Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!
Chris James wrote: Well, there are good dealers bad dealers (and good bad service/parts departments). Re-reading Kaleb's post, a chat with the adviser regarding previous service history, prior to handing over the keys may have prevented the up-selling improved his experience. Everyone knows those Airmatic shocks are $$$ (just by themselves) to have replaced at the dealer, no surprise there. Yes, if he let them know that he'd run the diagnostics himself, they wouldn't have tried to rip him off (this time) and he wouldn't have learned that they tried to rip people off. Myself, I think it was a lesson worth learning. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!
On Sep 12, 2013 1:12 PM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: The '14 E250 BlueTEC's are finally arriving at dealers! It's 2.1L 4cyl turbo diesel is rated at 28/45 MPG! I am not paying $55,000 for a four-cylinder car. Now a smooth little 2.1-liter straight six, on the other hand... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!
Well, there are good dealers bad dealers (and good bad service/parts departments). Re-reading Kaleb's post, a chat with the adviser regarding previous service history, prior to handing over the keys may have prevented the up-selling improved his experience. Everyone knows those Airmatic shocks are $$$ (just by themselves) to have replaced at the dealer, no surprise there. If you can afford it, I don't see why a new Mercedes diesel should not be considered enjoyed. The cars now going on 20-30 years are certainly not issue or trouble free with far more expensive bits that are needing to be replaced then a new car off the lot would have! :-) On 9/15/2013 10:20 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com Date: 9/15/2013 8:48 PM I think Kaleb provided a very good reason earlier when he informed us as to the level of service received at the local dealer. These things are as complicated as a modern petrol burner and as such will more than likely have as many issues, in their electronic management systems and will have expensive bits that are needing to be replaced on a regular basis. Anyone that things they will get old school mechanical Diesel reliability out of these things, could be mistaken. Then there is the question of how much more these will cost, compared to a similar MB with a petrol engine? Hendrik who will not be buying a bluetec -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!
'Wouldn't mind having a nearly showroom '87 300 SDL - not black, though I used to think that was the most appropriate color for 'em 'til got 18 years of first-hand education. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here! On Sep 12, 2013 1:12 PM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: The '14 E250 BlueTEC's are finally arriving at dealers! It's 2.1L 4cyl turbo diesel is rated at 28/45 MPG! I am not paying $55,000 for a four-cylinder car. Now a smooth little 2.1-liter straight six, on the other hand... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!
Well I told the service writer the pump was new, I did not mention that I had the same test equipment they had and ran the same test beforehand, I mentioned it after they tried to get me to replace the compressor Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: Well, there are good dealers bad dealers (and good bad service/parts departments). Re-reading Kaleb's post, a chat with the adviser regarding previous service history, prior to handing over the keys may have prevented the up-selling improved his experience. Everyone knows those Airmatic shocks are $$$ (just by themselves) to have replaced at the dealer, no surprise there. If you can afford it, I don't see why a new Mercedes diesel should not be considered enjoyed. The cars now going on 20-30 years are certainly not issue or trouble free with far more expensive bits that are needing to be replaced then a new car off the lot would have! :-) On 9/15/2013 10:20 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com Date: 9/15/2013 8:48 PM I think Kaleb provided a very good reason earlier when he informed us as to the level of service received at the local dealer. These things are as complicated as a modern petrol burner and as such will more than likely have as many issues, in their electronic management systems and will have expensive bits that are needing to be replaced on a regular basis. Anyone that things they will get old school mechanical Diesel reliability out of these things, could be mistaken. Then there is the question of how much more these will cost, compared to a similar MB with a petrol engine? Hendrik who will not be buying a bluetec -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!
Well, that's disappointing. It's a good thing you have the necessary diagnostic equipment, I'm sure it's paid for itself by now. On 9/16/2013 6:27 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Date: 9/16/2013 4:57 PM Well I told the service writer the pump was new, I did not mention that I had the same test equipment they had and ran the same test beforehand, I mentioned it after they tried to get me to replace the compressor -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!
And when it is time to stop you can pee 2 gallons to refill the exhaust cleaner tank --R On 9/12/13 4:12 PM, Chris James wrote: You could go nearly 1000 miles on a single tank! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!
Sounds like my Passat - On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: The '14 E250 BlueTEC's are finally arriving at dealers! It's 2.1L 4cyl turbo diesel is rated at 28/45 MPG! Amazing! You could go nearly 1000 miles on a single tank! Glad MB finally brought over a smaller engined diesel E-Class. With a 4matic version to follow no less! I know, I know, all the new MB's are all ugly, full of plastic, over complicated no longer special, but seriously who on here wouldn't want to be able to have one of these parked in your driveway or garage? -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!
Lunar Blue is nice. I must say, that I much prefer the luxury package over the sport package with the huge star on the grill on the new E. '14 E350 luxury in Lunar Blue http://www.autobase.com/cgi/showphoto.exe?bc=12092720photo=-1size=1024 On 9/12/2013 9:02 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: Subject: Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here! From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Date: 9/12/2013 8:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Me, too; wonder if they gonna paint anything besides black, white or silver? Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here! I might have to buy one of those -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!
Except 10 times the car because its a Benz Sent from my iPhone On Sep 12, 2013, at 8:33 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like my Passat - On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: The '14 E250 BlueTEC's are finally arriving at dealers! It's 2.1L 4cyl turbo diesel is rated at 28/45 MPG! Amazing! You could go nearly 1000 miles on a single tank! Glad MB finally brought over a smaller engined diesel E-Class. With a 4matic version to follow no less! I know, I know, all the new MB's are all ugly, full of plastic, over complicated no longer special, but seriously who on here wouldn't want to be able to have one of these parked in your driveway or garage? -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!
For the price difference, I hope so! Given what I experienced driving the 2012 model Benz cars, I doubt it. On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Except 10 times the car because its a Benz On Sep 12, 2013, at 8:33 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like my Passat - -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!
I might have to buy one of those On 9/12/2013 3:12 PM, Chris James wrote: The '14 E250 BlueTEC's are finally arriving at dealers! http://www.benzblogger.com/2013/09/2014-mercedes-benz-e250-bluetec-arrives-at-atlanta-classic-cars.html http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-mercedes-benz-e250-bluetec-diesel-first-drive-review It's 2.1L 4cyl turbo diesel is rated at 28/45 MPG! Amazing! You could go nearly 1000 miles on a single tank! Glad MB finally brought over a smaller engined diesel E-Class. With a 4matic version to follow no less! I know, I know, all the new MB's are all ugly, full of plastic, over complicated no longer special, but seriously who on here wouldn't want to be able to have one of these parked in your driveway or garage? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!
Me, too; wonder if they gonna paint anything besides black, white or silver? Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here! I might have to buy one of those On 9/12/2013 3:12 PM, Chris James wrote: The '14 E250 BlueTEC's are finally arriving at dealers! http://www.benzblogger.com/2013/09/2014-mercedes-benz-e250-bluetec-arrives-at-atlanta-classic-cars.html http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-mercedes-benz-e250-bluetec-diesel-first-drive-review It's 2.1L 4cyl turbo diesel is rated at 28/45 MPG! Amazing! You could go nearly 1000 miles on a single tank! Glad MB finally brought over a smaller engined diesel E-Class. With a 4matic version to follow no less! I know, I know, all the new MB's are all ugly, full of plastic, over complicated no longer special, but seriously who on here wouldn't want to be able to have one of these parked in your driveway or garage? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!
The '14 E250 BlueTEC's are finally arriving at dealers! http://www.benzblogger.com/2013/09/2014-mercedes-benz-e250-bluetec-arrives-at-atlanta-classic-cars.html http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-mercedes-benz-e250-bluetec-diesel-first-drive-review It's 2.1L 4cyl turbo diesel is rated at 28/45 MPG! Amazing! You could go nearly 1000 miles on a single tank! Glad MB finally brought over a smaller engined diesel E-Class. With a 4matic version to follow no less! I know, I know, all the new MB's are all ugly, full of plastic, over complicated no longer special, but seriously who on here wouldn't want to be able to have one of these parked in your driveway or garage? -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
