Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's
Good point! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's Larry - the beauty is that it's SaaS - all on the web. You do the setup work there, we can all contribute, and everyone can view the results. On 9/28/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Don - It does look promising - I've struggled with MS Access for years - even with several training sessions I can barely make it do what I to do - I'll download Zoho and take a look -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1036 - Release Date: 9/28/2007 3:40 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's
Thanks Don - It does look promising - I've struggled with MS Access for years - even with several training sessions I can barely make it do what I to do - I'll download Zoho and take a look -- Thx agn --- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's I just saw this in a trade mag email this afternoon, and thought of your proposed project - it might be just the ticket --- Zoho Creator http://creator.zoho.com/index.jsp?serviceurl=%2Fhome.do There is an example application embedded in the article at: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9038638pageNumber=3#zohocreator or http://tinyurl.com/2m4axr Anyone who has any suggestions please send them in - I'll be formatting things so everyone can use them. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.32/1032 - Release Date: 9/26/2007 8:20 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's
Larry - the beauty is that it's SaaS - all on the web. You do the setup work there, we can all contribute, and everyone can view the results. On 9/28/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Don - It does look promising - I've struggled with MS Access for years - even with several training sessions I can barely make it do what I to do - I'll download Zoho and take a look -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's
Thanks to all who responded - I was in the hospital for a overnight stay following an emergency appendictomy - it;s amazing ow they do Laproscopic Surgery now - 3 *Very* small holes and nothing more - So, as I'll start gathering my reference tidbits together so yapll can review them and let me know where I;ve misinterpreted things. This will be a long term project that will like;y never end. Don;t know if I;ll ever consider having any published but at the very least will post for all to see on the net. The net has changed book writing/publishing forever, Thx again - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:31 PM Subject: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's Howdy - We so often seem to go over the same territory over and over again - especially when someone is considering buy a used MB of some type. Common engine problems, problem ACC problems, I'd like to create a database that would show the various vehicles and engines and list their shortfalls - kind of a buyers guide - problem areas - things to watch for - What do ya;ll think? Or perhaps its been tried? Or not worth the effort? Too complicated?? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1023 - Release Date: 9/22/2007 1:27 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's
Wow, scarry health concerns on the list lately. Quick recovery to you. I agree that your ideas is a good one. I always hesitate to ask questions, as I know most of you have heard them several times before. This is why I am glad that an archives has been started. Brian On 9/27/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all who responded - I was in the hospital for a overnight stay following an emergency appendictomy - it;s amazing ow they do Laproscopic Surgery now - 3 *Very* small holes and nothing more - So, as I'll start gathering my reference tidbits together so yapll can review them and let me know where I;ve misinterpreted things. This will be a long term project that will like;y never end. Don;t know if I;ll ever consider having any published but at the very least will post for all to see on the net. The net has changed book writing/publishing forever, Thx again - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:31 PM Subject: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's Howdy - We so often seem to go over the same territory over and over again - especially when someone is considering buy a used MB of some type. Common engine problems, problem ACC problems, I'd like to create a database that would show the various vehicles and engines and list their shortfalls - kind of a buyers guide - problem areas - things to watch for - What do ya;ll think? Or perhaps its been tried? Or not worth the effort? Too complicated?? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1023 - Release Date: 9/22/2007 1:27 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's
When I first got the used Mercedes bug, I picked up Frank Barrett's Mercedes Buyer's Guide which has some good used info, although his opinions are pretty idiosyncratic. I don't know if he has changed his tune in later editions of the book, but the version I have (just barely new enough to cover the 140 chassis) gives short shrift to diesels, and especially warns against the trap-oxidizer-equipped '86s and '87s. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's
Alex Chamberlain wrote: gives short shrift to diesels, and especially warns against the trap-oxidizer-equipped '86s and '87s. These days people want a car with a trap, so they get a free exhaust system. The problem is that if you have a cracked head, that's not a warranty item. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks for that info - maybe I'll check out his book and see what it has. Anyone who has any suggestions please send them in - I'll be formatting things so everyone can use them. Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's When I first got the used Mercedes bug, I picked up Frank Barrett's Mercedes Buyer's Guide which has some good used info, although his opinions are pretty idiosyncratic. I don't know if he has changed his tune in later editions of the book, but the version I have (just barely new enough to cover the 140 chassis) gives short shrift to diesels, and especially warns against the trap-oxidizer-equipped '86s and '87s. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.32/1032 - Release Date: 9/26/2007 8:20 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's
I just saw this in a trade mag email this afternoon, and thought of your proposed project - it might be just the ticket --- Zoho Creator http://creator.zoho.com/index.jsp?serviceurl=%2Fhome.do There is an example application embedded in the article at: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9038638pageNumber=3#zohocreator or http://tinyurl.com/2m4axr Anyone who has any suggestions please send them in - I'll be formatting things so everyone can use them. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Reference Table for MB's
Howdy - We so often seem to go over the same territory over and over again - especially when someone is considering buy a used MB of some type. Common engine problems, problem ACC problems, I'd like to create a database that would show the various vehicles and engines and list their shortfalls - kind of a buyers guide - problem areas - things to watch for - What do ya;ll think? Or perhaps its been tried? Or not worth the effort? Too complicated?? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's
I think its a good idea. The guy that bought my SDL said he would have liked to have a later model but feared those possible shortfalls. Of course I told him he now had the best car Mercedes ever put out. Harry On 9/23/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy - We so often seem to go over the same territory over and over again - especially when someone is considering buy a used MB of some type. Common engine problems, problem ACC problems, I'd like to create a database that would show the various vehicles and engines and list their shortfalls - kind of a buyers guide - problem areas - things to watch for - What do ya;ll think? Or perhaps its been tried? Or not worth the effort? Too complicated?? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'd be happy to see such. I frequently get interested in a model adn then hear that I should look for one a year or two later because of some design change. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles looking for a reasonable 1996 or later S500 -Original Message- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 23, 2007 12:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's Howdy - We so often seem to go over the same territory over and over again - especially when someone is considering buy a used MB of some type. Common engine problems, problem ACC problems, I'd like to create a database that would show the various vehicles and engines and list their shortfalls - kind of a buyers guide - problem areas - things to watch for - What do ya;ll think? Or perhaps its been tried? Or not worth the effort? Too complicated?? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Larry I think it would be a great idea and a great resource. I would contribute what I know. Trick would be to see who agrees on what-might make an interesting month of list posts. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D-4 speed-arriving soon. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's Howdy - We so often seem to go over the same territory over and over again - especially when someone is considering buy a used MB of some type. Common engine problems, problem ACC problems, I'd like to create a database that would show the various vehicles and engines and list their shortfalls - kind of a buyers guide - problem areas - things to watch for - What do ya;ll think? Or perhaps its been tried? Or not worth the effort? Too complicated?? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's
There are buyers guides out there for Benzes but they are scattered all over the place. A good starting point is this site http://www.carsurvey.org/manufacturer_Mercedes-Benz.html , although some of the reviews should be taken with a grain of salt. But it gives a pretty good idea. For instance have a look at what people are saying about the A class, the general consensus is nice idea but badly executed. Also it is generally accepted that the 124 is the best MB ever, now if they had the multi link rear suspension in the 126.. Talking about 124's, I am thinking of trading the 123 against a 89 300TE. As usual the dealer wants a bit too much money and the car has more K's than I like but the 300TE is pretty rare compared to the sedans and as such they attract a premium. However the one I am looking at has all the service history and is well optioned, sunroof, ABS, 7 seats, pwr windows, cruise but no airbags or eleccy seats but who needs that. *http://tinyurl.com/3dptyn* Are there any real problems with this model? My main concern is that it is fitted with a tow bar, which might have been used once or twice or might have been used all the time to pull a horse float. Harry Watkins wrote: I think its a good idea. The guy that bought my SDL said he would have liked to have a later model but feared those possible shortfalls. Of course I told him he now had the best car Mercedes ever put out. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Reference Table for MB's
Larry, I think this is a good idea and would probably be quite useful to folks on the list. When I was in The Finger Lakes Region MBCA, before I-net popularity and before I knew better, I suggested an Excel spreadsheet incorporating members, member's cars, member's fixit expertise, and good/bad experiences with repair establishments but they never even responded. Good luck. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Glenn Brown wrote: I suggested an Excel spreadsheet incorporating members, member's cars, member's fixit expertise, and good/bad experiences with repair establishments but they never even responded. Good luck. What do you think of this implementation of your concept? http://vsaab.com/html/angels.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hendrik wrote: My main concern is that it is fitted with a tow bar, I wouldn't care, unless the transmission was about to fail. Is it original? Is the fluid burnt? Can you count to five before it engages reverse? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I haven't had a chance yet to give it a good test drive but was able to shift between the gears while stationary. It seemed normal. It's just that I am a great believer in always trying to buy a car without a tow bar but beggars can't be choosers and it is not like there are half a dozen to choose from. Mitch Haley wrote: Hendrik wrote: My main concern is that it is fitted with a tow bar, I wouldn't care, unless the transmission was about to fail. Is it original? Is the fluid burnt? Can you count to five before it engages reverse? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
