Re: [MBZ] Windshields
On Sep 25, 2015 5:37 PM, "Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > PGW is actually now a supplier for Mercedes. Didn't they buy PPG? > I'm not sure but that is interesting. The glass wasn't bad at all but not what I expected, and the hockey player installation (damage discovered months later) soured me on the deal. Now I wonder if Volvo glass is as cheap. That's what I need next. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields
On Sep 25, 2015 4:33 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > > Tom, > > The windshield is for the 1994 S420, not your former car, so don’t sweat it. > > So do you still have the gullwing windshield? Or was it for a restoration? > The windshield was for a '55 300SL restoration I assisted with. I saved the old pitted one with thoughts of a coffee table top but cracked it while moving houses and it was not flat enough to be practical anyway. I'll see if I can find pictures... Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields
PGW is actually now a supplier for Mercedes. Didn't they buy PPG? Jaime On Friday, September 25, 2015, Tom Savage via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On Sep 25, 2015 9:18 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" > > wrote: > > > > With a cheap Chinee piece of glass. That's the "FUYGO" stuff. My glass > people don't recommend it. > > > > If I want Pilkington it's closer to $300 reusing my molding. > > This sounds better than the new windshield in your '98. "We only use PPG > glass." Later... "No, I said PGW." Also, this, no joke, is the guy who > installed it, in case you were wondering why all the trim clips are broken: > https://youtu.be/38EhaJ3iJGU > > Tom > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields
Tom, The windshield is for the 1994 S420, not your former car, so don’t sweat it. So do you still have the gullwing windshield? Or was it for a restoration? Dan > On Sep 25, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Tom Savage via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Sep 25, 2015 9:11 AM, "Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes" > >> Genuine glass is worth the money and usually not so expensive. I put a >> windshield in my 300CD earlier this year and it was surprisingly cheap. >> > In 2007, I bought a Gullwing windshield from the dealer for $550. No one > could believe it. > I've learned my lesson. > > Tom > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields
On Sep 25, 2015 9:11 AM, "Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes" > Genuine glass is worth the money and usually not so expensive. I put a > windshield in my 300CD earlier this year and it was surprisingly cheap. > In 2007, I bought a Gullwing windshield from the dealer for $550. No one could believe it. I've learned my lesson. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields
On Sep 25, 2015 9:18 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > > With a cheap Chinee piece of glass. That's the "FUYGO" stuff. My glass people don't recommend it. > > If I want Pilkington it's closer to $300 reusing my molding. This sounds better than the new windshield in your '98. "We only use PPG glass." Later... "No, I said PGW." Also, this, no joke, is the guy who installed it, in case you were wondering why all the trim clips are broken: https://youtu.be/38EhaJ3iJGU Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields and Randy's IP Actuator
Thanks Dan! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On September 25, 2015 12:26:00 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >Just got back from the dealer. Here's the skinny on windshields from >MBUSA: > >If the cars are legacy models, like a W140 or W124, the dealer has to >call PPG in Dallas, who holds all of the NOS windshields. They in turn >check the inventory and report back to the dealer as far as >availability. > >My parts guy said this was something completely new to him, but that >it's been a while since he had needed to look up an older windshield. >He was stunned by the low cost, too. > >Do understand that if your parts guy is not motivated to check this out >or doesn't care to, you could get the "It's NLA" response, which is not >the case. Or he may just not know this is the process now. My guy >seemed to find out in short order, but I don't know from who. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields and Randy's IP Actuator
Randy, For what it's worth, we looked at the EPC using the gasket number and the "where used" function (you don't get this feature in the home version, sorry!). There appears to have been two styles only - the three bolt flange and the four bolt flange. Neither are still available. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 25, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > Thanks Dan. > > One would think that with the number of these old MB diesels still running > around, all over the world, those might still be in enough demand to have > them produced - especially since they are no doubt very similar to the one > for the 123. > > I ordered one from someone on ebay so I will soon know if it is the right one > and if it works. > > RB > >> On 25/09/2015 11:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> Just got back from the dealer. Here's the skinny on windshields from MBUSA: >> >> If the cars are legacy models, like a W140 or W124, the dealer has to call >> PPG in Dallas, who holds all of the NOS windshields. They in turn check the >> inventory and report back to the dealer as far as availability. >> >> My parts guy said this was something completely new to him, but that it's >> been a while since he had needed to look up an older windshield. He was >> stunned by the low cost, too. >> >> Do understand that if your parts guy is not motivated to check this out or >> doesn't care to, you could get the "It's NLA" response, which is not the >> case. Or he may just not know this is the process now. My guy seemed to find >> out in short order, but I don't know from who. >> >> As for Randy's shutoff actuator, it's very, very NLA in the EPC and Paragon. >> Sorry. >> >> That doesn't mean someone might not have an NOS one on the shelf, but it's >> highly unlikely. It was suggested that he contact the Classic Center, but I >> believe that he had some other sources for it? >> >> FWIW, the last price in the system for it was around $110 USD. >> >> Dan >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> With a cheap Chinee piece of glass. That's the "FUYGO" stuff. My glass >>> people don't recommend it. >>> >>> If I want Pilkington it's closer to $300 reusing my molding. >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields and Randy's IP Actuator
Thanks Dan. One would think that with the number of these old MB diesels still running around, all over the world, those might still be in enough demand to have them produced - especially since they are no doubt very similar to the one for the 123. I ordered one from someone on ebay so I will soon know if it is the right one and if it works. RB On 25/09/2015 11:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Just got back from the dealer. Here's the skinny on windshields from MBUSA: If the cars are legacy models, like a W140 or W124, the dealer has to call PPG in Dallas, who holds all of the NOS windshields. They in turn check the inventory and report back to the dealer as far as availability. My parts guy said this was something completely new to him, but that it's been a while since he had needed to look up an older windshield. He was stunned by the low cost, too. Do understand that if your parts guy is not motivated to check this out or doesn't care to, you could get the "It's NLA" response, which is not the case. Or he may just not know this is the process now. My guy seemed to find out in short order, but I don't know from who. As for Randy's shutoff actuator, it's very, very NLA in the EPC and Paragon. Sorry. That doesn't mean someone might not have an NOS one on the shelf, but it's highly unlikely. It was suggested that he contact the Classic Center, but I believe that he had some other sources for it? FWIW, the last price in the system for it was around $110 USD. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: With a cheap Chinee piece of glass. That's the "FUYGO" stuff. My glass people don't recommend it. If I want Pilkington it's closer to $300 reusing my molding. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields and Randy's IP Actuator
Just got back from the dealer. Here's the skinny on windshields from MBUSA: If the cars are legacy models, like a W140 or W124, the dealer has to call PPG in Dallas, who holds all of the NOS windshields. They in turn check the inventory and report back to the dealer as far as availability. My parts guy said this was something completely new to him, but that it's been a while since he had needed to look up an older windshield. He was stunned by the low cost, too. Do understand that if your parts guy is not motivated to check this out or doesn't care to, you could get the "It's NLA" response, which is not the case. Or he may just not know this is the process now. My guy seemed to find out in short order, but I don't know from who. As for Randy's shutoff actuator, it's very, very NLA in the EPC and Paragon. Sorry. That doesn't mean someone might not have an NOS one on the shelf, but it's highly unlikely. It was suggested that he contact the Classic Center, but I believe that he had some other sources for it? FWIW, the last price in the system for it was around $110 USD. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > With a cheap Chinee piece of glass. That's the "FUYGO" stuff. My glass people > don't recommend it. > > If I want Pilkington it's closer to $300 reusing my molding. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields
With a cheap Chinee piece of glass. That's the "FUYGO" stuff. My glass people don't recommend it. If I want Pilkington it's closer to $300 reusing my molding. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Or Safelite will come to your house and install for $211.60. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Too bad they are so big to store. Would be good item to buy & hoard for >> later flip. >> On Sep 25, 2015 9:44 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" >> wrote: >> >>> Just got off the phone with my parts guy. >>> >>> Four W140 windshields in the country at present. About $200 my cost. >>> >>> Waiting to hear back on Randy's shutoff actuator. >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields
Genuine glass is worth the money and usually not so expensive. I put a windshield in my 300CD earlier this year and it was surprisingly cheap. But then again, genuine everything is generally better! I replaced an aftermarket glass that was badly chipped. Poor quality. Jaime On Friday, September 25, 2015, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Just got off the phone with my parts guy. > > Four W140 windshields in the country at present. About $200 my cost. > > Waiting to hear back on Randy's shutoff actuator. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields
Or Safelite will come to your house and install for $211.60. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > Too bad they are so big to store. Would be good item to buy & hoard for > later flip. > On Sep 25, 2015 9:44 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> Just got off the phone with my parts guy. >> >> Four W140 windshields in the country at present. About $200 my cost. >> >> Waiting to hear back on Randy's shutoff actuator. >> >> Dan >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields
I don't know about that. Considering that aftermarket glass is readily available and cheaper, I'm not sure people would place a lot of value on OE glass. Now if they stopped making it, that's another issue Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > Too bad they are so big to store. Would be good item to buy & hoard for later > flip. > >> On Sep 25, 2015 9:44 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" >> wrote: >> Just got off the phone with my parts guy. >> >> Four W140 windshields in the country at present. About $200 my cost. >> >> Waiting to hear back on Randy's shutoff actuator. >> >> Dan >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshields
Too bad they are so big to store. Would be good item to buy & hoard for later flip. On Sep 25, 2015 9:44 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > Just got off the phone with my parts guy. > > Four W140 windshields in the country at present. About $200 my cost. > > Waiting to hear back on Randy's shutoff actuator. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Windshields
Just got off the phone with my parts guy. Four W140 windshields in the country at present. About $200 my cost. Waiting to hear back on Randy's shutoff actuator. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Windshields was Tire Opinions
Prices sound fair to high. Beware the frame preparation work. All old sealant must be removed, any rust needs to be remediated, and a really high quality metal primer/paint applied to the frame to prevent future rust which will crack the windshield. Going cheap is the most expensive route! My E300 has the scars to prove it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff wrote: >I have often wondered why nearly every MB I have owned over the years >had the "sandblasted" wear. I don't ever recall seeing this on a >domestic car, but then again, I haven't owned a domestic car that was >as old as one of the Benz'. > >The S500 is bad enough that headlight or sunlight at the right (or >wrong, for that matter) washes out your vision completely. Not a good >thing. > >I could wait a few weeks and stick it to my insurance company, but I >have an ethical issue with doing that... > >SafeLite is doing the new one for a little over $300, which I thought >was pretty good considering the size of the windshield. I checked on >the 300E, and they only want a little over $200 for that one. > >Dan > >Sent from my iPad > >On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:26 PM, "WILTON" wrote: > >> If your windshield is pitted, etc., or needs changing for whatever >reason, please change it and enjoy a crystal clear and much more >enjoyable view of the star and the rest of the world out there - you >won't regret it. My 350SDL's windshield was pitted when I got it in >'95; delayed replacement for coupla years; finally realized insurance >would do it (- deductable); got it changed and realized I had been >missing a much more pleasurable drive and clearer view of the world. >Fantastic difference! >> BTW, my windshield has PPG in center down at bottom; works great! >> >> Wilton >> >> - Original Message - From: "Tim C" >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:42 AM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tire Opinions >> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: >>> Gotta order my G. Daimler signature sticker from the Q. >>> >>> Wait, you can order those? I never replaced the windshield in the >SDL >>> because I didn't want to lose the sticker. >>> >>> Surprised I never thought to ask, honestly. :) >>> >>> Best, >>> -Tim >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
