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Gerry wrote: "With two good fishermen in the family who could catch snook off Davis Island bridge nearly any time they wanted to, we lived on fish, potatoes, and a few vegetables that first year in Tampa." I'm offended you would speak so casually about catching members of my family! :) Just kidding. I always forget about the fish called "Snook". It is odd to hear people talking about catching big snook. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gerry listed the following: "Assemblies of God Church Colleges (15): "Evangel University" I am an alum of Evangel and I am from Springfield, Missouri where Evangel (and the headquarters of the Assemblies of God is located). I went to Church to 80% of the faculty of the University and am friends with just about the entire administration. Craig if you are really interested in working at Evangel, please let me know. I would be glad to help you get your foot in the door. Springfield is also a GREAT place to live. I know you worked at Los Alamos, but what is your specific area of expertise and what subjects would you like to teach? Do you have a doctorate? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tim C writes: > They have decision-making problems administratively: requests tend to show > up at the last minute; no one knows how budget will be allotted, if at all; > adjunct and associate professors don't know whether they will have classes > more than a week or two in advance; getting money for lab repairs and > materials requires many hours of nonsense; things like keys and offices are > not logically allocated. There are lots of punitive programs, but > little/nothing in the way of recognition of excellence. There is an > expectation, at least in the sciences, that substantive research is being > done, but it's impossible to get lab time or equipment from the school. > Very few of the administrators will take responsibility for anything, no > matter how trivial. And so on. > > Same kinds of issues you'd see in a small company, except with the > administrative overhead of something in the Fortune 100. Not sure how the > military compares. I recognize a lot (actually almost all) of those problems where I work, and it's a major state university. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Aug 7, 2012 8:36 PM, "Craig" wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:34:44 -0400 Tim C wrote: > > > (Oh, and they all hate working there. Students are great and fairly > > motivated but it seems to be a horrible place to work.) > > Any idea why? They have decision-making problems administratively: requests tend to show up at the last minute; no one knows how budget will be allotted, if at all; adjunct and associate professors don't know whether they will have classes more than a week or two in advance; getting money for lab repairs and materials requires many hours of nonsense; things like keys and offices are not logically allocated. There are lots of punitive programs, but little/nothing in the way of recognition of excellence. There is an expectation, at least in the sciences, that substantive research is being done, but it's impossible to get lab time or equipment from the school. Very few of the administrators will take responsibility for anything, no matter how trivial. And so on. Same kinds of issues you'd see in a small company, except with the administrative overhead of something in the Fortune 100. Not sure how the military compares. On the other hand, several professors have (independently) said that the students are amazing - usually not top tier academically, often holding down a job or two, and many have child care issues and the like, but that a higher-than-common proportion are really serious about college. There are a lot of first-generation attendees whose parents have worked at menial jobs for 20+ years, scrimping on everything so that their kid could have a shot at a skilled* job. College is sold as this amazing possibility that their friends and parents never had, and so there's less of the wasting time and money - even as teenagers they know they don't want to blow their one shot. You still have the crazy party kids but it seems much less common than at the whiter schools where my siblings-in-law went. Anyway that's my take based on what I've been told, so at best second hand. :) All but one of the profs I know from NCCU are still there, so despite day-to-day frustrations I suppose you can survive. Best, Tim * I was invited to attend a career seminar, and someone else talked about being a lab tech and that the jobs "started at $38,000 right out of college". The kids' mouths dropped like that was the biggest sum in the world... It was a very humbling experience. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:34:44 -0400 Tim C wrote: > (Oh, and they all hate working there. Students are great and fairly > motivated but it seems to be a horrible place to work.) Any idea why? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Aug 7, 2012 7:16 PM, "Gerry Archer" wrote: > > What would they do if a half-black student who had white skin and looked > like a white person applied? Go to school half-time? > Gerry SWMBO is whiter than me, and just graduated (June) from NC Central. She had merit scholarships throughout and was the Dean's something-or- other at graduation. They are HBCUs, that is historically black colleges and universities; nowadays it is self segregation and tradition that makes proportions different. I know a lot of the professors there, and the proportion of white/black/immigrant/international is roughly the same as what I experienced at NC State 15 years ago. Not so sure about administrators but there couldn't have been a lot of racial screening of profs, at least. (Oh, and they all hate working there. Students are great and fairly motivated but it seems to be a horrible place to work.) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 18:32:12 -0400 "Gerry Archer" wrote: > The same general process might be successful for you by sending off > personalized copies of a standard application you create which answers > every possible question you might be asked in a personal interview. Thank you, Gerry, for all of the information. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There have been white students and profs at FAMU ever since the end of segregation; not surprising since it is a state supported school. Currently there seems to be talk of combining it with FSU, but don't hold your breath. Gerry From: "Dan Penoff" With all the press coverage of the FAMU band death, I was wondering to myself if an Anglo had ever applied to attend FAMU and if they were successful in doing so Dan On 07/08/2012 10:51 AM, WILTON wrote: Randy, are you ready to take 'em on just for the fun of it? Wilton Easy for me to say. I am: a) far away; b) not a litigator; c) not qualified or permitted to practice down south etc. But, I am still surprised that there are not a series of law suits against them just because etc. Maybe there are? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5183 - Release Date: 08/07/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What would they do if a half-black student who had white skin and looked like a white person applied? Go to school half-time? Gerry From: "WILTON" Randy, are you ready to take 'em on just for the fun of it? Wilton That sounds like fun. I am surprised that someone has not tried it. Randy On 03/08/2012 10:46 PM, Fredd wrote: Kaleb, Is that "real world" black or white ? Huntsville Alabama, Alabama A&M University is a black college. They refuse white students and white teachers all the time. You can not only write a book but a whole library with their excuses not to hire or register white people above what they call a fair percentage. Good luck trying to sue them. Fredd Hmm I don't know. I know in the real world you get your ass sued off for something like that "Kaleb C. Striplin" writes: That is a violation of equal opportunity employment guidelines. Maybe not at an evangelical college. I'd think there would be execptions for that sort of thing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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In 1946 we moved to Tampa from Indiana and I immediately needed an after school job. Hundreds of thousands of WW-2 veterans had taken what few jobs there were and there didn't seem to be any for a 16 year old with no references. I set out walking and started asking for a job at every business I came to. After covering Interbay, Palma Ceia, and Hyde Park, I started on Tampas downtown section which had many businesses. One of the last places I asked before heading for Seminole Heights and Ybor City was the Tampa Tribune which hired me as a copy boy; six hours per evening seven days per week, for a salary of $17 per week. With two good fishermen in the family who could catch snook off Davis Island bridge nearly any time they wanted to, we lived on fish, potatoes, and a few vegetables that first year in Tampa. Money was nevertheless still in short supply. The family members took up a collection so I could rent a $10 gown and mortar board and attend graduation at Plant High School. The same general process might be successful for you by sending off personalized copies of a standard application you create which answers every possible question you might be asked in a personal interview. I would point out in the letter that I am sending this application to several hundred church related colleges and that I can't possibly interview at them all, so I am interested in replies only from those who might seriously be interested in employing me based on this application. Here is a list of some church affiliated colleges in the U.S. There are many more in the attached link: United Church of Christ Colleges (20) Elon University Lakeland College Elmhurst College Piedmont College Doane College-Lincoln Grand Island and Master Churches of Christ Colleges (20) Pepperdine University Harding University Abilene Christian University Faulkner University Lipscomb University Undenominational Colleges (20) Azusa Pacific University Biola University Wheaton College Colorado Christian University Dallas Theological Seminary Christian Churches and Churches of Christ Colleges (19) Lincoln Christian College and Seminary Cincinnati Christian University Milligan College Hope International University Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) Colleges (18) Columbia College Texas Christian University Chapman University-University College Chapman University Lynchburg College American Baptist Colleges (16) Eastern University Linfield College University of Sioux Falls Ottawa University-Phoenix Franklin College Assemblies of God Church Colleges (15) Southeastern University Vanguard University of Southern California Southwestern Assemblies of God University Evangel University Northwest University Seventh Day Adventists Colleges (15) Loma Linda University Andrews University Southern Adventist University Florida Hospital College of Health Sciences Walla Walla University Other Colleges (13) Saint John Fisher College Graceland University-Lamoni Manor College Bethany Lutheran College Bethel College North Newton Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod Colleges (13) Concordia University-Wisconsin Concordia University Concordia University Concordia University-Saint Paul Concordia University Texas Protestant Episcopal Colleges (12) Sewanee: The University of the South Saint Augustines College Saint Pauls College Voorhees College Trinity Episcopal School for Ministry Church of the Nazarene Colleges (10) Olivet Nazarene University Point Loma Nazarene University Mount Vernon Nazarene University Trevecca Nazarene University Southern Nazarene University Church of God Colleges (8) The University of Findlay Lee University Anderson University Warner Southern College Mid-America Christian University Multiple Protestant Denomination Colleges (7) Fuller Theological Seminary in California Huston-Tillotson University Le Moyne-Owen College Houston Graduate School of Theology Pacific School of Religion Friends Colleges (7) George Fox University Guilford College Malone College William Penn University Wilmington College Mennonite Church Colleges (6) Eastern Mennonite University Bluffton University Goshen College Hesston College Associated Mennonite Biblical Seminary Wesleyan Colleges (6) Indiana Wesleyan University Southern Wesleyan University Houghton College Oklahoma Wesleyan University Hobe Sound Bible College African Methodist Episcopal Colleges (5) Wilberforce University Edward Waters College Allen University Paul Quinn College Payne Theological Seminary Reformed Church in America Colleges (5) Hope College Central College Northwestern College Western Theological Seminary New Brunswick Theological Seminary Church of Brethren Colleges (5) Elizabethtown College Bridgewater College Manchester College McPherson College Bethany Theological Seminary Reformed Presbyterian Church Colleges (5) Geneva College Erskine College and Seminary Reformed Presbyterian Theological Seminary Christian Methodist Episcopal Colleges (4) Lane College Miles College Texas College I
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The first one I guess, he was up around Durham, my cuz lives in Cary. --R On 8/7/12 3:09 PM, WILTON wrote: NC Central U. in Durham or NC A & T (Agri & Tech) State U. in Greensboro? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Taylor University My cousin's boy (the white one) went to NCA&M or whatever it is called, the HBCU in Durham I think? Somewhere around there. He actually enjoyed his time there, did not feel out of place or "different". --R On 8/7/12 12:25 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: With all the press coverage of the FAMU band death, I was wondering to myself if an Anglo had ever applied to attend FAMU and if they were successful in doing so Dan On Aug 7, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 07/08/2012 10:51 AM, WILTON wrote: Randy, are you ready to take 'em on just for the fun of it? Wilton Easy for me to say. I am: a) far away; b) not a litigator; c) not qualified or permitted to practice down south etc. But, I am still surprised that there are not a series of law suits against them just because etc. Maybe there are? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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NC Central U. in Durham or NC A & T (Agri & Tech) State U. in Greensboro? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Taylor University My cousin's boy (the white one) went to NCA&M or whatever it is called, the HBCU in Durham I think? Somewhere around there. He actually enjoyed his time there, did not feel out of place or "different". --R On 8/7/12 12:25 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: With all the press coverage of the FAMU band death, I was wondering to myself if an Anglo had ever applied to attend FAMU and if they were successful in doing so Dan On Aug 7, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 07/08/2012 10:51 AM, WILTON wrote: Randy, are you ready to take 'em on just for the fun of it? Wilton Easy for me to say. I am: a) far away; b) not a litigator; c) not qualified or permitted to practice down south etc. But, I am still surprised that there are not a series of law suits against them just because etc. Maybe there are? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My cousin's boy (the white one) went to NCA&M or whatever it is called, the HBCU in Durham I think? Somewhere around there. He actually enjoyed his time there, did not feel out of place or "different". --R On 8/7/12 12:25 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: With all the press coverage of the FAMU band death, I was wondering to myself if an Anglo had ever applied to attend FAMU and if they were successful in doing so Dan On Aug 7, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 07/08/2012 10:51 AM, WILTON wrote: Randy, are you ready to take 'em on just for the fun of it? Wilton Easy for me to say. I am: a) far away; b) not a litigator; c) not qualified or permitted to practice down south etc. But, I am still surprised that there are not a series of law suits against them just because etc. Maybe there are? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:53 AM, "Randy Bennell" wrote: > I would guess that most places are wishing they could get their more senior > people to retire so they could bring in some young blood. At substantial cost savings. I would say that tuition would NOT go down though. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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With all the press coverage of the FAMU band death, I was wondering to myself if an Anglo had ever applied to attend FAMU and if they were successful in doing so Dan On Aug 7, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > On 07/08/2012 10:51 AM, WILTON wrote: >> Randy, are you ready to take 'em on just for the fun of it? >> >> Wilton >> > > Easy for me to say. I am: a) far away; b) not a litigator; c) not qualified > or permitted to practice down south etc. > > But, I am still surprised that there are not a series of law suits against > them just because etc. > > Maybe there are? > > Randy > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 07/08/2012 10:51 AM, WILTON wrote: Randy, are you ready to take 'em on just for the fun of it? Wilton Easy for me to say. I am: a) far away; b) not a litigator; c) not qualified or permitted to practice down south etc. But, I am still surprised that there are not a series of law suits against them just because etc. Maybe there are? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Probably a fair amount of truth to this statement. They may have interviewed you to prove they are not discriminating against older applicants. Your best bet may be to look for contract positions and then try to wow them with your performance so they want to keep you around and offer you more contract time. Sadly, you are not likely to get hired on at age 62. I would guess that most places are wishing they could get their more senior people to retire so they could bring in some young blood. Randy On 04/08/2012 12:16 PM, David & Kristin Gilmore wrote: At 06:57 PM 8/2/2012, Craig wrote: I was questioned at length about my faith at both universities. Faculty at both institutions indicated they were satisfied, so I don't think that was a problem. From an earlier post I remember you said you are 62. They won't say so but that counts against you when being considered for a teaching post. They usually want fairly young people as new teachers on the theory that the younger ones will better relate to the students. And be less of a burden to their retirement system. Unless, of course, you come trailing some sort of star quality fancy awards, etc. You probably are not even Black or Hispanic. So sorry. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Some there are who speak of one who threatens he will toss to hell the luckless pots He marred in making. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Randy, are you ready to take 'em on just for the fun of it? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Taylor University That sounds like fun. I am surprised that someone has not tried it. Randy On 03/08/2012 10:46 PM, Fredd wrote: Kaleb, Is that "real world" black or white ? Huntsville Alabama, Alabama A&M University is a black college. They refuse white students and white teachers all the time. You can not only write a book but a whole library with their excuses not to hire or register white people above what they call a fair percentage. Good luck trying to sue them. Fredd Hmm I don't know. I know in the real world you get your ass sued off for something like that Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Allan Streib wrote: "Kaleb C. Striplin" writes: That is a violation of equal opportunity employment guidelines. Maybe not at an evangelical college. I'd think there would be execptions for that sort of thing. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That sounds like fun. I am surprised that someone has not tried it. Randy On 03/08/2012 10:46 PM, Fredd wrote: Kaleb, Is that "real world" black or white ? Huntsville Alabama, Alabama A&M University is a black college. They refuse white students and white teachers all the time. You can not only write a book but a whole library with their excuses not to hire or register white people above what they call a fair percentage. Good luck trying to sue them. Fredd Hmm I don't know. I know in the real world you get your ass sued off for something like that Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Allan Streib wrote: "Kaleb C. Striplin" writes: That is a violation of equal opportunity employment guidelines. Maybe not at an evangelical college. I'd think there would be execptions for that sort of thing. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes and sadly, if they were not satisfied, they were not likely to tell you so. Randy On 03/08/2012 4:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That is a violation of equal opportunity employment guidelines. On 8/2/2012 5:57 PM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 11:27:19 -0500 Randy Bennell wrote: Having read the 2 replies that you posted, I have to wonder if they did not think you "religous" enough. I was questioned at length about my faith at both universities. Faculty at both institutions indicated they were satisfied, so I don't think that was a problem. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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At 06:57 PM 8/2/2012, Craig wrote: I was questioned at length about my faith at both universities. Faculty at both institutions indicated they were satisfied, so I don't think that was a problem. From an earlier post I remember you said you are 62. They won't say so but that counts against you when being considered for a teaching post. They usually want fairly young people as new teachers on the theory that the younger ones will better relate to the students. And be less of a burden to their retirement system.Unless, of course, you come trailing some sort of star quality fancy awards, etc. You probably are not even Black or Hispanic. So sorry. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Some there are who speak of one who threatens he will toss to hell the luckless pots He marred in making. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb, Is that "real world" black or white ? Huntsville Alabama, Alabama A&M University is a black college. They refuse white students and white teachers all the time. You can not only write a book but a whole library with their excuses not to hire or register white people above what they call a fair percentage. Good luck trying to sue them. Fredd Hmm I don't know. I know in the real world you get your ass sued off for something like that Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Allan Streib wrote: "Kaleb C. Striplin" writes: That is a violation of equal opportunity employment guidelines. Maybe not at an evangelical college. I'd think there would be execptions for that sort of thing. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hmm I don't know. I know in the real world you get your ass sued off for something like that Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > "Kaleb C. Striplin" writes: > >> That is a violation of equal opportunity employment guidelines. > > Maybe not at an evangelical college. I'd think there would be > execptions for that sort of thing. > > -- > 1983 300D > 1979 300SD > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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"Kaleb C. Striplin" writes: > That is a violation of equal opportunity employment guidelines. Maybe not at an evangelical college. I'd think there would be execptions for that sort of thing. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That is a violation of equal opportunity employment guidelines. On 8/2/2012 5:57 PM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 11:27:19 -0500 Randy Bennell wrote: Having read the 2 replies that you posted, I have to wonder if they did not think you "religous" enough. I was questioned at length about my faith at both universities. Faculty at both institutions indicated they were satisfied, so I don't think that was a problem. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5173 - Release Date: 08/02/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Whatever. I had been turned into a newt at the time...or was it a Scotsman? Dan who is trying not to be seen On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > Misquote! Its actually "very small rocks" > > I was going to add "and gravy" > > Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 08:52:31 -0400 > From: Dan Penoff > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Taylor University > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 > > As do small pebbles. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 3, 2012, at 4:53 AM, Ed Booher wrote: > >> I don?t think Craig is a big Python fan. Other wise he would know to >> respond that does not wood also float? >> >> EdB > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Misquote! Its actually "very small rocks" I was going to add "and gravy" Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 08:52:31 -0400 From: Dan Penoff To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Taylor University Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 As do small pebbles. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2012, at 4:53 AM, Ed Booher wrote: > I don?t think Craig is a big Python fan. Other wise he would know to > respond that does not wood also float? > > EdB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 08:53:37 + Ed Booher wrote: > I don’t think Craig is a big Python fan. Other wise he would know to > respond that does not wood also float? The reference indeed was obscure to me. Craig > EdB > > Sent from my Windows 8 PC > <http://windows.microsoft.com/consumer-preview> > > *From:* Craig > *Sent:* Friday, August 3, 2012 12:05:25 AM > *To:* mercedes@okiebenz.com > *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] Taylor University > > On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 23:35:54 -0400 Rich Thomas > wrote: > > > Do you weigh more than a duck? > > Yeah, I think so. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 112 kmi '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 08:52:03 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote: > Monty Python reference. Aha! I wondered where the comment came from! Craig > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:25 PM, Craig wrote: > > > On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:04:17 -0400 Rich Thomas > > wrote: > > > >> Did they dunk you in the water to make sure you weren't a witch? Or > >> see if you would float? > > > > Um ... no. > > > > > > Craig > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 112 kmi '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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As do small pebbles. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2012, at 4:53 AM, Ed Booher wrote: > I don’t think Craig is a big Python fan. Other wise he would know to > respond that does not wood also float? > > EdB > > Sent from my Windows 8 PC <http://windows.microsoft.com/consumer-preview> > > *From:* Craig > *Sent:* Friday, August 3, 2012 12:05:25 AM > *To:* mercedes@okiebenz.com > *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] Taylor University > > On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 23:35:54 -0400 Rich Thomas > wrote: > >> Do you weigh more than a duck? > > Yeah, I think so. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Monty Python reference. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:25 PM, Craig wrote: > On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:04:17 -0400 Rich Thomas > wrote: > >> Did they dunk you in the water to make sure you weren't a witch? Or >> see if you would float? > > Um ... no. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I don’t think Craig is a big Python fan. Other wise he would know to respond that does not wood also float? EdB Sent from my Windows 8 PC <http://windows.microsoft.com/consumer-preview> *From:* Craig *Sent:* Friday, August 3, 2012 12:05:25 AM *To:* mercedes@okiebenz.com *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] Taylor University On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 23:35:54 -0400 Rich Thomas wrote: > Do you weigh more than a duck? Yeah, I think so. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 23:35:54 -0400 Rich Thomas wrote: > Do you weigh more than a duck? Yeah, I think so. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Do you weigh more than a duck? --R On 8/2/12 11:25 PM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:04:17 -0400 Rich Thomas wrote: Did they dunk you in the water to make sure you weren't a witch? Or see if you would float? Um ... no. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:04:17 -0400 Rich Thomas wrote: > Did they dunk you in the water to make sure you weren't a witch? Or > see if you would float? Um ... no. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Did they dunk you in the water to make sure you weren't a witch? Or see if you would float? --R On 8/2/12 6:57 PM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 11:27:19 -0500 Randy Bennell wrote: Having read the 2 replies that you posted, I have to wonder if they did not think you "religous" enough. I was questioned at length about my faith at both universities. Faculty at both institutions indicated they were satisfied, so I don't think that was a problem. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 11:27:19 -0500 Randy Bennell wrote: > Having read the 2 replies that you posted, I have to wonder if they did > not think you "religous" enough. I was questioned at length about my faith at both universities. Faculty at both institutions indicated they were satisfied, so I don't think that was a problem. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 10:46:39 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote: > Working in education there is no question about the existence of a > Supreme Being, as we all hear praying on a regular basis. More so > during finals week I think I can understand that! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Having read the 2 replies that you posted, I have to wonder if they did not think you "religous" enough. Randy On 01/08/2012 11:27 PM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:43:09 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote: Keep moving forward and things will fall into place. At least you're getting an audience, and that says something. Thank you, Dan, for the encouragement. Yes, I guess it does say something that people would spend a kilobuck to have me come talk with them. I did not get the job, but I did travel to a part of the country to which I had never been before and got to meet some nice people I never would have met. Be sure to send the Dean a "Thank you" card that has been heavily irradiated with something from the Lab Since I no longer work at the Lab (just kidding!) Oh! :-) Craig ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Working in education there is no question about the existence of a Supreme Being, as we all hear praying on a regular basis. More so during finals week Dan On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Craig wrote: > On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:19:01 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" > wrote: > >> I see the problem here, it sounds like everybody doing the hiring is >> praying about it. Not to offend anybody but I don't do any praying when >> I am hiring people. > > I personally believe asking for divine guidance through prayer is an > appropriate thing for Christians to do. Since that's the kind of > institution to which I have applied, I would expect those there to be > praying about making the correct decision. I know I certainly am. > > Sometimes, I'm not pleased with the decision, but, being the > Augustinian/Calvinist I am and believing in Divine Providence, I am > confident that the process and result has been superintended by Someone > with a much better picture of things than I have. > > Whether you pray or not is a matter between you and your Creator. I can > say, though, that being in a good relationship with Him is better than > the alternative. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:19:01 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > I see the problem here, it sounds like everybody doing the hiring is > praying about it. Not to offend anybody but I don't do any praying when > I am hiring people. I personally believe asking for divine guidance through prayer is an appropriate thing for Christians to do. Since that's the kind of institution to which I have applied, I would expect those there to be praying about making the correct decision. I know I certainly am. Sometimes, I'm not pleased with the decision, but, being the Augustinian/Calvinist I am and believing in Divine Providence, I am confident that the process and result has been superintended by Someone with a much better picture of things than I have. Whether you pray or not is a matter between you and your Creator. I can say, though, that being in a good relationship with Him is better than the alternative. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:43:09 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote: > Keep moving forward and things will fall into place. At least you're > getting an audience, and that says something. Thank you, Dan, for the encouragement. Yes, I guess it does say something that people would spend a kilobuck to have me come talk with them. I did not get the job, but I did travel to a part of the country to which I had never been before and got to meet some nice people I never would have met. > Be sure to send the Dean a "Thank you" card that has been heavily > irradiated with something from the Lab Since I no longer work at the Lab > (just kidding!) Oh! :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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How 'bout the service academies? Colo. Springs seemed not bad at all when I was TDY there in '78. Annapolis seemed not bad either when I was there 'bout 30 years ago, but may too crowded and too close to DC for "comfort." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Taylor University On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 18:46:25 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: Geez. Btw I am sure you said but didn't you interview in Arkansas or somewhere close by recemtly I interviewed at John Brown University at Siloam Springs, AR, on 25 January. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I see the problem here, it sounds like everybody doing the hiring is praying about it. Not to offend anybody but I don't do any praying when I am hiring people. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Craig wrote: > On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:53:46 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" > wrote: > >> Oh that's right, what happened >> With that? > > It fell through on 4 April when the Dean there sent me the email, > >I am sorry that it has taken so long to make decisions relating >to your application to our position of the Electrical/Renewable >Energy faculty position. After prayer and careful consideration, >we have decided to look elsewhere in filling this position. Thank >you for the time we had together and the opportunity to get to >know you. May God bless you like and continued career activities. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:53:46 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Oh that's right, what happened > With that? It fell through on 4 April when the Dean there sent me the email, I am sorry that it has taken so long to make decisions relating to your application to our position of the Electrical/Renewable Energy faculty position. After prayer and careful consideration, we have decided to look elsewhere in filling this position. Thank you for the time we had together and the opportunity to get to know you. May God bless you like and continued career activities. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Oh that's right, what happened With that? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Craig wrote: > On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 18:46:25 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" > wrote: > >> Geez. Btw I am sure you said but didn't you interview in Arkansas or >> somewhere close by recemtly > > I interviewed at John Brown University at Siloam Springs, AR, > on 25 January. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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As my maternal grandmother always said, 'Everything works out for the best." While I don't necessarily agree with her, I have yet to prove her wrong. Keep moving forward and things will fall into place. At least you're getting an audience, and that says something. Be sure to send the Dean a "Thank you" card that has been heavily irradiated with something from the Lab (just kidding!) Dan On Aug 1, 2012, at 8:25 PM, WILTON wrote: > 'Hope it leads to something better elsewhere for you. > > Wilton > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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'Hope it leads to something better elsewhere for you. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: "mercedes" Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:29 PM Subject: [MBZ] Taylor University I flew from ABQ to IND on Thursday, 19 July, interviewed at Taylor University on Friday, 20 July, and flew back to ABQ on 21 July. The interview went well and the faculty seemed interested in me. Yesterday, I received the following email from the Dean of Natural Sciences: -- Craig, We greatly appreciated your visit and the spirit you demonstrated while you were here. We believe that you could fit at Taylor in many ways. However, we have made a difficult decision that none of the candidates we interviewed is a close enough fit to what we need on a long-term basis to extend an offer. For a variety of reasons we need a person who has experience to help us drive our accreditation process and curriculum modifications in the future. Thank you for your interest and the time you spent with us. I pray that the Lord will lead you to the position He knows will be best for you. -- So, I won't be moving to Indiana. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 18:46:25 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Geez. Btw I am sure you said but didn't you interview in Arkansas or > somewhere close by recemtly I interviewed at John Brown University at Siloam Springs, AR, on 25 January. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Taylor University
I think that is totally lame. they should have been able to weed down to the candidates that fit their criteria(on) from a resume and phone interview. It demonstrates they were not particularly serious, or kicking tires, or something else. They want more of the same, which is usually Death to an organization. But, whatever, that is their prerogative. Good luck with further searches -- you should think about looking at SC in the upstate area. There is a lot of manufacturing that is apparently having a hard time finding good people because of the house selling issue. --R On 8/1/12 7:29 PM, Craig wrote: I flew from ABQ to IND on Thursday, 19 July, interviewed at Taylor University on Friday, 20 July, and flew back to ABQ on 21 July. The interview went well and the faculty seemed interested in me. Yesterday, I received the following email from the Dean of Natural Sciences: -- Craig, We greatly appreciated your visit and the spirit you demonstrated while you were here. We believe that you could fit at Taylor in many ways. However, we have made a difficult decision that none of the candidates we interviewed is a close enough fit to what we need on a long-term basis to extend an offer. For a variety of reasons we need a person who has experience to help us drive our accreditation process and curriculum modifications in the future. Thank you for your interest and the time you spent with us. I pray that the Lord will lead you to the position He knows will be best for you. -- So, I won't be moving to Indiana. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Taylor University
Geez. Btw I am sure you said but didn't you interview in Arkansas or somewhere close by recemtly Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Craig wrote: > I flew from ABQ to IND on Thursday, 19 July, interviewed at Taylor > University on Friday, 20 July, and flew back to ABQ on 21 July. The > interview went well and the faculty seemed interested in me. > > Yesterday, I received the following email from the Dean of Natural > Sciences: > > -- > Craig, > > We greatly appreciated your visit and the spirit you demonstrated while > you were here. We believe that you could fit at Taylor in many ways. > However, we have made a difficult decision that none of the candidates > we interviewed is a close enough fit to what we need on a long-term > basis to extend an offer. For a variety of reasons we need a person who > has experience to help us drive our accreditation process and curriculum > modifications in the future. > > Thank you for your interest and the time you spent with us. > > I pray that the Lord will lead you to the position He knows will be best > for you. > -- > > So, I won't be moving to Indiana. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Taylor University
I flew from ABQ to IND on Thursday, 19 July, interviewed at Taylor University on Friday, 20 July, and flew back to ABQ on 21 July. The interview went well and the faculty seemed interested in me. Yesterday, I received the following email from the Dean of Natural Sciences: -- Craig, We greatly appreciated your visit and the spirit you demonstrated while you were here. We believe that you could fit at Taylor in many ways. However, we have made a difficult decision that none of the candidates we interviewed is a close enough fit to what we need on a long-term basis to extend an offer. For a variety of reasons we need a person who has experience to help us drive our accreditation process and curriculum modifications in the future. Thank you for your interest and the time you spent with us. I pray that the Lord will lead you to the position He knows will be best for you. -- So, I won't be moving to Indiana. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
