[MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread Allan Streib
Bought some new fuel return line from Rusty (the small diameter,
fabric-wrapped line that runs between the injectors) since several
sections of mine are damp with fuel.  It looks like this is just a
push-on fit, but I tugged at one and it did not pull off.  The fabric
seemed to be acting like a chinese finger handcuff -- tightening as I
pulled.  Do I need to cut off the old line, or is there some secret
technique to removing it?  Or just pull harder?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230



Re: [MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread Jim Cathey

seemed to be acting like a chinese finger handcuff -- tightening as I
pulled.  Do I need to cut off the old line, or is there some secret
technique to removing it?  Or just pull harder?


Brute force.  Just be sure not to nick or mar the hose fittings
when you do finally take pliers or a knife to it.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Take a pair of good needle nosed pliers a grip the line off-center so 
that it will tear off the nipple as you crush the part between the 
jaws.  A bit harder to describe than do, but what you want is to grab 
enough of the hose beside the nipple to cause it to fail without 
gouging into the nipple.


If the hose has become glassy and hard, crunch it off in a similar way, 
but check to make sure a chunk hasn't stuck somewhere and stayed on the 
nipple -- it will neatly slide the new hose open.


Don't try to just pull the hose off, you can bend the nipple.

Peter




Re: [MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread OK Don

Slice through the fabric, but not all the way through the rubber line
- twist a lot, pull, etc. -

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sit there.
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Re: [MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread kevin kraly
I did have a time with a couple of them on my 300D and 300CD.  The 'cD had 
the worst ones which were TOTALLY dried out and broke into pieces at the 
slightest tug, of course, right at the barb!  I picked at them gently with a 
knife which did the trick.  There's no Diesel smell under the hood of the 
300SD, so she's good for now although I have enough line to do the job when 
the time comes.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula 





Re: [MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread ts

Allan

a pair of 45 degree angle needle nose pliers is what I use.  Kind of use a 
grip, left and right spin, and pull move.  When they pop off try not to have 
the spaz reaction pliers kick  back and hit the little beveled ends o the 
injector nozzle.  Also check that your 17 mm nuts (?) of your hard line fuel 
rack are tight an not causing the false indication that the return lines are 
leaking.  I have had this happen to me in the past


Regards Tom Scordato
1979240D
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Bought some new fuel return line from Rusty (the small diameter,
fabric-wrapped line that runs between the injectors) since several
sections of mine are damp with fuel.  It looks like this is just a
push-on fit, but I tugged at one and it did not pull off.  The fabric
seemed to be acting like a chinese finger handcuff -- tightening as I
pulled.  Do I need to cut off the old line, or is there some secret
technique to removing it?  Or just pull harder?

Allan
--
1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread Curt Raymond

I delayed in doing them on my 190D when they were merely seeping and then got 
to do them when one fell off...
That one got held back on with a zip tie so I could make it home. All the 
others were ready to fall off.

-Curt

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I did have a time with a couple of them on my 300D and 300CD.  The 'cD 
had 
the worst ones which were TOTALLY dried out and broke into pieces at 
the 
slightest tug, of course, right at the barb!  I picked at them gently 
with a 
knife which did the trick.  There's no Diesel smell under the hood of 
the 
300SD, so she's good for now although I have enough line to do the job 
when 
the time comes.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula 

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Got to see the car today, quirky is just right.
I was surprised how peppy it felt for being such a small engine, of course the 
whole car brings tiny to a new (small) level.
According to the folks on Saabnet I should be able to see 25mpg which is what I 
was looking for, however this car is decidedly not.

Parking brake doesn't work (no big deal) and the underside appears to be 
totally rotten (major big problem).

If it weren't for the major underside rust I might be interested. I still 
might, its at a friend's place (not the seller's) and I may go back Wednesday 
and give it another hard look. It could be what I thought was major rot is just 
one bad rocker but I doubt it.

That and a column shift... Wow, I *thought* I knew how to work one of those...

-Curt

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Hi, Curt.
IF the car is truly rost frei and the transmission shifts properly, 
the only other thing that might be needed is an exhaust. This is from 
memory and CRS is creeping up on me. I've had 2 stroke and V4 96 
sedans and a V4 95 wagon and a V4 97.  You met Luke once and he has a 
lot of very used Saab parts and 2 horrible 97's buried under his 
firewood. OCD. I loved my 66 V4 96 silver engine and my 67 95 blue 
engine cars. The 2 strokes were good esp. the Monte Carlo. Makes like 
a Yamaha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! (Sorry only 4 speed.).
No, I'm not nuts, it's just that I view the world from a slightly 
different angle!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread andrew strasfogel

Slice through the fabric covering the nipple VERY carefully with one
of those retractable razor knives and peel it apart and off.

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I delayed in doing them on my 190D when they were merely seeping and then got 
to do them when one fell off...
That one got held back on with a zip tie so I could make it home. All the 
others were ready to fall off.

-Curt

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I did have a time with a couple of them on my 300D and 300CD.  The 'cD
had
the worst ones which were TOTALLY dried out and broke into pieces at
the
slightest tug, of course, right at the barb!  I picked at them gently
with a
knife which did the trick.  There's no Diesel smell under the hood of
the
300SD, so she's good for now although I have enough line to do the job
when
the time comes.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula

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