Re: [MBZ] Sdl strange electrical issue

2018-05-27 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> > OK Don  wrote:
> >
> > What's the difference between dielectric grease and axle (or
> > any other kind) grease?

Not sure.  I think dielectric has predictable insulating
characteristics and other grease is just largely insulating.
Also, all the dielectric grease I have seen is non-petroleum so
less trouble on rubber, etc.

> >  How does applying an insulator improve an electrical connection?

> G wrote:

> Dielectric grease seals out moisture and preserves the
> connection. thus retards corrosion.

I think it more that it keep the air - and oxygen - out.  No
oxygen, no oxidation.

> Vaseline also works on battery terminals, but it doesn't have
> the staying power of dielectric grease.

I have been using wheel bearing or axle grease on battery
terminals for decades and it is rare to see any corrosion on any
terminal.  I also use it on pretty much any electrical joint.  I
fill crimp terminals before crimping, slather it on lamp sockets,
coat the pins and sockets on plug connections.  I use it on
anything from 115 VAC light bulb threads to mic level audio (mV).
I have never had any problem with any connections treated with
"plain" grease.  In some high heat situations (say, headlight
sockets) the grease doesn't fair so well long term and will get
dry and crusty.

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Re: [MBZ] Sdl strange electrical issue

2018-05-26 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
grease gun grease works too.  moly, or the red stuff.   WHeel bearing 
grease also works on batt'ry posts.


G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Dielectric grease seals out moisture and preserves the connection. thus
retards corrosion.

It is not an insulator, although, many think that it is.

Vaseline also works on battery terminals, but it doesn't have the staying
power of dielectric grease.





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Re: [MBZ] Sdl strange electrical issue

2018-05-26 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Dielectric grease _is_ an insulator, but it's mechanically so weak that
it's no impediment
to the electrical contacts.  It's a barrier only to oxygen, moisture, and
corrosion.  The point
of this grease _is_ that it's an insulator, and so doesn't affect the
normal operation of
switches and contacts, etc.  If it was conductive, it'd be a real problem
in some situations.

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Re: [MBZ] Sdl strange electrical issue

2018-05-26 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Dielectric grease seals out moisture and preserves the connection. thus
retards corrosion.

It is not an insulator, although, many think that it is.

Vaseline also works on battery terminals, but it doesn't have the staying
power of dielectric grease.

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 9:23 AM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> What's the difference between dielectric grease and axle (or any other
> kind) grease? How does applying an insulator improve an electrical
> connection?
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 10:00 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > wrote:
>
> > CBT Clean, Bright, Tight . is the rule.
> >
> > When you take the cable clamps off, look for black oxide coating on the
> > posts and cables. This material is apparently the greatest insulator
> known.
> > It kills battery connection completely.
> >
> > Once clean, I always coat the posts with dielectric grease. Seems to
> > preserve the surface nicely.
> >
> > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > That sure could be the issue.
> > > --
> > > Max Dillon
> > > Charleston SC
> > > '87 300TD
> > > '95 E300
> > >
> > > On May 25, 2018 6:29:00 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >So I drove the sdl all over tulsa today running errands. Made several
> > > >stops. When I started it back up once it had the problem. Started it
> > > >cured it like normal. When I got ready to leave from the next stop the
> > > >car was completely dead. No power at all. I checked the battery
> > > >connections and while tight, the positive cable did move just a hair.
> > > >So it appeared tight but not completely. Jiggled it a slight amount
> and
> > > >car started. I bet this has been the issue all along.
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] Sdl strange electrical issue

2018-05-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
What's the difference between dielectric grease and axle (or any other
kind) grease? How does applying an insulator improve an electrical
connection?

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 10:00 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

> CBT Clean, Bright, Tight . is the rule.
>
> When you take the cable clamps off, look for black oxide coating on the
> posts and cables. This material is apparently the greatest insulator known.
> It kills battery connection completely.
>
> Once clean, I always coat the posts with dielectric grease. Seems to
> preserve the surface nicely.
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > That sure could be the issue.
> > --
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> >
> > On May 25, 2018 6:29:00 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >So I drove the sdl all over tulsa today running errands. Made several
> > >stops. When I started it back up once it had the problem. Started it
> > >cured it like normal. When I got ready to leave from the next stop the
> > >car was completely dead. No power at all. I checked the battery
> > >connections and while tight, the positive cable did move just a hair.
> > >So it appeared tight but not completely. Jiggled it a slight amount and
> > >car started. I bet this has been the issue all along.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Sdl strange electrical issue

2018-05-25 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
CBT Clean, Bright, Tight . is the rule.

When you take the cable clamps off, look for black oxide coating on the
posts and cables. This material is apparently the greatest insulator known.
It kills battery connection completely.

Once clean, I always coat the posts with dielectric grease. Seems to
preserve the surface nicely.

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That sure could be the issue.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On May 25, 2018 6:29:00 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >So I drove the sdl all over tulsa today running errands. Made several
> >stops. When I started it back up once it had the problem. Started it
> >cured it like normal. When I got ready to leave from the next stop the
> >car was completely dead. No power at all. I checked the battery
> >connections and while tight, the positive cable did move just a hair.
> >So it appeared tight but not completely. Jiggled it a slight amount and
> >car started. I bet this has been the issue all along.
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Sdl strange electrical issue

2018-05-25 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
That sure could be the issue.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 25, 2018 6:29:00 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>So I drove the sdl all over tulsa today running errands. Made several
>stops. When I started it back up once it had the problem. Started it
>cured it like normal. When I got ready to leave from the next stop the
>car was completely dead. No power at all. I checked the battery
>connections and while tight, the positive cable did move just a hair.
>So it appeared tight but not completely. Jiggled it a slight amount and
>car started. I bet this has been the issue all along. 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] Sdl strange electrical issue

2018-05-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So I drove the sdl all over tulsa today running errands. Made several stops. 
When I started it back up once it had the problem. Started it cured it like 
normal. When I got ready to leave from the next stop the car was completely 
dead. No power at all. I checked the battery connections and while tight, the 
positive cable did move just a hair. So it appeared tight but not completely. 
Jiggled it a slight amount and car started. I bet this has been the issue all 
along. 

Sent from my iPhone

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