Re: [MBZ] Save lives or asphalt.
> I've never found studded snow tires to be a big advantage over regular snows > although I'll admit I've not got a lot of time on them. > Snow tires are much better than all-seasons, good all-season tires are better > than regular onion skins... 99% of the time, studs are no different, or slightly worse. For some of us, though, that live on very icy hills, the studs make a _huge_ difference on the luge days. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Save lives or asphalt.
Its easy enough to tell if somebody has studded tires when somebody drives by. "Is it hailing?" But yeah, are they going to station police on every street listening for studded tires? Will there be "stud runners" (clever double entendre there no?) bringing tires into the state? Somebody hasn't thought this through. -Curt On Thursday, February 7, 2019, 9:26:04 PM EST, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: So, how does this work if I live there and go out of state and buy a set of snow tires with studs, on my own rims, throw them in the trunk, then put them on when there is ice? For the next 20 years? Is there going to be "Stud police" to check everyones tires? Sometimes the practical application of a law overwhelms me any thoughts? On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 6:36 PM Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: > I have a lot to say about this but I might get moderated! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 7, 2019, at 6:18 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > https://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/2019/02/washington-bill-would-ban-studded-tires-in-2025-charge-fees-on-new-purchases.html > > > > The Puget sound area is under winter weather assault. Iced up streets > and nobody knows how to drive in snow or ice. Save the roads, kill the > drivers. It is not as if Seattle really bothers to keep up the urban > streets, which are chuck hole pocked year round, with any paving done by > the lowest bidder and wears out within four years. > > > > On top of it all, the electric cars are not able to charge up enough > over night to keep the range required for anything more than a hop to the > corner Starbucks. > > > > > > > > > > clay > > > > > > 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green > > 1082 SD - Allen > > 1986 SDL - Polei > > > > retired models- > > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap > > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery > > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran > > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV > > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Save lives or asphalt.
I've never found studded snow tires to be a big advantage over regular snows although I'll admit I've not got a lot of time on them. Snow tires are much better than all-seasons, good all-season tires are better than regular onion skins... In the past I've run cheap onion skins in summer and cheap snows all winter. Both VWs have pretty nice all-seasons on them right now and I'm thinking they'll stay that way until next winter, we've been lucky this year with basically no winter... -Curt On Thursday, February 7, 2019, 8:36:18 PM EST, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: I have a lot to say about this but I might get moderated! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 7, 2019, at 6:18 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/2019/02/washington-bill-would-ban-studded-tires-in-2025-charge-fees-on-new-purchases.html > > The Puget sound area is under winter weather assault. Iced up streets and > nobody knows how to drive in snow or ice. Save the roads, kill the drivers. > It is not as if Seattle really bothers to keep up the urban streets, which > are chuck hole pocked year round, with any paving done by the lowest bidder > and wears out within four years. > > On top of it all, the electric cars are not able to charge up enough over > night to keep the range required for anything more than a hop to the corner > Starbucks. > > > > > clay > > > 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green > 1082 SD - Allen > 1986 SDL - Polei > > retired models- > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > > > > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Save lives or asphalt.
> Is there going to be "Stud police" to check everyones tires? Since studded tires are clearly audible to anybody who is listening, the regular police will probably do. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Save lives or asphalt.
So, how does this work if I live there and go out of state and buy a set of snow tires with studs, on my own rims, throw them in the trunk, then put them on when there is ice? For the next 20 years? Is there going to be "Stud police" to check everyones tires? Sometimes the practical application of a law overwhelms me any thoughts? On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 6:36 PM Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: > I have a lot to say about this but I might get moderated! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 7, 2019, at 6:18 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > https://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/2019/02/washington-bill-would-ban-studded-tires-in-2025-charge-fees-on-new-purchases.html > > > > The Puget sound area is under winter weather assault. Iced up streets > and nobody knows how to drive in snow or ice. Save the roads, kill the > drivers. It is not as if Seattle really bothers to keep up the urban > streets, which are chuck hole pocked year round, with any paving done by > the lowest bidder and wears out within four years. > > > > On top of it all, the electric cars are not able to charge up enough > over night to keep the range required for anything more than a hop to the > corner Starbucks. > > > > > > > > > > clay > > > > > > 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green > > 1082 SD - Allen > > 1986 SDL - Polei > > > > retired models- > > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap > > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery > > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran > > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV > > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Save lives or asphalt.
Me too! I've composed and deleted two different responses - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 8:36 PM Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: > I have a lot to say about this but I might get moderated! > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Save lives or asphalt.
I have a lot to say about this but I might get moderated! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 7, 2019, at 6:18 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/2019/02/washington-bill-would-ban-studded-tires-in-2025-charge-fees-on-new-purchases.html > > The Puget sound area is under winter weather assault. Iced up streets and > nobody knows how to drive in snow or ice. Save the roads, kill the drivers. > It is not as if Seattle really bothers to keep up the urban streets, which > are chuck hole pocked year round, with any paving done by the lowest bidder > and wears out within four years. > > On top of it all, the electric cars are not able to charge up enough over > night to keep the range required for anything more than a hop to the corner > Starbucks. > > > > > clay > > > 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green > 1082 SD - Allen > 1986 SDL - Polei > > retired models- > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > > > > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Save lives or asphalt.
https://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/2019/02/washington-bill-would-ban-studded-tires-in-2025-charge-fees-on-new-purchases.html The Puget sound area is under winter weather assault. Iced up streets and nobody knows how to drive in snow or ice. Save the roads, kill the drivers. It is not as if Seattle really bothers to keep up the urban streets, which are chuck hole pocked year round, with any paving done by the lowest bidder and wears out within four years. On top of it all, the electric cars are not able to charge up enough over night to keep the range required for anything more than a hop to the corner Starbucks. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1082 SD - Allen 1986 SDL - Polei retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
