Re: [MBZ] Suspect Dodge IP's

2008-01-26 Thread Peter T . Arnold
98-02 were flakey, all you need to do is add a gage to moniter the
input pressure.  If the lift pump goes and causes less than 5psi, the
F/I will puke due to running dry.

Dad's truck is great, jump on it!On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:04:29 -0700,
you wrote:

What year Cummins IP's were the crappy ones? 

My dad wants to sell me '05 2500, shortbed SLT, quad cab, hard tonneau
cover, 4X4, 40K miles for $20K.

KBB seems to be in the $26K area..odd for my dad to give me a family
discount.

 

Bob R.

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Re: [MBZ] Suspect Dodge IP's

2008-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond

My '96 Dakota has 210,000 miles. Other than the sticky valve back around 
Christmas its just fine.

I never did follow up, the Lucas stuff worked good but made the trans shift 
weird when it was cold. 
A couple weeks ago it got a fluid flush and filter change (not a backflush, I 
was quite clear on that) and now its nearly 100%.
It still keeps the TC locked up sometimes coming to a stop but strangely only 
when my wife is driving, it almost never does it to me.
She's gotten pretty adept at shifting into neutral coming to a stop if the 
engine starts to die...

So we're good for who knows how long. I'm starting to set aside money for a new 
truck. Ideally another '96 Dakota with 1/2 the mileage and no rust.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:14:25 -0800
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auto tranny problems.  I still
dont trust a dodge tranny

My new '07 has an Aisin 6spd auto that seems to find the right gear and
 has 
the right amount of power and revs to get the job done.  It also has a 
manual shift (autostick) option so it will stay in whatever gear you
 select.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula 

   
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Re: [MBZ] Suspect Dodge IP's

2008-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote:
 
 So we're good for who knows how long. I'm starting to set aside money for a 
 new truck. Ideally another '96 Dakota with 1/2 the mileage and no rust.

Back in 2003 you probably didn't need it, but my Dad sold his '96 3.9 ex-cab
SLT 4x4 for a song with 62k on the clock and minor rust on the door bottoms. 
The 2002 dwarfed it during the year they sat side by side. The only major
differences in the two were the V8 , power seats and electric transfer case
in the '02 and the electric moonroof in the '96. Dad even ordered the 2002
in the same color scheme. It's notably taller than the '96 was, so Dad
had to have step boards put on it just so he could get in. 

BTW, my great uncle had a transfer case failure in his 2003 a couple of
weeks ago. Seems the wiring connector came unplugged at the xfer case, so
when you turned the switch to 4x4 it just blinked at you. Nothing like
watching a short tempered 96 year old try to turn around on a wet grassy
hill and find out his 4x4 won't engage. At least we know his LSD works,
he left a matched pair of trenches everywhere he went. My 190E's LSD
clutches are totally shot (215k) I can't even spin both tires on damp
grass.
 
Mitch.
'79 300SD
'86 2.3-16V

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Re: [MBZ] Suspect Dodge IP's

2008-01-26 Thread Tom Hargrave
More than likely nothing to do with the Lucas stuff - you have something
dying in the tranny  changing the filter helped for a while.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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My '96 Dakota has 210,000 miles. Other than the sticky valve back around
Christmas its just fine.

I never did follow up, the Lucas stuff worked good but made the trans shift
weird when it was cold. 
A couple weeks ago it got a fluid flush and filter change (not a backflush,
I was quite clear on that) and now its nearly 100%.
It still keeps the TC locked up sometimes coming to a stop but strangely
only when my wife is driving, it almost never does it to me.
She's gotten pretty adept at shifting into neutral coming to a stop if the
engine starts to die...

So we're good for who knows how long. I'm starting to set aside money for a
new truck. Ideally another '96 Dakota with 1/2 the mileage and no rust.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:14:25 -0800
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auto tranny problems.  I still
dont trust a dodge tranny

My new '07 has an Aisin 6spd auto that seems to find the right gear and
 has 
the right amount of power and revs to get the job done.  It also has a 
manual shift (autostick) option so it will stay in whatever gear you
 select.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula 

   
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Re: [MBZ] Suspect Dodge IP's

2008-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote:
 
 
 Back in 2003 you probably didn't need it, but my Dad sold his '96 3.9 ex-cab
 SLT 4x4 for a song with 62k on the clock

Rats, that was supposed to go to Curt. Realized my mistake as I clicked the
send button. OhNoSecond indeed.

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Re: [MBZ] Suspect Dodge IP's

2008-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond

I think it should be no big surprise that the trans is on its way out, 210,000 
is alota miles on an American type auto box...
But... Something was stuck and I had nothing but first and reverse. I put in 
the Lucas stuff and drove it around some then let it sit overnight. The next 
day I had first, second and reverse right off. Then as I drove it more it got 
more normal until now its back to fully normal.
In fact its back to better than it was before this whole fiasco, shifts a 
little smoother, engages a little quicker.

Is it on its way out? Aren't we all?

-Curt

Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:25:23 -0600
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More than likely nothing to do with the Lucas stuff - you have
 something
dying in the tranny  changing the filter helped for a while.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

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My '96 Dakota has 210,000 miles. Other than the sticky valve back
 around
Christmas its just fine.

I never did follow up, the Lucas stuff worked good but made the trans
 shift
weird when it was cold. 
A couple weeks ago it got a fluid flush and filter change (not a
 backflush,
I was quite clear on that) and now its nearly 100%.
It still keeps the TC locked up sometimes coming to a stop but
 strangely
only when my wife is driving, it almost never does it to me.
She's gotten pretty adept at shifting into neutral coming to a stop if
 the
engine starts to die...

So we're good for who knows how long. I'm starting to set aside money
 for a
new truck. Ideally another '96 Dakota with 1/2 the mileage and no rust.

-Curt



   
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Re: [MBZ] Suspect Dodge IP's

2008-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond

Dwarfed, do you mean better or just bigger?

Has he had trouble with ball joints? I think mine has has 2 in the 150,000 I've 
owned it.

Is his the 4.7l v8? 1mpg better than mine is listed at, the same as the '96 v6, 
thats not too bad.
The '07 is 1mpg better than that...

Strange to me that it goes from a 5.2l v8 to a 4.7l v8 and we pick up 1mpg. I 
suspect its a big gain in HP though.
Wiki says mine (5.2l) makes 235hp.

*Groan*

Wiki says the 4.7l from 2000-2004 was 230hp...
The 2007 and later makes a mind bending 302hp, the v6 makes 210!


Interestingly it also lists a 114hp (221 lb/ft of torque!) 4cyl diesel that 
unfortunately is noted to have overheating/self destructing problems.

Good read the Dodge Dakota Wiki.

-Curt


-Curt

Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:29:48 -0500
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Curt Raymond wrote:
 
 So we're good for who knows how long. I'm starting to set aside money
 for a new truck. Ideally another '96 Dakota with 1/2 the mileage and
 no rust.

Back in 2003 you probably didn't need it, but my Dad sold his '96 3.9
 ex-cab
SLT 4x4 for a song with 62k on the clock and minor rust on the door
 bottoms. 
The 2002 dwarfed it during the year they sat side by side. The only
 major
differences in the two were the V8 , power seats and electric transfer
 case
in the '02 and the electric moonroof in the '96. Dad even ordered the
 2002
in the same color scheme. It's notably taller than the '96 was, so Dad
had to have step boards put on it just so he could get in. 

BTW, my great uncle had a transfer case failure in his 2003 a couple of
weeks ago. Seems the wiring connector came unplugged at the xfer case,
 so
when you turned the switch to 4x4 it just blinked at you. Nothing like
watching a short tempered 96 year old try to turn around on a wet
 grassy
hill and find out his 4x4 won't engage. At least we know his LSD works,
he left a matched pair of trenches everywhere he went. My 190E's LSD
clutches are totally shot (215k) I can't even spin both tires on damp
grass.
 
Mitch.
'79 300SD
'86 2.3-16V

   
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Re: [MBZ] Suspect Dodge IP's

2008-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Thats a pretty good price.  Those dont have ip problem.  Only thing i 
have heard of, but supposedly cured is auto tranny problems.  I still 
dont trust a dodge tranny

Robert Rentfro wrote:
 What year Cummins IP's were the crappy ones? 
 
 My dad wants to sell me '05 2500, shortbed SLT, quad cab, hard tonneau
 cover, 4X4, 40K miles for $20K.
 
 KBB seems to be in the $26K area..odd for my dad to give me a family
 discount.
 
  
 
 Bob R.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Suspect Dodge IP's

2008-01-25 Thread Jim Cathey
 What year Cummins IP's were the crappy ones?

98.5 through '03 or thereabouts.  Prior (12-valve) and
later common-rail engines just stall if the lift pump dies
or the fuel filter clogs.

About half the Dodge rotary pumps that the local Bosch
place gets are killed due to lift pump/fuel filter issues,
the other are internal electronics failures.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Suspect Dodge IP's

2008-01-25 Thread Kevin Kraly
Have you driven this truck?  They have plenty of power (325hp with 610Lb.Ft. 
of torque.  You have to hitch some serious weight to them to get them to 
even break a sweat.  $20k is 5/9K less than they're going for around here, 
and 40Kmi is just BEARLY broken in!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] Suspect Dodge IP's

2008-01-25 Thread Kevin Kraly
auto tranny problems.  I still
dont trust a dodge tranny

My new '07 has an Aisin 6spd auto that seems to find the right gear and has 
the right amount of power and revs to get the job done.  It also has a 
manual shift (autostick) option so it will stay in whatever gear you select.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula 


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Re: [MBZ] Suspect Dodge IP's

2008-01-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
Right now he has an HVAC issue...the mixing box damper...need repaired.
I thought it was a decent pricehe usually never gives me a break.

Bob R

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Thats a pretty good price.  Those dont have ip problem.  Only thing i 
have heard of, but supposedly cured is auto tranny problems.  I still 
dont trust a dodge tranny

Robert Rentfro wrote:
 What year Cummins IP's were the crappy ones? 
 
 My dad wants to sell me '05 2500, shortbed SLT, quad cab, hard tonneau
 cover, 4X4, 40K miles for $20K.
 
 KBB seems to be in the $26K area..odd for my dad to give me a family
 discount.
 
  
 
 Bob R.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Suspect Dodge IP's

2008-01-25 Thread Kevin
That's essentially the smaller version of the truck I have - mine's a crewcab
dually. That is a pretty good price, that's for sure.

No real problems under the hood, other than the usual cummins propensity to
crack or warp exhaust manifolds (pretty rare, but it happens), and early 05's
had plastic ends on the intercooler that can crack.

To answer your question, though, the 98-03 ones will lose an IP if the lift
pump doesn't provide enough pressure. The newer common rail ones will just
end up on the side of the road needing a new lift pump.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 05:04:29PM -0700, Robert Rentfro wrote:
 What year Cummins IP's were the crappy ones? 
 
 My dad wants to sell me '05 2500, shortbed SLT, quad cab, hard tonneau
 cover, 4X4, 40K miles for $20K.
 
 KBB seems to be in the $26K area..odd for my dad to give me a family
 discount.

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[MBZ] Suspect Dodge IP's

2008-01-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
What year Cummins IP's were the crappy ones? 

My dad wants to sell me '05 2500, shortbed SLT, quad cab, hard tonneau
cover, 4X4, 40K miles for $20K.

KBB seems to be in the $26K area..odd for my dad to give me a family
discount.

 

Bob R.

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