Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
Since when do human joins work perfectly when "new"? I may not be a father, BUT I do know thisbabies ain't got it like a new car. That's in your 20 somethings. Geeze, old man, you're gettin a bituh On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:41:29 -0600, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marshall - You said the operative word -- WHEN THEY WERE NEW. T'aint like that anymore. It's like me and you -- parts don't work like they used to when they were new. And I have knees that will "testify" if you want them to. Don -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
Just a suggestion.
There is a plastic piece that surrounds the headrest rod and can be
moved upwards.
Move that upwards and push a small straw down along the headrest rod
w/the push button. Drip a little oil/penetrant/etc. down the straw.
Let it sit a while then move the headrest up and down and see if it
will help release the restraint..
Never did this Maybe Yes, Maybe No..
When all else fails.. Guess!
Take care,
Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
On Nov 7, 2005, at 6:31 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:
LT Don wrote:
Marshall --
I am 6'4" and 200 lbs., and in fairly good shape. I am yet to yank
out the
shot-gun side headrest on my 240D. Trust me, I've tried. If I push
any
harder on the button, Deb's seat will be part of the air cleaner.
If I yank
any harder on the headrest, I will be admitted inpatient for
hernia surgery.
I simply think that with the passage of time (in the case of my
car, almost
30 years) this stuff sticks.
I've only owned 3 123s ('80, '82 & '85) or tried to remove the
headrests
from them (and perhaps one or two more) when they were relatively new.
Very simple mechanism and always worked - ONCE I'd gotten them to work
the 1st time. I can't imagine what could fail (but clearly
something must).
Marshall
--
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190D 2.5
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Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
spray enough pb blaster in there, let it sit for a bit, then try again.
does the headrest move up and down at all?
work it ...
On 11/7/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Marshall -
>
> You said the operative word -- WHEN THEY WERE NEW.
>
> T'aint like that anymore.
>
> It's like me and you -- parts don't work like they used to when they were
> new. And I have knees that will "testify" if you want them to.
>
> Don
>
>
> On 11/8/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > LT Don wrote:
> > > Marshall --
> > >
> > > I am 6'4" and 200 lbs., and in fairly good shape. I am yet to yank out
> > the
> > > shot-gun side headrest on my 240D. Trust me, I've tried. If I push any
> > > harder on the button, Deb's seat will be part of the air cleaner. If I
> > yank
> > > any harder on the headrest, I will be admitted inpatient for hernia
> > surgery.
> > >
> > >
> > > I simply think that with the passage of time (in the case of my car,
> > almost
> > > 30 years) this stuff sticks.
> >
> > I've only owned 3 123s ('80, '82 & '85) or tried to remove the headrests
> > from them (and perhaps one or two more) when they were relatively new.
> > Very simple mechanism and always worked - ONCE I'd gotten them to work
> > the 1st time. I can't imagine what could fail (but clearly something
> > must).
> >
> > Marshall
> > --
> > Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
> > "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5
> > turbo 237kmi
> >
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> 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
>
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Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
Marshall -
You said the operative word -- WHEN THEY WERE NEW.
T'aint like that anymore.
It's like me and you -- parts don't work like they used to when they were
new. And I have knees that will "testify" if you want them to.
Don
On 11/8/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> LT Don wrote:
> > Marshall --
> >
> > I am 6'4" and 200 lbs., and in fairly good shape. I am yet to yank out
> the
> > shot-gun side headrest on my 240D. Trust me, I've tried. If I push any
> > harder on the button, Deb's seat will be part of the air cleaner. If I
> yank
> > any harder on the headrest, I will be admitted inpatient for hernia
> surgery.
> >
> >
> > I simply think that with the passage of time (in the case of my car,
> almost
> > 30 years) this stuff sticks.
>
> I've only owned 3 123s ('80, '82 & '85) or tried to remove the headrests
> from them (and perhaps one or two more) when they were relatively new.
> Very simple mechanism and always worked - ONCE I'd gotten them to work
> the 1st time. I can't imagine what could fail (but clearly something
> must).
>
> Marshall
> --
> Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
> "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5
> turbo 237kmi
>
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Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
LT Don wrote:
Marshall --
I am 6'4" and 200 lbs., and in fairly good shape. I am yet to yank out the
shot-gun side headrest on my 240D. Trust me, I've tried. If I push any
harder on the button, Deb's seat will be part of the air cleaner. If I yank
any harder on the headrest, I will be admitted inpatient for hernia surgery.
I simply think that with the passage of time (in the case of my car, almost
30 years) this stuff sticks.
I've only owned 3 123s ('80, '82 & '85) or tried to remove the headrests
from them (and perhaps one or two more) when they were relatively new.
Very simple mechanism and always worked - ONCE I'd gotten them to work
the 1st time. I can't imagine what could fail (but clearly something must).
Marshall
--
Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
"der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5
turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
Marshall -- I am 6'4" and 200 lbs., and in fairly good shape. I am yet to yank out the shot-gun side headrest on my 240D. Trust me, I've tried. If I push any harder on the button, Deb's seat will be part of the air cleaner. If I yank any harder on the headrest, I will be admitted inpatient for hernia surgery. I simply think that with the passage of time (in the case of my car, almost 30 years) this stuff sticks. Stuff happens. -- Don On 11/8/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alex Chamberlain wrote: > > So what does it mean when you push the button and pull and pull and > > pull the headrests but nothing happens? Is there a common failure > > mode in the release mechanism? This is on my 124 but I imagine (for > > no good reason) that it's similar to the 123. I hate to pull off the > > seatback unless I know what I'm doing in there---have done it once > > before and didn't enjoy it at all. > > To my knowledge the only common failure mode for a 123 is that either > you're not pushing hard enough or not pulling up on the headrest hard > enough. Move the rest off the stop slightly BEFORE you push in and hold > the button and then pull up on the headrest aggressively. A 124 is > different. > > Marshall > -- > Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) > "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 > turbo 237kmi > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
Alex Chamberlain wrote: So what does it mean when you push the button and pull and pull and pull the headrests but nothing happens? Is there a common failure mode in the release mechanism? This is on my 124 but I imagine (for no good reason) that it's similar to the 123. I hate to pull off the seatback unless I know what I'm doing in there---have done it once before and didn't enjoy it at all. To my knowledge the only common failure mode for a 123 is that either you're not pushing hard enough or not pulling up on the headrest hard enough. Move the rest off the stop slightly BEFORE you push in and hold the button and then pull up on the headrest aggressively. A 124 is different. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
Don't lose sight of how long it has been since someone pushed that button! On 11/7/05, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's hell and it sucks and that's it. Sometimes you've gotta pull like > crazy and push like hell, but it'll eventually come off. I think MB > designed them to only ocme off as a last resort, which kind of sucks > in a wagon when you want to extend the cargo space. > > Tim > 1982 300TD Moby > > On 11/7/05, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So what does it mean when you push the button and pull and pull and > > pull the headrests but nothing happens? Is there a common failure > > mode in the release mechanism? This is on my 124 but I imagine (for > > no good reason) that it's similar to the 123. I hate to pull off the > > seatback unless I know what I'm doing in there---have done it once > > before and didn't enjoy it at all. > > > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
It's hell and it sucks and that's it. Sometimes you've gotta pull like crazy and push like hell, but it'll eventually come off. I think MB designed them to only ocme off as a last resort, which kind of sucks in a wagon when you want to extend the cargo space. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/7/05, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what does it mean when you push the button and pull and pull and > pull the headrests but nothing happens? Is there a common failure > mode in the release mechanism? This is on my 124 but I imagine (for > no good reason) that it's similar to the 123. I hate to pull off the > seatback unless I know what I'm doing in there---have done it once > before and didn't enjoy it at all. >
Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
So what does it mean when you push the button and pull and pull and pull the headrests but nothing happens? Is there a common failure mode in the release mechanism? This is on my 124 but I imagine (for no good reason) that it's similar to the 123. I hate to pull off the seatback unless I know what I'm doing in there---have done it once before and didn't enjoy it at all. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo with sheepskins also waiting to be installed On 11/7/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a little button you push in the backrest to release it. You > should be able to see a little dent where its at. > > Jim Vogel wrote: > > > I bought some sheepskin seat covers for my 84 300D but I can't figure > > out how to get the headrests detached so that they'll fit over the > > seats. Is it just brute force or is there an unlock button somewhere?
Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
There is a little button you push in the backrest to release it. You should be able to see a little dent where its at. Jim Vogel wrote: I bought some sheepskin seat covers for my 84 300D but I can't figure out how to get the headrests detached so that they'll fit over the seats. Is it just brute force or is there an unlock button somewhere? Also, I think on the driver's side seat I need to remove the armrest too... Any and all suggestions are most welcome. Thanks, Jim __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
I'm not driving it! It's occupying precious space in my driveway, sitting idle until I can get the new waterpump in... Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/7/05, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you have to ask where the button is, you don't deserve to drive the car! > ;) > > On 11/7/05, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > OH, the headache returns just thinking about how frustrated I was when > > trying to figure that one out. > > > > What the other guys say it true. There's a tiny round button, about > > 1/4 inch wide in the middle of the seatback about 8 inches from the > > seat top. Push hard, it's not a terribly spongy button while lifting > > the headrest simulateously. I think they could've made this feature a > > little easier to use and find... > > > > Tim > > 1982 300TD Moby > > > > On 11/7/05, Jim Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I bought some sheepskin seat covers for my 84 300D but I can't figure > > > out how to get the headrests detached so that they'll fit over the > > > seats. Is it just brute force or is there an unlock button somewhere? > > > Also, I think on the driver's side seat I need to remove the armrest > > > too... > > > > > > Any and all suggestions are most welcome. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > ___ > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > > > ___ > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
If you have to ask where the button is, you don't deserve to drive the car! ;) On 11/7/05, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OH, the headache returns just thinking about how frustrated I was when > trying to figure that one out. > > What the other guys say it true. There's a tiny round button, about > 1/4 inch wide in the middle of the seatback about 8 inches from the > seat top. Push hard, it's not a terribly spongy button while lifting > the headrest simulateously. I think they could've made this feature a > little easier to use and find... > > Tim > 1982 300TD Moby > > On 11/7/05, Jim Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I bought some sheepskin seat covers for my 84 300D but I can't figure > > out how to get the headrests detached so that they'll fit over the > > seats. Is it just brute force or is there an unlock button somewhere? > > Also, I think on the driver's side seat I need to remove the armrest > > too... > > > > Any and all suggestions are most welcome. > > > > Thanks, > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > ___ > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
OH, the headache returns just thinking about how frustrated I was when trying to figure that one out. What the other guys say it true. There's a tiny round button, about 1/4 inch wide in the middle of the seatback about 8 inches from the seat top. Push hard, it's not a terribly spongy button while lifting the headrest simulateously. I think they could've made this feature a little easier to use and find... Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/7/05, Jim Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I bought some sheepskin seat covers for my 84 300D but I can't figure > out how to get the headrests detached so that they'll fit over the > seats. Is it just brute force or is there an unlock button somewhere? > Also, I think on the driver's side seat I need to remove the armrest > too... > > Any and all suggestions are most welcome. > > Thanks, > Jim > > > > > __ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
There is an unlock button on the back of the seat. Feel around the upper middle for it, then push. It will release the headrests. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Vogel Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d I bought some sheepskin seat covers for my 84 300D but I can't figure out how to get the headrests detached so that they'll fit over the seats. Is it just brute force or is there an unlock button somewhere? Also, I think on the driver's side seat I need to remove the armrest too... Any and all suggestions are most welcome. Thanks, Jim __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
Jim, On the back of each seat there is a button recessed under the right headrest post about six/eight inches down from the seat top. Feel around until you not an opening in the hard material. Press and pull up. Voila! As for the arm rest... I think you need to remove the large round disk and that will enable you to get to the "bolt" that holds the arm rest in place. Hope this helps.. Chuck Landenberger Phoenix AZ 1980 300SD On Nov 7, 2005, at 11:29 AM, Jim Vogel wrote: I bought some sheepskin seat covers for my 84 300D but I can't figure out how to get the headrests detached so that they'll fit over the seats. Is it just brute force or is there an unlock button somewhere? Also, I think on the driver's side seat I need to remove the armrest too... Any and all suggestions are most welcome. Thanks, Jim __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] removing headrests from a 123 300d
I bought some sheepskin seat covers for my 84 300D but I can't figure out how to get the headrests detached so that they'll fit over the seats. Is it just brute force or is there an unlock button somewhere? Also, I think on the driver's side seat I need to remove the armrest too... Any and all suggestions are most welcome. Thanks, Jim __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
