Re: [MBZ] Polishing the CL, etc.

2022-07-17 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Attaboy!!

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> On Jul 16, 2022, at 6:51 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I spent the afternoon fooling around with the car. Someone had not put the 
> center radio stack back in right when I think an AC controller was replaced. 
> Actually not a hard job but I had to do it twice because I forgot to put the 
> cup holder holder back in before putting the wood in. I found a bare wires 
> pair, capped them off, no idea what it went to. I’ll have to investigate 
> more. Some of the plastic screw places are busted but it seemed to be holding 
> together mostly. Old cars, cheap plastic…
> 
> Cleaned the leather and trim, it’s mostly in really good shape so not a lot 
> of effort there. Driver seat has one tear all the other seats look really 
> good. 
> 
> Got the windows all working. When you open a door the glass on that side 
> drops down then goes back up when you close the door. Driver side was not 
> going back up. Did a reset on them all and that cured it. 
> 
> There are some other electrical annoyances but just annoyances.  The IC is 
> still telling me the ABC is unhappy but it seems to be working fine so that 
> is a later effort too. It is holding positions, has not slammed and seems to 
> do what it’s supposed to do. 
> 
> Trunk release button was working the other day now it’s not. Unclear why. 
> With the boot lid up the red light on the switch comes on so it must be 
> getting power. Maybe the release solenoid isn’t working now but the wires 
> were connected. PITA to use the blade key and the fob doesn’t lock/unlock. I 
> think I had that working before when I looked at it first time and I did put 
> new batteries in it, maybe I should do that again. The light on the fob 
> blinks so must be something in the car if it’s actually powered enough. 
> 
> Then I got out a double action polisher I got a couple months ago. Got pads 
> and 3-stage polishing kit for it. Started on the bonnet. Now the car has hail 
> dimples so it’s not going to look new but I figured I‘d see how it works to 
> get the paint buffed up. Did all 3 compounds on 3 different pads which I 
> think I got right. Anyway, a final hand buff with wax and the paint looks 
> pretty good. The black has a lot deeper look to it. I went to U Tube U so 
> never done it before but it looks pretty good for a 20yo car. I’ll have to do 
> the rest of the car soon. 
> 
> I’m liking this car!  104kmi on a 20yo car, not too shabby even with the hail 
> damage. I’ll see if I can get to the DMV this week and get the title 
> transferred and a plate and put it in the rotation. Do an oil change with the 
> $2 sucker, probably do the trans fluid soon too. 722.6 so that’s fairly easy. 
> 
> Fun times!  It’s a very cool car. 
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing the CL, etc.

2022-07-16 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
This is true - both explanations are correct.

In the case of the convertible, it’s not just the air displacement, it’s the 
proper sealing of the window t the convertible or hard top.

-D

> On Jul 16, 2022, at 6:05 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My SL600 and 560SEC do the same thing. I think that’s because the SL also has 
> a convertible top, and the SEC has no window frame and it’s hard to seal well 
> on the outside. As with your CLK cab.  This thing being a pillarless coupé 
> like the SEC needs the waterproofing as well. 
> 
> The salesdude was sorta right, without a window frame the glass needs to be 
> under the roof so it doesn’t leak and if they’re all up it will hit the roof. 
> Mine was doing that (and the SL will too if the battery is dead) so you have 
> to push it in at the top to close it and get it under the lip. 
> 
> It looks really slick with all the windows down. I love the style 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2022, at 8:21 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> When I bought my CLK350 Cabriolet from Phoenix Motor Company, Mrs. Bob 
>> noticed the windows doing their thing when we opened and closed the doors. 
>> She wondered aloud and I proceeded to explain it , ala Dan, and the young 
>> salesdude listened intently. 
>> Later, he got me aside and thanked me for that explanation of why the 
>> windows do what they do. He told me that one of the other salesclowns told 
>> him the reason the windows did that was so they wouldn’t impinge on the 
>> convertible top as the doors were operated and that was the story he was to 
>> tell customers. 
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2022, at 4:50 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> FYI, on coupes and convertibles you get a window “drop” when the door is 
>>> open. Wacky Teutonic engineering designed that because of the surface area 
>>> of the window is so large when you close the door it would take a great 
>>> deal of force to close it (compress the air it’s moving.)
>>> 
>>> That way you can close the door with minimal effort. When it closes, the 
>>> window is moved up to the closed position, sealing the cabin.
>>> 
>>> Getting a “new to you” car and sorting everything out is one of the best 
>>> parts of getting a new car.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Jul 16, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 I spent the afternoon fooling around with the car. Someone had not put 
 the center radio stack back in right when I think an AC controller was 
 replaced. Actually not a hard job but I had to do it twice because I 
 forgot to put the cup holder holder back in before putting the wood in. I 
 found a bare wires pair, capped them off, no idea what it went to. I’ll 
 have to investigate more. Some of the plastic screw places are busted but 
 it seemed to be holding together mostly. Old cars, cheap plastic…
 
 Cleaned the leather and trim, it’s mostly in really good shape so not a 
 lot of effort there. Driver seat has one tear all the other seats look 
 really good. 
 
 Got the windows all working. When you open a door the glass on that side 
 drops down then goes back up when you close the door. Driver side was not 
 going back up. Did a reset on them all and that cured it. 
 
 There are some other electrical annoyances but just annoyances.  The IC is 
 still telling me the ABC is unhappy but it seems to be working fine so 
 that is a later effort too. It is holding positions, has not slammed and 
 seems to do what it’s supposed to do. 
 
 Trunk release button was working the other day now it’s not. Unclear why. 
 With the boot lid up the red light on the switch comes on so it must be 
 getting power. Maybe the release solenoid isn’t working now but the wires 
 were connected. PITA to use the blade key and the fob doesn’t lock/unlock. 
 I think I had that working before when I looked at it first time and I did 
 put new batteries in it, maybe I should do that again. The light on the 
 fob blinks so must be something in the car if it’s actually powered 
 enough. 
 
 Then I got out a double action polisher I got a couple months ago. Got 
 pads and 3-stage polishing kit for it. Started on the bonnet. Now the car 
 has hail dimples so it’s not going to look new but I figured I‘d see how 
 it works to get the paint buffed up. Did all 3 compounds on 3 different 
 pads which I think I got right. Anyway, a final hand buff with wax and the 
 paint looks pretty good. The black has a lot deeper look to it. I went to 
 U Tube U so never done it before but it looks pretty good for a 20yo car. 
 I’ll have to do the rest of the car soon. 
 
 I’m liking this car!  104kmi on a 20yo car, not too shabby even with the 
 hail damage. I’ll see if I can get to the DMV this week and get the titl

Re: [MBZ] Polishing the CL, etc.

2022-07-16 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
My SL600 and 560SEC do the same thing. I think that’s because the SL also has a 
convertible top, and the SEC has no window frame and it’s hard to seal well on 
the outside. As with your CLK cab.  This thing being a pillarless coupé like 
the SEC needs the waterproofing as well. 

The salesdude was sorta right, without a window frame the glass needs to be 
under the roof so it doesn’t leak and if they’re all up it will hit the roof. 
Mine was doing that (and the SL will too if the battery is dead) so you have to 
push it in at the top to close it and get it under the lip. 

It looks really slick with all the windows down. I love the style 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jul 16, 2022, at 8:21 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> When I bought my CLK350 Cabriolet from Phoenix Motor Company, Mrs. Bob 
> noticed the windows doing their thing when we opened and closed the doors. 
> She wondered aloud and I proceeded to explain it , ala Dan, and the young 
> salesdude listened intently. 
> Later, he got me aside and thanked me for that explanation of why the windows 
> do what they do. He told me that one of the other salesclowns told him the 
> reason the windows did that was so they wouldn’t impinge on the convertible 
> top as the doors were operated and that was the story he was to tell 
> customers. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2022, at 4:50 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> FYI, on coupes and convertibles you get a window “drop” when the door is 
>> open. Wacky Teutonic engineering designed that because of the surface area 
>> of the window is so large when you close the door it would take a great deal 
>> of force to close it (compress the air it’s moving.)
>> 
>> That way you can close the door with minimal effort. When it closes, the 
>> window is moved up to the closed position, sealing the cabin.
>> 
>> Getting a “new to you” car and sorting everything out is one of the best 
>> parts of getting a new car.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Jul 16, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I spent the afternoon fooling around with the car. Someone had not put the 
>>> center radio stack back in right when I think an AC controller was 
>>> replaced. Actually not a hard job but I had to do it twice because I forgot 
>>> to put the cup holder holder back in before putting the wood in. I found a 
>>> bare wires pair, capped them off, no idea what it went to. I’ll have to 
>>> investigate more. Some of the plastic screw places are busted but it seemed 
>>> to be holding together mostly. Old cars, cheap plastic…
>>> 
>>> Cleaned the leather and trim, it’s mostly in really good shape so not a lot 
>>> of effort there. Driver seat has one tear all the other seats look really 
>>> good. 
>>> 
>>> Got the windows all working. When you open a door the glass on that side 
>>> drops down then goes back up when you close the door. Driver side was not 
>>> going back up. Did a reset on them all and that cured it. 
>>> 
>>> There are some other electrical annoyances but just annoyances.  The IC is 
>>> still telling me the ABC is unhappy but it seems to be working fine so that 
>>> is a later effort too. It is holding positions, has not slammed and seems 
>>> to do what it’s supposed to do. 
>>> 
>>> Trunk release button was working the other day now it’s not. Unclear why. 
>>> With the boot lid up the red light on the switch comes on so it must be 
>>> getting power. Maybe the release solenoid isn’t working now but the wires 
>>> were connected. PITA to use the blade key and the fob doesn’t lock/unlock. 
>>> I think I had that working before when I looked at it first time and I did 
>>> put new batteries in it, maybe I should do that again. The light on the fob 
>>> blinks so must be something in the car if it’s actually powered enough. 
>>> 
>>> Then I got out a double action polisher I got a couple months ago. Got pads 
>>> and 3-stage polishing kit for it. Started on the bonnet. Now the car has 
>>> hail dimples so it’s not going to look new but I figured I‘d see how it 
>>> works to get the paint buffed up. Did all 3 compounds on 3 different pads 
>>> which I think I got right. Anyway, a final hand buff with wax and the paint 
>>> looks pretty good. The black has a lot deeper look to it. I went to U Tube 
>>> U so never done it before but it looks pretty good for a 20yo car. I’ll 
>>> have to do the rest of the car soon. 
>>> 
>>> I’m liking this car!  104kmi on a 20yo car, not too shabby even with the 
>>> hail damage. I’ll see if I can get to the DMV this week and get the title 
>>> transferred and a plate and put it in the rotation. Do an oil change with 
>>> the $2 sucker, probably do the trans fluid soon too. 722.6 so that’s fairly 
>>> easy. 
>>> 
>>> Fun times!  It’s a very cool car. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing the CL, etc.

2022-07-16 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
When I bought my CLK350 Cabriolet from Phoenix Motor Company, Mrs. Bob noticed 
the windows doing their thing when we opened and closed the doors. She wondered 
aloud and I proceeded to explain it , ala Dan, and the young salesdude listened 
intently. 
Later, he got me aside and thanked me for that explanation of why the windows 
do what they do. He told me that one of the other salesclowns told him the 
reason the windows did that was so they wouldn’t impinge on the convertible top 
as the doors were operated and that was the story he was to tell customers. 

AZBob

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 16, 2022, at 4:50 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> FYI, on coupes and convertibles you get a window “drop” when the door is 
> open. Wacky Teutonic engineering designed that because of the surface area of 
> the window is so large when you close the door it would take a great deal of 
> force to close it (compress the air it’s moving.)
> 
> That way you can close the door with minimal effort. When it closes, the 
> window is moved up to the closed position, sealing the cabin.
> 
> Getting a “new to you” car and sorting everything out is one of the best 
> parts of getting a new car.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I spent the afternoon fooling around with the car. Someone had not put the 
>> center radio stack back in right when I think an AC controller was replaced. 
>> Actually not a hard job but I had to do it twice because I forgot to put the 
>> cup holder holder back in before putting the wood in. I found a bare wires 
>> pair, capped them off, no idea what it went to. I’ll have to investigate 
>> more. Some of the plastic screw places are busted but it seemed to be 
>> holding together mostly. Old cars, cheap plastic…
>> 
>> Cleaned the leather and trim, it’s mostly in really good shape so not a lot 
>> of effort there. Driver seat has one tear all the other seats look really 
>> good. 
>> 
>> Got the windows all working. When you open a door the glass on that side 
>> drops down then goes back up when you close the door. Driver side was not 
>> going back up. Did a reset on them all and that cured it. 
>> 
>> There are some other electrical annoyances but just annoyances.  The IC is 
>> still telling me the ABC is unhappy but it seems to be working fine so that 
>> is a later effort too. It is holding positions, has not slammed and seems to 
>> do what it’s supposed to do. 
>> 
>> Trunk release button was working the other day now it’s not. Unclear why. 
>> With the boot lid up the red light on the switch comes on so it must be 
>> getting power. Maybe the release solenoid isn’t working now but the wires 
>> were connected. PITA to use the blade key and the fob doesn’t lock/unlock. I 
>> think I had that working before when I looked at it first time and I did put 
>> new batteries in it, maybe I should do that again. The light on the fob 
>> blinks so must be something in the car if it’s actually powered enough. 
>> 
>> Then I got out a double action polisher I got a couple months ago. Got pads 
>> and 3-stage polishing kit for it. Started on the bonnet. Now the car has 
>> hail dimples so it’s not going to look new but I figured I‘d see how it 
>> works to get the paint buffed up. Did all 3 compounds on 3 different pads 
>> which I think I got right. Anyway, a final hand buff with wax and the paint 
>> looks pretty good. The black has a lot deeper look to it. I went to U Tube U 
>> so never done it before but it looks pretty good for a 20yo car. I’ll have 
>> to do the rest of the car soon. 
>> 
>> I’m liking this car!  104kmi on a 20yo car, not too shabby even with the 
>> hail damage. I’ll see if I can get to the DMV this week and get the title 
>> transferred and a plate and put it in the rotation. Do an oil change with 
>> the $2 sucker, probably do the trans fluid soon too. 722.6 so that’s fairly 
>> easy. 
>> 
>> Fun times!  It’s a very cool car. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> ___
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Polishing the CL, etc.

2022-07-16 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
FYI, on coupes and convertibles you get a window “drop” when the door is open. 
Wacky Teutonic engineering designed that because of the surface area of the 
window is so large when you close the door it would take a great deal of force 
to close it (compress the air it’s moving.)

That way you can close the door with minimal effort. When it closes, the window 
is moved up to the closed position, sealing the cabin.

Getting a “new to you” car and sorting everything out is one of the best parts 
of getting a new car.

-D

> On Jul 16, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I spent the afternoon fooling around with the car. Someone had not put the 
> center radio stack back in right when I think an AC controller was replaced. 
> Actually not a hard job but I had to do it twice because I forgot to put the 
> cup holder holder back in before putting the wood in. I found a bare wires 
> pair, capped them off, no idea what it went to. I’ll have to investigate 
> more. Some of the plastic screw places are busted but it seemed to be holding 
> together mostly. Old cars, cheap plastic…
> 
> Cleaned the leather and trim, it’s mostly in really good shape so not a lot 
> of effort there. Driver seat has one tear all the other seats look really 
> good. 
> 
> Got the windows all working. When you open a door the glass on that side 
> drops down then goes back up when you close the door. Driver side was not 
> going back up. Did a reset on them all and that cured it. 
> 
> There are some other electrical annoyances but just annoyances.  The IC is 
> still telling me the ABC is unhappy but it seems to be working fine so that 
> is a later effort too. It is holding positions, has not slammed and seems to 
> do what it’s supposed to do. 
> 
> Trunk release button was working the other day now it’s not. Unclear why. 
> With the boot lid up the red light on the switch comes on so it must be 
> getting power. Maybe the release solenoid isn’t working now but the wires 
> were connected. PITA to use the blade key and the fob doesn’t lock/unlock. I 
> think I had that working before when I looked at it first time and I did put 
> new batteries in it, maybe I should do that again. The light on the fob 
> blinks so must be something in the car if it’s actually powered enough. 
> 
> Then I got out a double action polisher I got a couple months ago. Got pads 
> and 3-stage polishing kit for it. Started on the bonnet. Now the car has hail 
> dimples so it’s not going to look new but I figured I‘d see how it works to 
> get the paint buffed up. Did all 3 compounds on 3 different pads which I 
> think I got right. Anyway, a final hand buff with wax and the paint looks 
> pretty good. The black has a lot deeper look to it. I went to U Tube U so 
> never done it before but it looks pretty good for a 20yo car. I’ll have to do 
> the rest of the car soon. 
> 
> I’m liking this car!  104kmi on a 20yo car, not too shabby even with the hail 
> damage. I’ll see if I can get to the DMV this week and get the title 
> transferred and a plate and put it in the rotation. Do an oil change with the 
> $2 sucker, probably do the trans fluid soon too. 722.6 so that’s fairly easy. 
> 
> Fun times!  It’s a very cool car. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
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[MBZ] Polishing the CL, etc.

2022-07-16 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I spent the afternoon fooling around with the car. Someone had not put the 
center radio stack back in right when I think an AC controller was replaced. 
Actually not a hard job but I had to do it twice because I forgot to put the 
cup holder holder back in before putting the wood in. I found a bare wires 
pair, capped them off, no idea what it went to. I’ll have to investigate more. 
Some of the plastic screw places are busted but it seemed to be holding 
together mostly. Old cars, cheap plastic…

Cleaned the leather and trim, it’s mostly in really good shape so not a lot of 
effort there. Driver seat has one tear all the other seats look really good. 

Got the windows all working. When you open a door the glass on that side drops 
down then goes back up when you close the door. Driver side was not going back 
up. Did a reset on them all and that cured it. 

There are some other electrical annoyances but just annoyances.  The IC is 
still telling me the ABC is unhappy but it seems to be working fine so that is 
a later effort too. It is holding positions, has not slammed and seems to do 
what it’s supposed to do. 

Trunk release button was working the other day now it’s not. Unclear why. With 
the boot lid up the red light on the switch comes on so it must be getting 
power. Maybe the release solenoid isn’t working now but the wires were 
connected. PITA to use the blade key and the fob doesn’t lock/unlock. I think I 
had that working before when I looked at it first time and I did put new 
batteries in it, maybe I should do that again. The light on the fob blinks so 
must be something in the car if it’s actually powered enough. 

Then I got out a double action polisher I got a couple months ago. Got pads and 
3-stage polishing kit for it. Started on the bonnet. Now the car has hail 
dimples so it’s not going to look new but I figured I‘d see how it works to get 
the paint buffed up. Did all 3 compounds on 3 different pads which I think I 
got right. Anyway, a final hand buff with wax and the paint looks pretty good. 
The black has a lot deeper look to it. I went to U Tube U so never done it 
before but it looks pretty good for a 20yo car. I’ll have to do the rest of the 
car soon. 

I’m liking this car!  104kmi on a 20yo car, not too shabby even with the hail 
damage. I’ll see if I can get to the DMV this week and get the title 
transferred and a plate and put it in the rotation. Do an oil change with the 
$2 sucker, probably do the trans fluid soon too. 722.6 so that’s fairly easy. 

Fun times!  It’s a very cool car. 

--FT
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