recently.



Also be sure all your Adobe software (Flash, Acrobat) is up to date,
that's another common attack vector.



If you have another computer, use that to download MalwareBytes and put
it on a flash drive.  I've seem some malware that will prevent common
cleanup programs from being downloaded, or prevent them from running.
If you have this problem, try renaming the .exe before you run it.



Allan







On Mon, Feb 18, 2013, at 08:43 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Malwarebytes.



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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Jim Cathey

Browser caches can also be surprisingly large.  Did you
dump those?  I find the best malware preventative to be
Mac OSX.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Dieselhead
Microsoft security essentials  Free (as a preventative)  not sure how 
it works after the fact, but should be ok.  I agree with Jim Cathey's 
comment also.




I'm suspicious that something has infected my home computer.  What 
AV tools do you guys recommend for cleaning up?  I really don't want 
to reload the OS.


Hard disc has recently become nearly full, 90+ GB used out of 100 
available.  Hard drive light was on almost continuously, but 
computer performance didn't seem too bad, for a five year old laptop.


Using windows explorer, it appears that I can only account for about 
60 GB on the HD; 35 GB for users and a little over 20 for the 
windows system.


Yesterday I made a concerted effort to clean up the HD.  Deleted a 
bunch of software I didn't need, used the disk

clean up utility and also defrag.

Had the disk size down to 82 GB or less, HD light back to normal behavior.

This a.m., disk size is back to 92 GB! 
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Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20



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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
Will give that a try.
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Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Malwarebytes.

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
Spybot scanning right now.
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Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

That's a good one.  I've also had success with SpyBot and Avast.  All
are free or have free versions.



Sometimes you need more than one tool to clean everything up.



If you don't need Java, uninstall it.  Or at least disable the Java
plugin in your browsers.  It has been a security nightmare recently.



Also be sure all your Adobe software (Flash, Acrobat) is up to date,
that's another common attack vector.



If you have another computer, use that to download MalwareBytes and put
it on a flash drive.  I've seem some malware that will prevent common
cleanup programs from being downloaded, or prevent them from running.
If you have this problem, try renaming the .exe before you run it.



Allan







On Mon, Feb 18, 2013, at 08:43 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Malwarebytes.



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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
Did dump those using disk clean utility.
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Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

Browser caches can also be surprisingly large.  Did you
dump those?  I find the best malware preventative to be
Mac OSX.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
Using MSE for about a year, problem occurred in last few months.  Switching OS 
is not an option.
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Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Microsoft security essentials  Free (as a preventative)  not sure how 
it works after the fact, but should be ok.  I agree with Jim Cathey's 
comment also.



I'm suspicious that something has infected my home computer.  What 
AV tools do you guys recommend for cleaning up?  I really don't want 
to reload the OS.

Hard disc has recently become nearly full, 90+ GB used out of 100 
available.  Hard drive light was on almost continuously, but 
computer performance didn't seem too bad, for a five year old laptop.

Using windows explorer, it appears that I can only account for about 
60 GB on the HD; 35 GB for users and a little over 20 for the 
windows system.

Yesterday I made a concerted effort to clean up the HD.  Deleted a 
bunch of software I didn't need, used the disk
clean up utility and also defrag.

Had the disk size down to 82 GB or less, HD light back to normal
behavior.

This a.m., disk size is back to 92 GB! 
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20


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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Frederick Moir
Max.
Malwarebytes anti-rootkit is free in beta from their site. Gets rid of hard to 
remove infections.
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.



 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?
 
Will give that a try.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Malwarebytes.

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Rick Knoble
On Feb 18, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I'm suspicious that something has infected my home computer.  What AV tools 
 do you guys recommend for cleaning up?


Malwarebytes, Avira, Super Antispyware. 


 I really don't want to reload the OS.

And folks with cancer don't want surgery or chemo. 

 Had the disk size down to 82 GB or less, HD light back to normal behavior.
 
 This a.m., disk size is back to 92 GB!  


Swap file? Extraneous crapware someone installed? One effective method of 
limiting the chances of infection, and also limiting the damages from an 
infection, is different user accounts. On my pc's there is an Owner account, 
who is empowered as the administrator. I have individual user accounts set up 
for users of the computer. Those accounts are limited, so they cannot install 
software. No toolbars, no games, nothing. I use a limited account, except when 
doing computer maintenance. It has made life much simpler. 

Of course the best solution I have found is Linux...
Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Curt Raymond
You didn't say what OS.

I've been using Microsoft Security Essentials which seems to work pretty well. 
Boot into safemode, update and run. Same advice with Malwarebytes.

For extra stuff look for temp directories in the Windows directory.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:36:58 -0500
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT infected computer?
Message-ID: 3c0f9f4d-fe65-4faa-9141-af27ab541...@email.android.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I'm suspicious that something has infected my home computer.  What AV tools do 
you guys recommend for cleaning up?  I really don't want to reload the OS.

Hard disc has recently become nearly full, 90+ GB used out of 100 available.  
Hard drive light was on almost continuously, but computer performance didn't 
seem too bad, for a five year old laptop.

Using windows explorer, it appears that I can only account for about 60 GB on 
the HD; 35 GB for users and a little over 20 for the windows system.

Yesterday I made a concerted effort to clean up the HD.  Deleted a bunch of 
software I didn't need, used the disk
clean up utility and also defrag.

Had the disk size down to 82 GB or less, HD light back to normal behavior.

This a.m., disk size is back to 92 GB!  
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Scott Ritchey

Avira (pay version but free one avail too) and Spybot.  I also use System
Mechanic for general maintenance.  

Avira has a feature where you can burn an image to CD (or usb stick) and
boot a a Linux version of Avira from the CD (or usb) to scan the PC.  This
bypasses any mayware that might be on your hard drive.

Syatem Mechanic deletes junk files routinely as part of the auto scan.

Could your problem be hidden Windows files?  Is your Explorer set to display
hidden files?

Scott

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max
Dillon
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:37 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

I'm suspicious that something has infected my home computer.  What AV tools
do you guys recommend for cleaning up?  I really don't want to reload the
OS.

Hard disc has recently become nearly full, 90+ GB used out of 100 available.
Hard drive light was on almost continuously, but computer performance didn't
seem too bad, for a five year old laptop.

Using windows explorer, it appears that I can only account for about 60 GB
on the HD; 35 GB for users and a little over 20 for the windows system.

Yesterday I made a concerted effort to clean up the HD.  Deleted a bunch of
software I didn't need, used the disk
clean up utility and also defrag.

Had the disk size down to 82 GB or less, HD light back to normal behavior.

This a.m., disk size is back to 92 GB!  
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
Not hidden files, thought of that and un-hid them, they only account for a
few percent of the hard drive space in use.

-Max

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Ritchey
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:12 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?


Avira (pay version but free one avail too) and Spybot.  I also use System
Mechanic for general maintenance.  

Avira has a feature where you can burn an image to CD (or usb stick) and
boot a a Linux version of Avira from the CD (or usb) to scan the PC.  This
bypasses any mayware that might be on your hard drive.

Syatem Mechanic deletes junk files routinely as part of the auto scan.

Could your problem be hidden Windows files?  Is your Explorer set to display
hidden files?

Scott

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max
Dillon
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:37 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

I'm suspicious that something has infected my home computer.  What AV tools
do you guys recommend for cleaning up?  I really don't want to reload the
OS.

Hard disc has recently become nearly full, 90+ GB used out of 100 available.
Hard drive light was on almost continuously, but computer performance didn't
seem too bad, for a five year old laptop.

Using windows explorer, it appears that I can only account for about 60 GB
on the HD; 35 GB for users and a little over 20 for the windows system.

Yesterday I made a concerted effort to clean up the HD.  Deleted a bunch of
software I didn't need, used the disk clean up utility and also defrag.

Had the disk size down to 82 GB or less, HD light back to normal behavior.

This a.m., disk size is back to 92 GB!  
--
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Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
Sorry, OS is Vista Home Premium.

So now that Spybot SD has found a bunch of minor stuff and cleaned it, no
change to the HD space and now I'm getting pop-up ads when using Firefox.

May be time to save all user data, wipe and re-load the OS, but I am going
to give Malwarebytes a chance first.

-Max

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
Raymond
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:26 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

You didn't say what OS.

I've been using Microsoft Security Essentials which seems to work pretty
well. Boot into safemode, update and run. Same advice with Malwarebytes.

For extra stuff look for temp directories in the Windows directory.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:36:58 -0500
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT infected computer?
Message-ID: 3c0f9f4d-fe65-4faa-9141-af27ab541...@email.android.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I'm suspicious that something has infected my home computer.  What AV tools
do you guys recommend for cleaning up?  I really don't want to reload the
OS.

Hard disc has recently become nearly full, 90+ GB used out of 100 available.
Hard drive light was on almost continuously, but computer performance didn't
seem too bad, for a five year old laptop.

Using windows explorer, it appears that I can only account for about 60 GB
on the HD; 35 GB for users and a little over 20 for the windows system.

Yesterday I made a concerted effort to clean up the HD.  Deleted a bunch of
software I didn't need, used the disk clean up utility and also defrag.

Had the disk size down to 82 GB or less, HD light back to normal behavior.

This a.m., disk size is back to 92 GB!  
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Fmiser
 Max Dillon wrote:

 Using windows explorer, it appears that I can only account for
 about 60 GB on the HD; 35 GB for users and a little over 20
 for the windows system.

I have often used a little utility called DirSize that shows a
simple tree with the folders sorted by size.  It makes it easy
to identify where the disk-hog is.

I think this is the one I have. :)
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/BF-DirSize.shtml

For keeping a system clean, I like to include WinPatrol as it
alerts me when there is a change to system files and directories.

http://www.winpatrol.com/

I haven't even had to clean an infected MSWin system, so I have
no advise for you there...

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
17 minutes into a Malware Bytes quick scan, 10 objects detected, scan still 
running.

Incidentally, reading their FAQ I learned that running the scan from safe mode 
is not recommended, as some infections will not be found.

-- 
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Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

You didn't say what OS.

I've been using Microsoft Security Essentials which seems to work
pretty well. Boot into safemode, update and run. Same advice with
Malwarebytes.

For extra stuff look for temp directories in the Windows directory.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:36:58 -0500
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT infected computer?
Message-ID: 3c0f9f4d-fe65-4faa-9141-af27ab541...@email.android.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I'm suspicious that something has infected my home computer.  What AV
tools do you guys recommend for cleaning up?  I really don't want to
reload the OS.

Hard disc has recently become nearly full, 90+ GB used out of 100
available.  Hard drive light was on almost continuously, but computer
performance didn't seem too bad, for a five year old laptop.

Using windows explorer, it appears that I can only account for about 60
GB on the HD; 35 GB for users and a little over 20 for the windows
system.

Yesterday I made a concerted effort to clean up the HD.  Deleted a
bunch of software I didn't need, used the disk
clean up utility and also defrag.

Had the disk size down to 82 GB or less, HD light back to normal
behavior.

This a.m., disk size is back to 92 GB!  


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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Dieselhead
Not to be a smart*** but one well known winders author and tech said 
it best.  Wissta IS a virus.  Only he pronounced it the way BillG 
does.


I figgered that should be good for a laugh although its not very 
funny to you right now.




Sorry, OS is Vista Home Premium.

-Max


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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Dieselhead

Good one Philip.  I have not seen that one before.


  Max Dillon wrote:


 Using windows explorer, it appears that I can only account for
 about 60 GB on the HD; 35 GB for users and a little over 20
 for the windows system.


I have often used a little utility called DirSize that shows a
simple tree with the folders sorted by size.  It makes it easy
to identify where the disk-hog is.

I think this is the one I have. :)
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/BF-DirSize.shtml

For keeping a system clean, I like to include WinPatrol as it
alerts me when there is a change to system files and directories.

http://www.winpatrol.com/

I haven't even had to clean an infected MSWin system, so I have
no advise for you there...

--Philip


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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Rich Thomas
Firefox (and any add-ins) might be the problem.  I watch FF system usage 
on my Mac, when I first start it the memory usage is like 400MB, after 
restarting a coupla hours ago it is now up to 784.5MB, in a while it 
will be over 1GB with not a lot going on.  Sometimes it starts using 
over 100% of one or more CPUs (there are 4 cores). I don't think it is 
wrting a lot to disk so that is not an issue, but FF seems to be a huge 
resource hog these days, and badly behaved.  Some script in Facebook 
regularly crashes in FF too, which locks up FF for a few seconds.  Other 
things seem to randomly lock up FF too for a few to several seconds.  I 
killed a coupla add-ins and it is a little better but still does not 
play well.


All that says you might want to look at FF and your add-ins, something 
might be acting badly.  Then on top of Winders... it might start junking 
up your drive with something?


--R


On 2/18/13 3:42 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

So now that Spybot SD has found a bunch of minor stuff and cleaned it, no
change to the HD space and now I'm getting pop-up ads when using Firefox.



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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Russ Williams
Max for best results with Malwarebytes run it in the Safe Mode and do a 
Full Scan


On 2/18/2013 14:42, Max Dillon wrote:

Sorry, OS is Vista Home Premium.

So now that Spybot SD has found a bunch of minor stuff and cleaned it, no
change to the HD space and now I'm getting pop-up ads when using Firefox.

May be time to save all user data, wipe and re-load the OS, but I am going
to give Malwarebytes a chance first.

-Max






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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Mitch Haley

Max Dillon wrote:

17 minutes into a Malware Bytes quick scan, 10 objects detected, scan still 
running.


Malwarebytes finds everything, including relatively innocuous tracking cookies.
Try a full scan which looks at every file on the hard drive.
How cluttered is your system? I'm used to spending 3 minutes on a quick scan or 
an hour on a full scan.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
Yes, may look for a copy of XP pro, or Vista Pro, if I need to reload the OS.

This mid-price HP laptop has performed faithful service for almost five years, 
one of those while I was deployed to Iraq.  If I finally need to reload the OS 
now, really can't complain.
-- 
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'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Not to be a smart*** but one well known winders author and tech said 
it best.  Wissta IS a virus.  Only he pronounced it the way BillG 
does.

I figgered that should be good for a laugh although its not very 
funny to you right now.


Sorry, OS is Vista Home Premium.

-Max

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
What do you recommend in place of FF?
-- 
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Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

Firefox (and any add-ins) might be the problem.  I watch FF system
usage 
on my Mac, when I first start it the memory usage is like 400MB, after 
restarting a coupla hours ago it is now up to 784.5MB, in a while it 
will be over 1GB with not a lot going on.  Sometimes it starts using 
over 100% of one or more CPUs (there are 4 cores). I don't think it is 
wrting a lot to disk so that is not an issue, but FF seems to be a huge

resource hog these days, and badly behaved.  Some script in Facebook 
regularly crashes in FF too, which locks up FF for a few seconds. 
Other 
things seem to randomly lock up FF too for a few to several seconds.  I

killed a coupla add-ins and it is a little better but still does not 
play well.

All that says you might want to look at FF and your add-ins, something 
might be acting badly.  Then on top of Winders... it might start
junking 
up your drive with something?

--R


On 2/18/13 3:42 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
 So now that Spybot SD has found a bunch of minor stuff and cleaned
it, no
 change to the HD space and now I'm getting pop-up ads when using
Firefox.


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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
May try that after normal mode, but their FAQ says normal mode scan will find 
more than safe mode.
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Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote:

Max for best results with Malwarebytes run it in the Safe Mode and do a

Full Scan

On 2/18/2013 14:42, Max Dillon wrote:
 Sorry, OS is Vista Home Premium.

 So now that Spybot SD has found a bunch of minor stuff and cleaned
it, no
 change to the HD space and now I'm getting pop-up ads when using
Firefox.

 May be time to save all user data, wipe and re-load the OS, but I am
going
 to give Malwarebytes a chance first.

 -Max





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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Gerry Archer

Everyone has their favorite protective programs.  Here's mine:

Crapcleaner:   Run it daily.  Solves many problems
Zonealarm:  Firewall catches most viruses and malware
Avg Free Antivirus:  Catches viruses/malware that get past Zonealarm
Malwarebytes:  Run it occasionally

Tried Security Essentials and it let viruses through on several occasions.
Microsoft occasionally turns it on when they download security patches and I
turn it off when I happen to catch it although it seems compatible with
above programs.

Results?  I never have virus/malware problems.

Computer repair guy told me to always try the simplest fixes first.  On
Windows, the simplest fix is to go back to a previous date before the
problem started.

Gerry

From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

Sorry, OS is Vista Home Premium.
So now that Spybot SD has found a bunch of minor stuff and cleaned it, no
change to the HD space and now I'm getting pop-up ads when using Firefox.
May be time to save all user data, wipe and re-load the OS, but I am going
to give Malwarebytes a chance first.
-Max

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
Raymond
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:26 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

You didn't say what OS.

I've been using Microsoft Security Essentials which seems to work pretty
well. Boot into safemode, update and run. Same advice with Malwarebytes.

For extra stuff look for temp directories in the Windows directory.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:36:58 -0500
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT infected computer?
Message-ID: 3c0f9f4d-fe65-4faa-9141-af27ab541...@email.android.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I'm suspicious that something has infected my home computer.  What AV
tools
do you guys recommend for cleaning up?  I really don't want to reload the
OS.

Hard disc has recently become nearly full, 90+ GB used out of 100
available.
Hard drive light was on almost continuously, but computer performance
didn't
seem too bad, for a five year old laptop.

Using windows explorer, it appears that I can only account for about 60 GB
on the HD; 35 GB for users and a little over 20 for the windows system.

Yesterday I made a concerted effort to clean up the HD.  Deleted a bunch
of
software I didn't need, used the disk clean up utility and also defrag.

Had the disk size down to 82 GB or less, HD light back to normal behavior.

This a.m., disk size is back to 92 GB!
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
I've uncluttered as much as I can, shed about 7GB yesterday, problem is 
something keeps filling up the HD.  Knocked it down from 90+ GB to about 83 GB, 
this morning something had filled it back up to 93 GB.

-- 
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'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Max Dillon wrote:
 17 minutes into a Malware Bytes quick scan, 10 objects detected,
scan still running.

Malwarebytes finds everything, including relatively innocuous tracking
cookies.
Try a full scan which looks at every file on the hard drive.
How cluttered is your system? I'm used to spending 3 minutes on a quick
scan or 
an hour on a full scan.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
Gerry, that is a great idea, I completely forgot about system restore.  
Definitely worth a try.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

Everyone has their favorite protective programs.  Here's mine:

Crapcleaner:   Run it daily.  Solves many problems
Zonealarm:  Firewall catches most viruses and malware
Avg Free Antivirus:  Catches viruses/malware that get past Zonealarm
Malwarebytes:  Run it occasionally

Tried Security Essentials and it let viruses through on several
occasions.
Microsoft occasionally turns it on when they download security patches
and I
turn it off when I happen to catch it although it seems compatible with
above programs.

Results?  I never have virus/malware problems.

Computer repair guy told me to always try the simplest fixes first.  On
Windows, the simplest fix is to go back to a previous date before the
problem started.

Gerry

From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
 Sorry, OS is Vista Home Premium.
 So now that Spybot SD has found a bunch of minor stuff and cleaned
it, no
 change to the HD space and now I'm getting pop-up ads when using
Firefox.
 May be time to save all user data, wipe and re-load the OS, but I am
going
 to give Malwarebytes a chance first.
 -Max

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
Curt
 Raymond
 Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:26 PM
 To: Diesel List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

 You didn't say what OS.

 I've been using Microsoft Security Essentials which seems to work
pretty
 well. Boot into safemode, update and run. Same advice with
Malwarebytes.

 For extra stuff look for temp directories in the Windows directory.

 -Curt

 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:36:58 -0500
 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] OT infected computer?
 Message-ID: 3c0f9f4d-fe65-4faa-9141-af27ab541...@email.android.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 I'm suspicious that something has infected my home computer.  What AV
 tools
 do you guys recommend for cleaning up?  I really don't want to reload
the
 OS.

 Hard disc has recently become nearly full, 90+ GB used out of 100
 available.
 Hard drive light was on almost continuously, but computer performance
 didn't
 seem too bad, for a five year old laptop.

 Using windows explorer, it appears that I can only account for about
60 GB
 on the HD; 35 GB for users and a little over 20 for the windows
system.

 Yesterday I made a concerted effort to clean up the HD.  Deleted a
bunch
 of
 software I didn't need, used the disk clean up utility and also
defrag.

 Had the disk size down to 82 GB or less, HD light back to normal
behavior.

 This a.m., disk size is back to 92 GB!
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

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02/18/13



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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Curt Raymond
It might be worth checking to see if you can get a copy of Win7 cheap on eBay. 
I made images of identical machines at work, Vista made a 28GB image (using 
clonezilla), Win7 took 8GB...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:33:05 -0600
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?
Message-ID: a06240833cd484de4b807@[192.168.1.51]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed

Not to be a smart*** but one well known winders author and tech said 
it best.  Wissta IS a virus.  Only he pronounced it the way BillG 
does.

I figgered that should be good for a laugh although its not very 
funny to you right now.


Sorry, OS is Vista Home Premium.

-Max

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Curt Raymond
I suspect you'll actually want to run it twice, once from SafeMode (where many 
nasties will be disabled) and again in normal mode where some of the nasties 
that were invisible in safemode reappear.

The problem in running it just from normal mode is the nasties that target 
Malwarebytes specifically...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:13:45 -0600
From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?
Message-ID: 5122a799.9030...@eatel.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Max for best results with Malwarebytes run it in the Safe Mode and do a 
Full Scan

On 2/18/2013 14:42, Max Dillon wrote:
 Sorry, OS is Vista Home Premium.

 So now that Spybot SD has found a bunch of minor stuff and cleaned it, no
 change to the HD space and now I'm getting pop-up ads when using Firefox.

 May be time to save all user data, wipe and re-load the OS, but I am going
 to give Malwarebytes a chance first.

 -Max




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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
Thought about that, not sure if SWMBO would survive the upgrade.  Going from XP 
to Vista was tough, would have to approach that one carefully.

-- 
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'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

It might be worth checking to see if you can get a copy of Win7 cheap
on eBay. I made images of identical machines at work, Vista made a 28GB
image (using clonezilla), Win7 took 8GB...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:33:05 -0600
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?
Message-ID: a06240833cd484de4b807@[192.168.1.51]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed

Not to be a smart*** but one well known winders author and tech said 
it best.  Wissta IS a virus.  Only he pronounced it the way BillG 
does.

I figgered that should be good for a laugh although its not very 
funny to you right now.


Sorry, OS is Vista Home Premium.

-Max

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
Good info though, thanks.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

It might be worth checking to see if you can get a copy of Win7 cheap
on eBay. I made images of identical machines at work, Vista made a 28GB
image (using clonezilla), Win7 took 8GB...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:33:05 -0600
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?
Message-ID: a06240833cd484de4b807@[192.168.1.51]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed

Not to be a smart*** but one well known winders author and tech said 
it best.  Wissta IS a virus.  Only he pronounced it the way BillG 
does.

I figgered that should be good for a laugh although its not very 
funny to you right now.


Sorry, OS is Vista Home Premium.

-Max

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Russ Williams
The FAQ may be right BUT I've done 100's of disinfection's with it and 
found running it in

Safe Mode first then in Normal mode gets the job done better.
If you got infected with Malware don't blame your Anti Virus program 
they aren't programed
to remove them Most do an excellent job of stopping viruses, BTW 
Micro$ofts rating from
Excellent in Oct to Poor in Nov and hasn't been recommended since then. 
This comes from AV-Test.org.
You can see their latest report from Dec here: 
http://www.av-test.org/en/tests/home-user/windows-7/novdec-2012/


Russ W.

On 2/18/2013 17:34, Max Dillon wrote:

May try that after normal mode, but their FAQ says normal mode scan will find 
more than safe mode.




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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Curt Raymond
Never upgrade your OS, format and reinstall.

As for SWMBO, don't tell her and she might not notice. Win7 is Vista but good...

-Curt


Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 19:15:53 -0500
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Thought about that, not sure if SWMBO would survive the upgrade.  Going from XP 
to Vista was tough, would have to approach that one carefully.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

It might be worth checking to see if you can get a copy of Win7 cheap
on eBay. I made images of identical machines at work, Vista made a 28GB
image (using clonezilla), Win7 took 8GB...

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Dan Penoff
Another one we use is called Windirstat.

Great tool for identifying what is taking up your hard drive space.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 18, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Max Dillon wrote:
 
 Using windows explorer, it appears that I can only account for
 about 60 GB on the HD; 35 GB for users and a little over 20
 for the windows system.
 
 I have often used a little utility called DirSize that shows a
 simple tree with the folders sorted by size.  It makes it easy
 to identify where the disk-hog is.
 
 I think this is the one I have. :)
 http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/BF-DirSize.shtml
 
 For keeping a system clean, I like to include WinPatrol as it
 alerts me when there is a change to system files and directories.
 
 http://www.winpatrol.com/
 
 I haven't even had to clean an infected MSWin system, so I have
 no advise for you there...
 
 --Philip
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread OK Don
Vista to W7 is a fraction of the trauma that XP to Vista was --- my SWMBO
barely noticed.

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 Thought about that, not sure if SWMBO would survive the upgrade.  Going
 from XP to Vista was tough, would have to approach that one carefully.




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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Dieselhead
I think you can still set W7 to the classic(winders 2000) or 
bubblegum interface.  I set everything to classic.  Not as annoying 
as bubblegum or imitation Mac.



Vista to W7 is a fraction of the trauma that XP to Vista was --- my SWMBO
barely noticed.

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote:


 Thought about that, not sure if SWMBO would survive the upgrade.  Going
 from XP to Vista was tough, would have to approach that one carefully.





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2001 ML320
2012 Passat TDI DSG
1957 C182A



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Re: [MBZ] OT infected computer?

2013-02-18 Thread Dieselhead

 BTW Micro$ofts rating from
Excellent in Oct to Poor in Nov and hasn't been recommended since 
then. This comes from AV-Test.org.
You can see their latest report from Dec here: 
http://www.av-test.org/en/tests/home-user/windows-7/novdec-2012/


Russ W.


Hmmm.   Interesting.  How the mighty fall.  Wonder if there is a 
bottom for them to splatter on.


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