[MBZ] Sprinting

2018-01-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Ten year old fleet vans with V6 diesels:

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Re: [MBZ] Sprinting

2011-03-29 Thread Fmiser
> Greg Fiorentino wrote:

> Freightliner has always been the truck division of Mercedes.

No.

In the US though, Mercedes didn't have much of a market until
they bought Freightliner.  But Mercedes had plenty of trucks (or
lorries) "over there".  It seemed to me they supplied
Freightliner with much needed quality.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Sprinting

2011-03-28 Thread Fmiser
> Rich Thomas wrote:

>  I have
> seen them with both Freightliner (which was Volvo?) and MB
> badging, I think the ones here are actually MB grills.

Freighliner was bought by Mercedes about the late 1980s.  The
first truck out under the new influence was the FLD-120.  It was
a major change for the Freightliner brand - it was rather good.
And became one of the better selling trucks for a number of
years.

Volvo hooked up with White, which was connected with
Freightliner before Freighliner hooked up with Mercedes.  Volvo
is now in the USA on their own.  The White name may be owned by
someone, but the brand is effectively gone.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Sprinting

2011-03-27 Thread Kevin Kraly
It was called the Chicken Tax.  any light truck that was imported into the 
USA was subject to it. It was circumvented by   having them shipped without 
beds and have them installed once they arrive.


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 



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Re: [MBZ] Sprinting

2011-03-27 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Freightliner has always been the truck division of Mercedes.

Greg

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They are actually final-assembled here in the Charleston SC area, bits 
come in and they are put together in some fashion (I read something 
about how that works, but it did not make a lot of sense, probably some 
tax thing or something).  I have seen them with both Freightliner (which 
was Volvo?) and MB badging, I think the ones here are actually MB grills.

--R

On 3/27/11 11:35 AM, Allan Streib wrote:
> Dieselhead<126die...@gmail.com>  writes:
>
>
>> Unfortunately, around this part of the country, most of what you see
>> are fedex.  There was a dogde stealership in the state center that was
>> a sprinter dealer, but now there is no dealer in the state.  I went to
>> a dogde stealership in St Louis maybe 1 1/2 year ago and they were
>> closing out the remaining sprinters, but the passenger models were
>> over $60k on closeout.
>>  
> Where *are* they sold these days?  Are MB still making them for Dodge,
> after the disolution of Daimler-Chrysler?  Are they still sold with
> Freightliner badging?
>
> I wonder the same thing about the VW Routan... did that partnership
> survive the bailout of Chrysler?
>
> Allan
>

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Re: [MBZ] sprinting

2011-03-27 Thread Dieselhead
We had a frod cube van with a 12' box and it got 10, the same as the 
other trucks up to 1.5 ton trucks.



 > ...Hm... the "standard height" roof looks a bit more reasonable.  Don't

 think I've ever seen one on the road...


Fedex, DHL and UPS have fleets of them. I ahd a plumber in a while back who
was driving one. He said he was getting 14-16 mpg around town which is at
least twice what a Ford box van would see.

RLE
  


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Re: [MBZ] sprinting

2011-03-27 Thread RELNGSON
> ...Hm... the "standard height" roof looks a bit more reasonable.  Don't
> think I've ever seen one on the road...
> 
Fedex, DHL and UPS have fleets of them. I ahd a plumber in a while back who 
was driving one. He said he was getting 14-16 mpg around town which is at 
least twice what a Ford box van would see.

RLE
>  
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sprinting

2011-03-27 Thread Mitch Haley

Allan Streib wrote:


There is some kind of long-standing import tax on trucks (no doubt a
political favor from years ago when Toyota and Datsun/Nissan were eating
Ford and Chevy's lunch on compact pickups), which can be avoided in some
fashion by bringing in parts and doing the final assembly in the USA.



Or by permanently mounting passenger seats in the cargo bed. (a la Subaru BRAT)

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Re: [MBZ] Sprinting

2011-03-27 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas  writes:

> They are actually final-assembled here in the Charleston SC area, bits
> come in and they are put together in some fashion (I read something
> about how that works, but it did not make a lot of sense, probably
> some tax thing or something).  I have seen them with both Freightliner
> (which was Volvo?) and MB badging, I think the ones here are actually
> MB grills.

There is some kind of long-standing import tax on trucks (no doubt a
political favor from years ago when Toyota and Datsun/Nissan were eating
Ford and Chevy's lunch on compact pickups), which can be avoided in some
fashion by bringing in parts and doing the final assembly in the USA.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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[MBZ] Sprinting

2011-03-27 Thread Rich Thomas
They are actually final-assembled here in the Charleston SC area, bits 
come in and they are put together in some fashion (I read something 
about how that works, but it did not make a lot of sense, probably some 
tax thing or something).  I have seen them with both Freightliner (which 
was Volvo?) and MB badging, I think the ones here are actually MB grills.


--R

On 3/27/11 11:35 AM, Allan Streib wrote:

Dieselhead<126die...@gmail.com>  writes:

   

Unfortunately, around this part of the country, most of what you see
are fedex.  There was a dogde stealership in the state center that was
a sprinter dealer, but now there is no dealer in the state.  I went to
a dogde stealership in St Louis maybe 1 1/2 year ago and they were
closing out the remaining sprinters, but the passenger models were
over $60k on closeout.
 

Where *are* they sold these days?  Are MB still making them for Dodge,
after the disolution of Daimler-Chrysler?  Are they still sold with
Freightliner badging?

I wonder the same thing about the VW Routan... did that partnership
survive the bailout of Chrysler?

Allan
   


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Re: [MBZ] Sprinting

2011-03-26 Thread OK Don
Hmm - sounds like home!

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Peter Hertzing  wrote:

> We really enjoy spending a week in it and leaving the kids with my parents.
> Heat, Hot water, refrigerator - bed, really it is a blast.
>
> --
>
OK Don
2001 ML320
1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] Sprinting

2011-03-26 Thread Peter Hertzing
New I'm sure it was near 80K = but they bought this one about 6 years ago
for 25K.  It is honestly great.  We love it.  We had a roadtrek before the
little tricycle motors came along - but now its a popup for us.

We really enjoy spending a week in it and leaving the kids with my parents.
Heat, Hot water, refrigerator - bed, really it is a blast.

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> Peter Hertzing  writes:
>
> > Not to mention the Gas Powered Class B motor home market -
> >
> > Just got back from a 2500 mile round trip to Cape Hatterus in North
> Carolina
> > in my parents 1996 Pleasure way Dodge B3500 Camper - 23MPG Sure would
> have
> > been nice.
>
> What did theirs cost?  An Airstream Sprinter Class B is pushing $80K.
> You can buy a lot of gas for that money.
>
> Allan
>
> --
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Re: [MBZ] Sprinting

2011-03-26 Thread Allan Streib
Peter Hertzing  writes:

> Not to mention the Gas Powered Class B motor home market -
>
> Just got back from a 2500 mile round trip to Cape Hatterus in North Carolina
> in my parents 1996 Pleasure way Dodge B3500 Camper - 23MPG Sure would have
> been nice.

What did theirs cost?  An Airstream Sprinter Class B is pushing $80K.
You can buy a lot of gas for that money.

Allan

-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Sprinting

2011-03-26 Thread Peter Hertzing
Not to mention the Gas Powered Class B motor home market -

Just got back from a 2500 mile round trip to Cape Hatterus in North Carolina
in my parents 1996 Pleasure way Dodge B3500 Camper - 23MPG Sure would have
been nice.

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 6:18 PM,  wrote:

> > ...Whats wrong with a Sprinter?
> >
> > Awfully big for what most folks would want in a van.  It's really a
> > small-end commercial vehicle...
> >
> Sprinters come in several sizes but all have the same little diesel engine
> and wouldn't do well with real weight. But, they are everywhere and seem to
> have killed the gas powered box van market.
>
> RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Sprinting

2011-03-26 Thread RELNGSON
> ...Whats wrong with a Sprinter?
> 
> Awfully big for what most folks would want in a van.  It's really a 
> small-end commercial vehicle...
> 
Sprinters come in several sizes but all have the same little diesel engine 
and wouldn't do well with real weight. But, they are everywhere and seem to 
have killed the gas powered box van market.

RLE
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