Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Help Needed
No, the 240D did not. Marshall Booth wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: If the car has automatic climate control, my bet is the servo isn't parking. That fuse may be in an inline holder separate from the fuse box. I don't believe that the 240D ever came with the servo controlled climate control system. We ARE still talking about a 123.123 240D aren't we? Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Help Needed - Solved?
When I needed a alternator for mine the prices were usually around $100 for a remanufactured one and thats a genuine Bosch. Thats a 55 amp so they aren't overly expensive B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I found the problem. The alternator isn't generating any current. The barcode label on it says World Class Remanufacturing. Thanks all for the help. Bruce --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B Dike wrote: All, My 77 240D battery is draining every couple days. It occurs with a couple different good batteries, so it's either the charging system or a current drain. Is there a simple way to check the alternater and voltage regulator? I only have a small multimeter. If a replacement alternator is required, the most reliable option is a GENUINE Bosch rebuild (that's not just a rebuilt Bosch alternator, but one that BOSCH rebuilds) that will come with a 2 year warranty including road service. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 333kmi 'His' 85 300CD 234kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 185kmi 'Theirs' (Back in Commission) 77 240D 199kmi 'The Brown Car' __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Help Needed - Solved?
did you pull the VR and make sure it's not just worn out brushes? isildur On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, B Dike wrote: I think I found the problem. The alternator isn't generating any current. The barcode label on it says World Class Remanufacturing. Thanks all for the help. Bruce --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B Dike wrote: All, My 77 240D battery is draining every couple days. It occurs with a couple different good batteries, so it's either the charging system or a current drain. Is there a simple way to check the alternater and voltage regulator? I only have a small multimeter. If a replacement alternator is required, the most reliable option is a GENUINE Bosch rebuild (that's not just a rebuilt Bosch alternator, but one that BOSCH rebuilds) that will come with a 2 year warranty including road service. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 333kmi 'His' 85 300CD 234kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 185kmi 'Theirs' (Back in Commission) 77 240D 199kmi 'The Brown Car' __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Help Needed - Solved?
Yes, the brushes looked fine, just like those in the picture Marshall posted. B. --- G.E. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you pull the VR and make sure it's not just worn out brushes? isildur On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, B Dike wrote: I think I found the problem. The alternator isn't generating any current. The barcode label on it says World Class Remanufacturing. Thanks all for the help. Bruce --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B Dike wrote: All, My 77 240D battery is draining every couple days. It occurs with a couple different good batteries, so it's either the charging system or a current drain. Is there a simple way to check the alternater and voltage regulator? I only have a small multimeter. If a replacement alternator is required, the most reliable option is a GENUINE Bosch rebuild (that's not just a rebuilt Bosch alternator, but one that BOSCH rebuilds) that will come with a 2 year warranty including road service. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 333kmi 'His' 85 300CD 234kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 185kmi 'Theirs' (Back in Commission) 77 240D 199kmi 'The Brown Car' __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 333kmi 'His' 85 300CD 234kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 185kmi 'Theirs' (Back in Commission) 77 240D 199kmi 'The Brown Car' __ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/
Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Help Needed
If pulling fuses doesn't stop it, it may be a bad diode in the alt. Just went through that with the TD. In that case, the charging indicator light sometimes would glow with the car shut off and the key out. The light may be dim enough that is noticeable only after dark. If your light is on when the key is off, pull the alt first. save some time. In that case, find a used alt, put new brushes/regulator on it and change out the unit. They wanted about $250 for a reman at the mcparts stores. I used the diode board from a no-good alt, but that is not simple. Loren At 10:05 PM 9/26/2005, you wrote: On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:50:46 -0700 (PDT) B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, My 77 240D battery is draining every couple days. It occurs with a couple different good batteries, so it's either the charging system or a current drain. Is there a simple way to check the alternater and voltage regulator? I only have a small multimeter. The repeated draining is hard on your battery -- they can take only 10 or 12 cycles of complete discharge before they give up. Start the engine and measure the battery voltage. With everything off, the voltage should be 13.8 to 14.4 V. If it's not, you've either got a large drain, a bad alternator/regulator, or a bad battery. If the voltage is correct, turn everything in the car off and then connect a light bulb in series with the ground lead to the battery. If the light bulb glows, you have a drain. Pull fuses until the bulb goes out, then investigate the circuits for the last fuse you pulled. Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Help Needed
I was not advocating buying from mcparts. Just stating the price range. I was hundreds of miles from home, and couldn't sit until parts came from Rusty, no matter how fast he is. Besides it was a weekend, and nothing would have shipped until Monday. At 10:41 PM 9/26/2005, you wrote: On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 22:16:27 -0500 Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In that case, find a used alt, put new brushes/regulator on it and change out the unit. They wanted about $250 for a reman at the mcparts stores. There are those on this list who have had abysmal success with the mcparts rebuilts -- they say Rusty is the only way to go (and, IIRC, he is less than $250). Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Help Needed
B Dike wrote: All, My 77 240D battery is draining every couple days. It occurs with a couple different good batteries, so it's either the charging system or a current drain. Is there a simple way to check the alternater and voltage regulator? I only have a small multimeter. If a replacement alternator is required, the most reliable option is a GENUINE Bosch rebuild (that's not just a rebuilt Bosch alternator, but one that BOSCH rebuilds) that will come with a 2 year warranty including road service. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Help Needed
Mitch Haley wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: If the car has automatic climate control, my bet is the servo isn't parking. That fuse may be in an inline holder separate from the fuse box. I don't believe that the 240D ever came with the servo controlled climate control system. We ARE still talking about a 123.123 240D aren't we? Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Help Needed
That's correct Marshall. The climate controls are manual in this car - 77 240D. Also, I didn't see any mention in the thread about a voltage regulator...any way to isolate and test it? Thanks, Bruce --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: If the car has automatic climate control, my bet is the servo isn't parking. That fuse may be in an inline holder separate from the fuse box. I don't believe that the 240D ever came with the servo controlled climate control system. We ARE still talking about a 123.123 240D aren't we? Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 333kmi 'His' 85 300CD 234kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 185kmi 'Theirs' (Back in Commission) 77 240D 199kmi 'The Brown Car' __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Help Needed
B Dike wrote: That's correct Marshall. The climate controls are manual in this car - 77 240D. Also, I didn't see any mention in the thread about a voltage regulator...any way to isolate and test it? The regulator should hold the charge voltage below about 14-14.4 V under any condition. The alternator should deliver 13.4 V or more under little or no load at idle. If it does that and the brushes are at least half as long as new, the regulator is probably fine. Compare the brush length to these: http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/F401039368BOS.JPG Brushes last about 150 kmi in MY cars (over the last 20+ years)! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Help Needed
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 11:34:11PM -0400, Mitch Haley wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: If the voltage is correct, turn everything in the car off and then connect a light bulb in series with the ground lead to the battery. If the light bulb glows, you have a drain. Pull fuses until the bulb goes out, then investigate the circuits for the last fuse you pulled. If the car has automatic climate control, my bet is the servo isn't parking. That fuse may be in an inline holder separate from the fuse box. That would have been my guess also, but the ACC didn't appear in W123s until 78, and even then, only in 300Ds. I don't know if the wagons ever got it, didn't get that far into the reading last night. K, about to tear apart a parts servo with a cracked case
