Re: [MBZ] Trucks, on-topic
Sounds like it needs a smaller turbo that would spin up faster. My Jetta is on boost by about 1200rpm... -Curt On Monday, May 28, 2018, 7:06:05 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > > You commented that it lacks torque. Do you think that is that mostly a > factor of gearing? It seems to lack off-the-line torque. Once the turbo spools up, about 2000 RPM, it's fine. I suspect gearing, and the extra-tall tires. (Truck 'should' have 215/75R15, but has 265/75/R16, which at 31.6" are 4" taller, resulting in 2" more ground clearance and higher gearing.) It's OK, but imbalanced feeling. Especially when compared to my lamented 200D W115, which had at best half the horsepower. The truck will clearly go faster, but feels less driveable. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trucks, on-topic
> > How did they mate the Mercedes engine to the Mazda transmission? This very truck is, I believe, what you will get when you Google the mating. So, if that is indeed the case, the two flywheels were mated in some fashion, and a bell adapter fabricated. I have not looked closely, as I guess I don't really care. An oil gauge should be easy to rig with parts from a 123. There is a mechanical gauge, it just needs to be hooked up. I think it's fairly important to do so, before it hits the woods. The oil cooler is mounted below the radiator, and is most out in harm's way. I'm thinking about more of a cowcatcher front-end protection scheme. Beware the tin worm! My dad had one, in Wisconsin, that literally rusted > in half and was sagging in the middle. So long as I don't drive it in winter, on our @#$% salted roads, it should be fine. Currently it does not look rusty at all to me. Perhaps some English undercoating? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trucks, on-topic
> > You commented that it lacks torque. Do you think that is that mostly a > factor of gearing? It seems to lack off-the-line torque. Once the turbo spools up, about 2000 RPM, it's fine. I suspect gearing, and the extra-tall tires. (Truck 'should' have 215/75R15, but has 265/75/R16, which at 31.6" are 4" taller, resulting in 2" more ground clearance and higher gearing.) It's OK, but imbalanced feeling. Especially when compared to my lamented 200D W115, which had at best half the horsepower. The truck will clearly go faster, but feels less driveable. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trucks, on-topic
You commented that it lacks torque. Do you think that is that mostly a factor of gearing? Diesels normally have pretty decent torque so I am surprised that it lacks it. I might have guessed it would be the other way around and it would be a stump puller. RB On 28/05/2018 4:38 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: How did they mate the Mercedes engine to the Mazda transmission? This very truck is, I believe, what you will get when you Google the mating. So, if that is indeed the case, the two flywheels were mated in some fashion, and a bell adapter fabricated. I have not looked closely, as I guess I don't really care. An oil gauge should be easy to rig with parts from a 123. There is a mechanical gauge, it just needs to be hooked up. I think it's fairly important to do so, before it hits the woods. The oil cooler is mounted below the radiator, and is most out in harm's way. I'm thinking about more of a cowcatcher front-end protection scheme. Beware the tin worm! My dad had one, in Wisconsin, that literally rusted in half and was sagging in the middle. So long as I don't drive it in winter, on our @#$% salted roads, it should be fine. Currently it does not look rusty at all to me. Perhaps some English undercoating? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trucks, on-topic
The 16" wheels are Toyota wheels, they've got center logo caps. The protruding hub lockers on the front prevent them from being used there. Thumb starter switch, a toggle for glow/kill. Key does nothing but power the gauges, etc. I like its crude elegance, but wish the original instrument cluster could have been preserved. Glow plugs hooked up with a Ford starter relay, 12ga wiring somewhat inadequate, since it's a single wire to one plug and chained to the others. Motor mounts standard Benz, screwed to perches welded forwards of the originals. Left side mount oily and collapsed. Strange blowby oil recovery system. Stuff there, not sure about it, a couple of metal bottles, like pill bottles in size. Son dislikes the name "Mazcedes", prefers "Otto von Hirohito." -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trucks, on-topic
Beware the tin worm! My dad had one, in Wisconsin, that literally rusted in half and was sagging in the middle. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 27, 2018 11:14:10 AM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >The website information on the Mazcedes is up: > >http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/mazdadt.html > >Pictures, etc. > >-- Jim >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trucks, on-topic
Interesting! How did they mate the Mercedes engine to the Mazda transmission? An oil gauge should be easy to rig with parts from a 123. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 27, 2018 11:14:10 AM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >The website information on the Mazcedes is up: > >http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/mazdadt.html > >Pictures, etc. > >-- Jim >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trucks, on-topic
Thanks - interesting project. On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The website information on the Mazcedes is up: > > http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/mazdadt.html > > Pictures, etc. > > -- Jim > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trucks, on-topic
Yep. HK, who used to own one of the oldest dealerships in the state, and the oldest MB dealership, also started selling mazdas in the 70s. He really had high regard for the mazda p'ups of the period, of which yours in included. clay monroe via Mercedes wrote: Well done clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately& well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trucks, on-topic
The website information on the Mazcedes is up: http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/mazdadt.html Pictures, etc. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trucks, on-topic
Well done clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > On May 25, 2018, at 10:56 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > I just bought a 4x4 Mazda B2600 LX to use as a woods truck. Stick shift, > decent condition, no rust. 1987 model year. The only notable thing about > it is the OM617 turbo motor, and that the fan and radiator are on the front > side of the grille, behind the brush guard. $2500. Will replace the POS > gas Chevy that I'm sick of fighting. Not as big, not as strong, but I bet > it'll always start when I want it to. > > -- Jim > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trucks, on-topic
I picked up the truck today. Drives surprisingly well, but the overall experience is crude, Unimog-ish. At idle it's very noisy and vibratory. At freeway speeds it smooths right out. Boost gauge goes up to about 14 PSI before the overboost cutout drops it back to 10. Has very little low-end torque, feels like the 190D rather than the 200D, which has a very truck-like feel. You need to keep the RPM up on this to keep power on. It'll be fine, regardless. The original conversion was a non-turbo engine. The next owner switched it out for a turbo motor. The next owner sold off the spare motor, and then eventually sold me the truck. Pix and stuff to follow, when time allows. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trucks, on-topic
Sounds cool - send/post photos? On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 12:56 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I just bought a 4x4 Mazda B2600 LX to use as a woods truck. Stick shift, > decent condition, no rust. 1987 model year. The only notable thing about > it is the OM617 turbo motor, and that the fan and radiator are on the front > side of the grille, behind the brush guard. $2500. Will replace the POS > gas Chevy that I'm sick of fighting. Not as big, not as strong, but I bet > it'll always start when I want it to. > > -- Jim > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Trucks, on-topic
I just bought a 4x4 Mazda B2600 LX to use as a woods truck. Stick shift, decent condition, no rust. 1987 model year. The only notable thing about it is the OM617 turbo motor, and that the fan and radiator are on the front side of the grille, behind the brush guard. $2500. Will replace the POS gas Chevy that I'm sick of fighting. Not as big, not as strong, but I bet it'll always start when I want it to. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
