Re: [MBZ] Replacing fuel injectors on '77 240D

2015-04-27 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Darren wrote:
 ...if anyone in Chicago is willing to help me with the work, or know roughly 
 what this work should cost from a shop, I'd really appreciate it.


 - I'm far west suburbs.
You should make sure that it is the hose first.  That is low cost and
easy to accomplish.  Then watch and see if the injectors are the
problem.  I think not, but... your '77 240D might need new injectors?
Injectors are a different animal but the hoses are simple.  Buy dealer
hose - not much, perhaps $20 for a meter? - essentially cheap.

And then I can watch you roast coffee at BowTruss... maybe...  At
least I can purchase some from you since I have not yet.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Replacing fuel injectors on '77 240d

2015-04-27 Thread clay via Mercedes
Somebody on list a few (before current okie support of list) years ago, did my 
injectors.  I forget who it was, but man did he do a bang up job.  Gump ran 
like a new car with those cleaned injectors.

clay

On Apr 26, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

 You generally don't replace injectors, you have somebody rebuild them. Max 
 and I have both used Mark Blevins in SC. His work is good and reasonably 
 inexpensive. The actual doing of removal and replacement is super easy. The 
 hardest part is having a big enough socket. I think I still have Fred's... 
 Figure maybe 15mins to remove and half an hour to install with new injector 
 return lines. Mark's turn around is quick, I shipped mine out just before a 
 week long trip and they were back before I was.
 
 I can't remember what nozzles I used but I got them from ID parts and they 
 were a brand Mark approved of. They are slightly larger than stock and might 
 give a slight improvement in power. They'd be appropriate for your car too...
 
 Curt
 
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[MBZ] Replacing fuel injectors on '77 240d

2015-04-26 Thread Darren Marshall via Mercedes
Hi all, been a while since I posted -- hope you guys are doing well. I've 
finally managed to get my 240d ready for the road after a long bonded-title 
process. I've noticed my injectors have been leaking, and I suspect both 
clogged nozzles and bad hoses.

I've never done any work myself on injectors,  and am wondering if anyone has 
any experience with Monarch nozzles? Additionally, if anyone in Chicago is 
willing to help me with the work, or know roughly what this work should cost 
from a shop, I'd really appreciate it. 


D


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Re: [MBZ] Replacing fuel injectors on '77 240d

2015-04-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You generally don't replace injectors, you have somebody rebuild them. Max and 
I have both used Mark Blevins in SC. His work is good and reasonably 
inexpensive. The actual doing of removal and replacement is super easy. The 
hardest part is having a big enough socket. I think I still have Fred's... 
Figure maybe 15mins to remove and half an hour to install with new injector 
return lines. Mark's turn around is quick, I shipped mine out just before a 
week long trip and they were back before I was.

I can't remember what nozzles I used but I got them from ID parts and they were 
a brand Mark approved of. They are slightly larger than stock and might give a 
slight improvement in power. They'd be appropriate for your car too...

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Replacing fuel injectors on '77 240d

2015-04-26 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
You generally don't replace injectors, you have somebody rebuild 
them. Max and I have both used Mark Blevins in SC. His work is good 
and reasonably inexpensive. The actual doing of removal and 
replacement is super easy. The hardest part is having a big enough 
socket. I think I still have Fred's... Figure maybe 15mins to remove 
and half an hour to install with new injector return lines. Mark's 
turn around is quick, I shipped mine out just before a week long 
trip and they were back before I was.


I can't remember what nozzles I used but I got them from ID parts 
and they were a brand Mark approved of. They are slightly larger 
than stock and might give a slight improvement in power. They'd be 
appropriate for your car too...


Curt



If you have leaking outside the injectors, all you need is one meter 
of return line hose.  It just presses over nipples on the nozzle 
holders.  A needle nose pliers is a good tool to remove the ends from 
the nozzle holder.


You can buy that at a stealer or you can go to an industrial supply 
house and buy  1/8 i.d. viton hose, which will last longer.


If the engine is running poorly, then pull the nozzle holders and 
have the nozzles tested.
To take out the nozzle holder, you need  a 27mm or an 1 1/6 deep 
socket with the splines broached deep also.  Sears crapsman used to 
be good sockets.


Each time you remove the nozzle holder, you need to replace the 
nozzle seal in the prechamber in the head.  It is a tapered steel 
seal.  You need a machinist's scribe or somthing similar to get the 
seals out.  In a pinch, I have used a long handled allen wrench.


Seals can be picked up at a Bosch injection shop, the stealer or 
ordered online.


Removing the nozzles, and replacing them needs to be done in cleaner 
than surgical conditions.  Compressed air is a necessity.  any speck 
of dust that gets into the nozzle can ruin the nozzle.


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[MBZ] Replacing fuel injectors on '77 240D

2015-04-26 Thread Darren Marshall via Mercedes
Hi all, been a while since I posted -- hope you guys are doing well. I've 
finally managed to get my 240d ready for the road after a long bonded-title 
process. 

She runs well, but I've noticed my injectors have been leaking, and I suspect 
both clogged nozzles and bad hoses. I've never done any work myself on fuel 
injectors, and am wondering if anyone has any experience with the Monarch 
nozzles? Mercedes Source pushes. Additionally, if anyone in Chicago is willing 
to help me with the work, or know roughly what this work should cost from a 
shop, I'd really appreciate it. 

Darren
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Re: [MBZ] Replacing fuel injectors on '77 240D

2015-04-26 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Make sure it's not weeping return lines that are making the injectors appear to 
be leaking.

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 On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Darren Marshall via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Hi all, been a while since I posted -- hope you guys are doing well. I've 
 finally managed to get my 240d ready for the road after a long bonded-title 
 process. 
 
 She runs well, but I've noticed my injectors have been leaking, and I suspect 
 both clogged nozzles and bad hoses. I've never done any work myself on fuel 
 injectors, and am wondering if anyone has any experience with the Monarch 
 nozzles? Mercedes Source pushes. Additionally, if anyone in Chicago is 
 willing to help me with the work, or know roughly what this work should cost 
 from a shop, I'd really appreciate it. 
 
 Darren
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