Re: [MBZ] WD40
Does aliphatic hydrocarbon translate to solvent, naptha, petroleum medium aliphatic? Or is the latter simply one of many aliphatic hydrocarbons? I am not a chemist and if they are one and the same then I shall shut off my fingers..lol Mike On Jul 20, 2013 9:02 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: *sigh* The MSDS says: Aliphatic Hydrocarbon 45-50% Petroleum Base Oil 25% LVP Aliphatic Hydrocarbon 12-18% Carbon Dioxide 2-3% - which is probably the propellant Other 10% Snopes says: Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic 60% Petroleum Base Oil 15-20% Corrosion Inhibitor 1-10% Wetting Agent 1-10% Fragrance 0-1% Carbon dioxide 2-3% Now match the two lists up. C02 agrees so thats out. Fragrance and wetting agent are probably contained in other so we can kick that out. Petroleum base oil matches so kick that out too. If you add Aliphatic Hydrocarbon and LVP Aliphatic Hydrocarbon together you more or less get Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic so we can remove those too. So the only one left is wetting agent which also probably lives in other. So what exactly are you talking about? -Curt Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:18:32 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] WD40 Message-ID: CALHJ_1DqiN8q-DLAk0wjobuH0QTg=5kqlftrou8q2bd6gpn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I can agree it is not fish oil. That is no problem. I read the MSDS and it does not agree with what Snopes said. Simple. Read it yourself. I am also the one who posted the link from WD40 saying it is not fish oil so I am not still arguing that point. Mike On Jul 19, 2013 10:43 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So you're clinging to Aliphatic Hydrocarbon which they say (per snopes) is Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic? I think thats the lamest ass argument I've ever heard. If you had something, ANYTHING that was reasonable I'd listen but this is the kind of argument a little kid thats losing an argument badly makes. Go camp out at the WD40 factory and catch a picture of a truck dripping a little water. Claim the water smells like fish and I'll give you a little credence. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD40
Oh, and the other point..wouldn't a petroleum based aliphatic hydrocarbon such as naptha or stoddard solvent be listed as carcinogenic or at least toxic? And the exposure levels seem very high for the aliphatic hydrocarbon compared to the petroleum base oils. What do you make of that? I thought maybe fish oil would be an aliphatic hydrocarbon that would not be listed toxic Maybe there are many others. I'll have to do some reading, I am curious. Mike On Jul 21, 2013 3:26 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Does aliphatic hydrocarbon translate to solvent, naptha, petroleum medium aliphatic? Or is the latter simply one of many aliphatic hydrocarbons? I am not a chemist and if they are one and the same then I shall shut off my fingers..lol Mike On Jul 20, 2013 9:02 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: *sigh* The MSDS says: Aliphatic Hydrocarbon 45-50% Petroleum Base Oil 25% LVP Aliphatic Hydrocarbon 12-18% Carbon Dioxide 2-3% - which is probably the propellant Other 10% Snopes says: Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic 60% Petroleum Base Oil 15-20% Corrosion Inhibitor 1-10% Wetting Agent 1-10% Fragrance 0-1% Carbon dioxide 2-3% Now match the two lists up. C02 agrees so thats out. Fragrance and wetting agent are probably contained in other so we can kick that out. Petroleum base oil matches so kick that out too. If you add Aliphatic Hydrocarbon and LVP Aliphatic Hydrocarbon together you more or less get Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic so we can remove those too. So the only one left is wetting agent which also probably lives in other. So what exactly are you talking about? -Curt Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:18:32 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] WD40 Message-ID: CALHJ_1DqiN8q-DLAk0wjobuH0QTg=5kqlftrou8q2bd6gpn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I can agree it is not fish oil. That is no problem. I read the MSDS and it does not agree with what Snopes said. Simple. Read it yourself. I am also the one who posted the link from WD40 saying it is not fish oil so I am not still arguing that point. Mike On Jul 19, 2013 10:43 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So you're clinging to Aliphatic Hydrocarbon which they say (per snopes) is Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic? I think thats the lamest ass argument I've ever heard. If you had something, ANYTHING that was reasonable I'd listen but this is the kind of argument a little kid thats losing an argument badly makes. Go camp out at the WD40 factory and catch a picture of a truck dripping a little water. Claim the water smells like fish and I'll give you a little credence. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD40
I guess, to answer my own question, it appears everything from mineral oil to stoddard solvent, naptha and kerosene are considered non-toxic due to ingestion according to the poison control center. Interesting. Mike On Jul 21, 2013 4:00 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, and the other point..wouldn't a petroleum based aliphatic hydrocarbon such as naptha or stoddard solvent be listed as carcinogenic or at least toxic? And the exposure levels seem very high for the aliphatic hydrocarbon compared to the petroleum base oils. What do you make of that? I thought maybe fish oil would be an aliphatic hydrocarbon that would not be listed toxic Maybe there are many others. I'll have to do some reading, I am curious. Mike On Jul 21, 2013 3:26 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Does aliphatic hydrocarbon translate to solvent, naptha, petroleum medium aliphatic? Or is the latter simply one of many aliphatic hydrocarbons? I am not a chemist and if they are one and the same then I shall shut off my fingers..lol Mike On Jul 20, 2013 9:02 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: *sigh* The MSDS says: Aliphatic Hydrocarbon 45-50% Petroleum Base Oil 25% LVP Aliphatic Hydrocarbon 12-18% Carbon Dioxide 2-3% - which is probably the propellant Other 10% Snopes says: Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic 60% Petroleum Base Oil 15-20% Corrosion Inhibitor 1-10% Wetting Agent 1-10% Fragrance 0-1% Carbon dioxide 2-3% Now match the two lists up. C02 agrees so thats out. Fragrance and wetting agent are probably contained in other so we can kick that out. Petroleum base oil matches so kick that out too. If you add Aliphatic Hydrocarbon and LVP Aliphatic Hydrocarbon together you more or less get Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic so we can remove those too. So the only one left is wetting agent which also probably lives in other. So what exactly are you talking about? -Curt Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:18:32 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] WD40 Message-ID: CALHJ_1DqiN8q-DLAk0wjobuH0QTg=5kqlftrou8q2bd6gpn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I can agree it is not fish oil. That is no problem. I read the MSDS and it does not agree with what Snopes said. Simple. Read it yourself. I am also the one who posted the link from WD40 saying it is not fish oil so I am not still arguing that point. Mike On Jul 19, 2013 10:43 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So you're clinging to Aliphatic Hydrocarbon which they say (per snopes) is Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic? I think thats the lamest ass argument I've ever heard. If you had something, ANYTHING that was reasonable I'd listen but this is the kind of argument a little kid thats losing an argument badly makes. Go camp out at the WD40 factory and catch a picture of a truck dripping a little water. Claim the water smells like fish and I'll give you a little credence. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD40
That's because they aren't particularly toxic. Might make you puke, but won't poison you. Not that I recommend drinking WD-40. I suspect the contents are moderately oxygenated middle-weight linear hydrocarbons. Some minor lubricating properties, but the design intent was to displace water from electrical gear (particularly distributors and magnetos) and WD-40 DOES make an film upon oxidation. I'm in the process of getting it off some watches some genius lubricated by spraying them with WD-40 -- the odor is unmistakable. Just like varnish, it oxidizes into a solid film -- in the case of WD-40 it never really hardens, just gets very gummy and nasty. Wrecks a watch, to say the least, and will stop a typewriter from working as well (I've seen that, too). It is not, and should not be considered, a lubricant. OK as a penetrating oil, as far as it goes, but not great. Any health effects are going to be negative. One should NOT believe anything circulating on the internet without a reliable real source, there are no filters on input when any crackpot in the known universe can get access and post anything somewhere. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD40
I can agree it is not fish oil. That is no problem. I read the MSDS and it does not agree with what Snopes said. Simple. Read it yourself. I am also the one who posted the link from WD40 saying it is not fish oil so I am not still arguing that point. Mike On Jul 19, 2013 10:43 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So you're clinging to Aliphatic Hydrocarbon which they say (per snopes) is Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic? I think thats the lamest ass argument I've ever heard. If you had something, ANYTHING that was reasonable I'd listen but this is the kind of argument a little kid thats losing an argument badly makes. Go camp out at the WD40 factory and catch a picture of a truck dripping a little water. Claim the water smells like fish and I'll give you a little credence. -Curt Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:13:59 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) Message-ID: CALHJ_1AgQpMckMEYFbw8Sgg8Z9=zmo7lxpul-rurvo9caaz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 All I am saying is that is does not say what they say it says. Mike On Jul 19, 2013 6:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The MSDS doesn't say it IS fish oil so you haven't provided any proof either... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD40
*sigh* The MSDS says: Aliphatic Hydrocarbon 45-50% Petroleum Base Oil 25% LVP Aliphatic Hydrocarbon 12-18% Carbon Dioxide 2-3% - which is probably the propellant Other 10% Snopes says: Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic 60% Petroleum Base Oil 15-20% Corrosion Inhibitor 1-10% Wetting Agent 1-10% Fragrance 0-1% Carbon dioxide 2-3% Now match the two lists up. C02 agrees so thats out. Fragrance and wetting agent are probably contained in other so we can kick that out. Petroleum base oil matches so kick that out too. If you add Aliphatic Hydrocarbon and LVP Aliphatic Hydrocarbon together you more or less get Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic so we can remove those too. So the only one left is wetting agent which also probably lives in other. So what exactly are you talking about? -Curt Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:18:32 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] WD40 Message-ID: CALHJ_1DqiN8q-DLAk0wjobuH0QTg=5kqlftrou8q2bd6gpn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I can agree it is not fish oil. That is no problem. I read the MSDS and it does not agree with what Snopes said. Simple. Read it yourself. I am also the one who posted the link from WD40 saying it is not fish oil so I am not still arguing that point. Mike On Jul 19, 2013 10:43 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So you're clinging to Aliphatic Hydrocarbon which they say (per snopes) is Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic? I think thats the lamest ass argument I've ever heard. If you had something, ANYTHING that was reasonable I'd listen but this is the kind of argument a little kid thats losing an argument badly makes. Go camp out at the WD40 factory and catch a picture of a truck dripping a little water. Claim the water smells like fish and I'll give you a little credence. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD40
So you're clinging to Aliphatic Hydrocarbon which they say (per snopes) is Solvent, naptha petroleum, medium aliphatic? I think thats the lamest ass argument I've ever heard. If you had something, ANYTHING that was reasonable I'd listen but this is the kind of argument a little kid thats losing an argument badly makes. Go camp out at the WD40 factory and catch a picture of a truck dripping a little water. Claim the water smells like fish and I'll give you a little credence. -Curt Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:13:59 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) Message-ID: CALHJ_1AgQpMckMEYFbw8Sgg8Z9=zmo7lxpul-rurvo9caaz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 All I am saying is that is does not say what they say it says. Mike On Jul 19, 2013 6:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The MSDS doesn't say it IS fish oil so you haven't provided any proof either... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD40 to start Diesel engines
I started - - personally started - - a small single cylinder Yanmar Diesel engine with WD40. However I got my knuckles severally rapped by the late Dr Booth for suggesting starting aids for the MB pre chamber Diesels. Hendrik Wonko the Sane wrote: I saw -- personally saw -- it start a diesel commuter bus last month, when the glow plugs went out. Not as fast as ether but just as effective. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD40 to start Diesel engines
My understanding -- from this well seasoned and experienced mechanic -- was that you DO NOT (in honor of Dr. Booth) USE ETHER on a small diesel engine. You use WD-40. I had offered to run home and get my can of ether when he just about took my head off. When I offered to run home and get my can of WD-40, he said that would be nice, if I didn't mind. As an aside, he didn't even say thanks when I showed up with the WD-40. He got the bus started and went back to his shop without as much as an up yours to me. I think he knew I was management, based on my clothes, and the guy he was trying to help out (the bus driver that day) was more at his corporate level. On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I started - - personally started - - a small single cylinder Yanmar Diesel engine with WD40. However I got my knuckles severally rapped by the late Dr Booth for suggesting starting aids for the MB pre chamber Diesels. Hendrik Wonko the Sane wrote: I saw -- personally saw -- it start a diesel commuter bus last month, when the glow plugs went out. Not as fast as ether but just as effective. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD40 to start Diesel engines
Yep. ether can pre-ignite during the compression stroke cause a serious pressure spike. WD-40 will too but it burns much slower does not cause the spike that ether can cause. Gasoline is just about as bad as ether. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] WD40 to start Diesel engines My understanding -- from this well seasoned and experienced mechanic -- was that you DO NOT (in honor of Dr. Booth) USE ETHER on a small diesel engine. You use WD-40. I had offered to run home and get my can of ether when he just about took my head off. When I offered to run home and get my can of WD-40, he said that would be nice, if I didn't mind. As an aside, he didn't even say thanks when I showed up with the WD-40. He got the bus started and went back to his shop without as much as an up yours to me. I think he knew I was management, based on my clothes, and the guy he was trying to help out (the bus driver that day) was more at his corporate level. On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I started - - personally started - - a small single cylinder Yanmar Diesel engine with WD40. However I got my knuckles severally rapped by the late Dr Booth for suggesting starting aids for the MB pre chamber Diesels. Hendrik Wonko the Sane wrote: I saw -- personally saw -- it start a diesel commuter bus last month, when the glow plugs went out. Not as fast as ether but just as effective. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1740 - Release Date: 10/22/2008 7:24 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1740 - Release Date: 10/22/2008 7:24 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] WD40
I heard or read somewhere (probably here) that WD40 was the 40th formulation whoever invented it tried to get a water displacer, and it is basically diesel fuel in a spray can. Anybody know the story of that stuff? I know that after it dries out in/on whatever it is sprayed in/on, it leaves a gummy residue (check the top of the spray can where it drips in there), which is why it is not good as a lube for locks and such. --R Allan Streib wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: WD-40 is the Wal-Mart of spray lubricants. I refuse to use it any more. The problem is it's not really a lubricant. It is a water displacer (that's what the WD stands for). It's good for drying out a distributor on the side of the road. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD40
WD40 is a water displacement not a lubricant! The product was developed to quickly dry out gear in the field. You can spray it on boots, tent fabric electronics gear with no ill effects the solution will immediately drive off moisture. At least you could spray it on the older electronics gear, I don't know about the newer stuff. It's not diesel fuel in a can - the actual formula is a closely guarded secret. WD40 was developed for the military at considerable government expense. This product is just one of 100's that were developed for the military that we benefit from. Another that comes to mind right away is Super Glue, which was developed as an adhesive that could be used to quickly close wounds in a field hospital. GPS was also developed for the military - so was the Automatic Transmission. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] WD40 I heard or read somewhere (probably here) that WD40 was the 40th formulation whoever invented it tried to get a water displacer, and it is basically diesel fuel in a spray can. Anybody know the story of that stuff? I know that after it dries out in/on whatever it is sprayed in/on, it leaves a gummy residue (check the top of the spray can where it drips in there), which is why it is not good as a lube for locks and such. --R Allan Streib wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: WD-40 is the Wal-Mart of spray lubricants. I refuse to use it any more. The problem is it's not really a lubricant. It is a water displacer (that's what the WD stands for). It's good for drying out a distributor on the side of the road. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1738 - Release Date: 10/21/2008 2:10 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1738 - Release Date: 10/21/2008 2:10 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD40
I saw -- personally saw -- it start a diesel commuter bus last month, when the glow plugs went out. Not as fast as ether but just as effective. On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WD40 is a water displacement not a lubricant! The product was developed to quickly dry out gear in the field. You can spray it on boots, tent fabric electronics gear with no ill effects the solution will immediately drive off moisture. At least you could spray it on the older electronics gear, I don't know about the newer stuff. It's not diesel fuel in a can - the actual formula is a closely guarded secret. WD40 was developed for the military at considerable government expense. This product is just one of 100's that were developed for the military that we benefit from. Another that comes to mind right away is Super Glue, which was developed as an adhesive that could be used to quickly close wounds in a field hospital. GPS was also developed for the military - so was the Automatic Transmission. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] WD40 I heard or read somewhere (probably here) that WD40 was the 40th formulation whoever invented it tried to get a water displacer, and it is basically diesel fuel in a spray can. Anybody know the story of that stuff? I know that after it dries out in/on whatever it is sprayed in/on, it leaves a gummy residue (check the top of the spray can where it drips in there), which is why it is not good as a lube for locks and such. --R Allan Streib wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: WD-40 is the Wal-Mart of spray lubricants. I refuse to use it any more. The problem is it's not really a lubricant. It is a water displacer (that's what the WD stands for). It's good for drying out a distributor on the side of the road. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1738 - Release Date: 10/21/2008 2:10 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1738 - Release Date: 10/21/2008 2:10 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD40
I wiped down the light gray (should be black) 300E outside mirrors with a WD-40 heavily sprayed rag a couple of days ago. The mirrors are black again, even after driving 60 miles through heavy rain today. On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard or read somewhere (probably here) that WD40 was the 40th formulation whoever invented it tried to get a water displacer, and it is basically diesel fuel in a spray can. Anybody know the story of that stuff? I know that after it dries out in/on whatever it is sprayed in/on, it leaves a gummy residue (check the top of the spray can where it drips in there), which is why it is not good as a lube for locks and such. --R Allan Streib wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: WD-40 is the Wal-Mart of spray lubricants. I refuse to use it any more. The problem is it's not really a lubricant. It is a water displacer (that's what the WD stands for). It's good for drying out a distributor on the side of the road. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WD40
Yup. WWII vintage, no less. It is NOT a lubricant, and should not be used as one. Better than ether for starting recalcitrant diesels, though. Peter On Oct 22, 2008, at 3:36 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I heard or read somewhere (probably here) that WD40 was the 40th formulation whoever invented it tried to get a water displacer, and it is basically diesel fuel in a spray can. Anybody know the story of that stuff? I know that after it dries out in/on whatever it is sprayed in/on, it leaves a gummy residue (check the top of the spray can where it drips in there), which is why it is not good as a lube for locks and such. --R Allan Streib wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: WD-40 is the Wal-Mart of spray lubricants. I refuse to use it any more. The problem is it's not really a lubricant. It is a water displacer (that's what the WD stands for). It's good for drying out a distributor on the side of the road. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
