Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
I think I would find some new good transmission mechanics. Allen Sawyer wrote: I have been told by several good transmission mechanics that it does not hurt to over fill an auto transmission. If it is too full, it will just overflow thru the dipstick tube and not damage the trans. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2400 - Release Date: 09/28/09 05:51:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2400 - Release Date: 09/28/09 05:51:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
Allan S. wrote: I have been told by several good transmission mechanics that it does not hurt to over fill an auto transmission. If it is too full, it will just overflow thru the dipstick tube and not damage the trans. That is certainly not true on GM transmissions. When they are overfilled, the fluid gets churned up too much, it gets frothy (which increases its volume) and it starts exiting out the overflow vents. Once it gets frothy, it will dump out TOO MUCH fluid and you end up with a transmission that ironically now is too low on fluid and they can fail. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
I did not write that... On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:33 -0500, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Allan S. wrote: I have been told by several good transmission mechanics that it does not hurt to over fill an auto transmission. If it is too full, it will just overflow thru the dipstick tube and not damage the trans. That is certainly not true on GM transmissions. When they are overfilled, the fluid gets churned up too much, it gets frothy (which increases its volume) and it starts exiting out the overflow vents. Once it gets frothy, it will dump out TOO MUCH fluid and you end up with a transmission that ironically now is too low on fluid and they can fail. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] trans fluid level
I have been told by several good transmission mechanics that it does not hurt to over fill an auto transmission. If it is too full, it will just overflow thru the dipstick tube and not damage the trans. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Trans fluid level on 300E
Hey everyone, Checking the fluid on the trans. Want to make sure I'm doing it right. Hand books says running in P, hot. In this state, it reads low, but once the car is turned off, the level reads above the high line. I thought the book said when turned off of the fluid has slightly cooled, it should be a half inch below the low line? Need a little clarifications.and talk slow, I'm dumb. :-) Car is an '88 300E gaser. 3.0L engine. Thanks everyone, Ed
Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid level on 300E
Oddly chasing a transmission shift problem on my sedan I had to go out and check the transmission fluid. Normally I don't do that because of the risk of introducing contaminants. Ya lint free micro-fiber cloth etc... In checking the w140 owners manual it says, run car til hot. I've heard 15-20 minutes. Park, leave in park , let idle 1-2 minutes, keep motor running, unlatch dipstick head, remove, clean, put stick back in all the way down. Check fluid, it was hard to read, mine seemed to imply it was above the high line. Further to this it says: To check fluid when COLD, like when driven from the lot into the shop after being parked all night, it would be I think it said 10mm below low line. On May 14, 2007, at 9:56 AM, E M wrote: Hey everyone, Checking the fluid on the trans. Want to make sure I'm doing it right. Hand books says running in P, hot. In this state, it reads low, but once the car is turned off, the level reads above the high line. I thought the book said when turned off of the fluid has slightly cooled, it should be a half inch below the low line? Need a little clarifications.and talk slow, I'm dumb. :-) Car is an '88 300E gaser. 3.0L engine. Thanks everyone, Ed ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com John 1983 300TDt 368k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 180k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid level on 300E
The only level I would rust is the hot running method. The fluid must fill the valve body passages as well as the torque converter and any other areas where fluid is needed. IMHO, as fluid drains back after the engine is turned off and begins to cool, the fluid would flow in a non-consistant manner making the checking of fluid level inaccurate. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: [MBZ] Trans fluid level on 300E Hey everyone, Checking the fluid on the trans. Want to make sure I'm doing it right. Hand books says running in P, hot. In this state, it reads low, but once the car is turned off, the level reads above the high line. I thought the book said when turned off of the fluid has slightly cooled, it should be a half inch below the low line? Need a little clarifications.and talk slow, I'm dumb. :-) Car is an '88 300E gaser. 3.0L engine. Thanks everyone, Ed ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/803 - Release Date: 5/13/2007 12:17 PM
[MBZ] trans fluid level.
Hi Everyone, Mentioned a slight drip from the trans a while back. First hot day here today, and drove the car for about half hour. That trans dipstick gets hot. hee hee. On the lower part of the stick, there are a couple of bends and what not, and also two lines scrolled in the stick. With the car warm, in Park with just under 1000 rpm, where should the level be? Also, what is the difference in litres between the two lines? Car is a '88 E300 with a gas engine by the way...3.0 litre. Now, back to working on the timing belt I broke the other day on the old Sunbird. Thanks everyone. Ed 300E
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level.
with an engine at operating temp (85 degrees), fluid should be at the top line. Difference between the lines is ~ 0.3L IIRC On 4/22/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Mentioned a slight drip from the trans a while back. First hot day here today, and drove the car for about half hour. That trans dipstick gets hot. hee hee. On the lower part of the stick, there are a couple of bends and what not, and also two lines scrolled in the stick. With the car warm, in Park with just under 1000 rpm, where should the level be? Also, what is the difference in litres between the two lines? Car is a '88 E300 with a gas engine by the way...3.0 litre. Now, back to working on the timing belt I broke the other day on the old Sunbird. Thanks everyone. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level.
Thanks Sunil. Needs just a little top up I think. :-) Ed 300E On 22/04/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with an engine at operating temp (85 degrees), fluid should be at the top line. Difference between the lines is ~ 0.3L IIRC On 4/22/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Mentioned a slight drip from the trans a while back. First hot day here today, and drove the car for about half hour. That trans dipstick gets hot. hee hee. On the lower part of the stick, there are a couple of bends and what not, and also two lines scrolled in the stick. With the car warm, in Park with just under 1000 rpm, where should the level be? Also, what is the difference in litres between the two lines? Car is a '88 E300 with a gas engine by the way...3.0 litre. Now, back to working on the timing belt I broke the other day on the old Sunbird. Thanks everyone. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
Kaleb, up there was lots of free beer and hot women to dance with. More commonly known as a wedding party for my cousin. On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:37:20 -0600, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Off to KS and IL with the SD and freshly topped off Trans fluid. Turned out I was about 2.25 qts low. Shifts exacly like normal now.going to STL for Fri/Sa/Sun. Laters! Luther On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:44:23 -0600, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther typed: off to KS and IL IL? I'm sorry. Illinois is a good place to be FROM. Bob Rentfro (1982 Illinois refugee) '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
Well Im glad to see you made it back in one piece. Luther Gulseth wrote: Kaleb, up there was lots of free beer and hot women to dance with. More commonly known as a wedding party for my cousin. On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:37:20 -0600, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
Off to KS and IL with the SD and freshly topped off Trans fluid. Turned out I was about 2.25 qts low. Shifts exacly like normal now.going to STL for Fri/Sa/Sun. Laters! Luther On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:44:23 -0600, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther typed: off to KS and IL IL? I'm sorry. Illinois is a good place to be FROM. Bob Rentfro (1982 Illinois refugee) '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
whats going on up there? Luther Gulseth wrote: Off to KS and IL with the SD and freshly topped off Trans fluid. Turned out I was about 2.25 qts low. Shifts exacly like normal now.going to STL for Fri/Sa/Sun. Laters! Luther On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:44:23 -0600, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther typed: off to KS and IL IL? I'm sorry. Illinois is a good place to be FROM. Bob Rentfro (1982 Illinois refugee) '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
it was. The fluid was about 2qt low, I just couldn't tell easliy how low it really was and it took me a bit to get the fluid high enough to warm the trans up. It's driving as normal now :D Luther, off to KS and IL in Gold Dust. On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:09:06 -0600, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther; FWIW, I am afraid that your slippage is not neccessarily ATF level related. My '82 300SD with a 722.303 tranny has bad leaks and it always is low on ATF. The higher I fill it, the worse it leaks. Low is not a problem, overfilling is B A A A D. I don't even check it anymore. I just carry a quart of ATF and a funnel in the trunk. When it gets too low I know because it stays in first gear. I pour the quart in and I'm going again for months. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
Luther typed: off to KS and IL IL? I'm sorry. Illinois is a good place to be FROM. Bob Rentfro (1982 Illinois refugee) '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ
[MBZ] trans fluid level
when a problem occurs, like my hard trans cooler line having a BAD leak,
car ('83 300SD) being towed home, no accurate idea of the amounts of fluid
lost.how does one tell how much fluid to add back into the system?
When the car was cold/off after the repair, I could see fluid on the very
bottom of the dip stick, so I added about a quart in small increments with
the engine running. I tried driving about 1-2 miles, and down hill it
seemed ok, but did slip a bit. Coming back up the gentle hill, it was
slipping constantly. I'm going to check the fluid level in the AM when
it's cold and see where it lies. How do I tell by the dip stick how much
fluid is needed? I've done several fluid changes, but that's easier on my
brain...this is new territory.
Also, what are the differences in a overfilled and underfilled trans? How
will each one act? I've been through low once, so I kinda know how it
acts, and I'm really curious about how an overfilled tranny acts. TIA
all
--
Luther KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
mine was overfilled by one quart (85 300SD) and I
noticed no difference except an ATF seep...dripping
from seals onto floor. A little more overfilled and
the idiot would have blown my gaskets. Recall a list
member a while back who was overfilled 2 quarts and
got a few miles b4 tranny blew the gaskets.
The manual explains how to check the tranny level -
has to be hot if I recall...like drive 25 miles hot,
then with engine running, after 1-2 minutes of idle,
you check it. I could be remembering this all wrong,
so check the manual or someone who knows better than I
will pipe up. It's still, IMO, very inaccurate,
inconsistent and VERY annoying.
Chris
--- Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
when a problem occurs, like my hard trans cooler
line having a BAD leak,
car ('83 300SD) being towed home, no accurate idea
of the amounts of fluid
lost.how does one tell how much fluid to add
back into the system?
When the car was cold/off after the repair, I could
see fluid on the very
bottom of the dip stick, so I added about a quart in
small increments with
the engine running. I tried driving about 1-2
miles, and down hill it
seemed ok, but did slip a bit. Coming back up the
gentle hill, it was
slipping constantly. I'm going to check the fluid
level in the AM when
it's cold and see where it lies. How do I tell by
the dip stick how much
fluid is needed? I've done several fluid changes,
but that's easier on my
brain...this is new territory.
Also, what are the differences in a overfilled and
underfilled trans? How
will each one act? I've been through low once, so I
kinda know how it
acts, and I'm really curious about how an overfilled
tranny acts. TIA
all
--
Luther KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
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Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
Luther Gulseth wrote:
when a problem occurs, like my hard trans cooler line having a BAD leak,
car ('83 300SD) being towed home, no accurate idea of the amounts of fluid
lost.how does one tell how much fluid to add back into the system?
When the car was cold/off after the repair, I could see fluid on the very
bottom of the dip stick, so I added about a quart in small increments with
the engine running. I tried driving about 1-2 miles, and down hill it
seemed ok, but did slip a bit. Coming back up the gentle hill, it was
slipping constantly. I'm going to check the fluid level in the AM when
it's cold and see where it lies. How do I tell by the dip stick how much
fluid is needed? I've done several fluid changes, but that's easier on my
brain...this is new territory.
Also, what are the differences in a overfilled and underfilled trans? How
will each one act? I've been through low once, so I kinda know how it
acts, and I'm really curious about how an overfilled tranny acts. TIA
all
When you check fluid in the transmission when it's cold (engine started
and running so the torque converter is filled) the level of a 722.3
series transmission should roughly be 10-12 mm below the lower mark on
the dip stick. After you drive for 15+ minutes (to warm the fluid up to
normal operating temp) and check again and the level should be at or
topped up to the upper mark. The difference between the upper and lower
mark is 0.3 liters (~1/3rd qt). An under filled transmission will result
(or make worse) in slipping - especially when cold. Over filling will
result in foaming and jarring shifts when driven hard and this can do a
LOT of damage.
Marshall
--
Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5
turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
So, simply (I'm deathly afraid of an overfill) if the transmission slips,
add more fluid in small amounts until it comfortably stops slipping. At
this point I will be able to drive the 15+ minutes to warm everything up,
and then properly check the fluid. Is this a safe conclusion?
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:18:07 -0600, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Luther Gulseth wrote:
when a problem occurs, like my hard trans cooler line having a BAD leak,
car ('83 300SD) being towed home, no accurate idea of the amounts of
fluid
lost.how does one tell how much fluid to add back into the system?
When the car was cold/off after the repair, I could see fluid on the
very
bottom of the dip stick, so I added about a quart in small increments
with
the engine running. I tried driving about 1-2 miles, and down hill it
seemed ok, but did slip a bit. Coming back up the gentle hill, it was
slipping constantly. I'm going to check the fluid level in the AM when
it's cold and see where it lies. How do I tell by the dip stick how
much
fluid is needed? I've done several fluid changes, but that's easier on
my
brain...this is new territory.
Also, what are the differences in a overfilled and underfilled trans?
How
will each one act? I've been through low once, so I kinda know how it
acts, and I'm really curious about how an overfilled tranny acts. TIA
all
When you check fluid in the transmission when it's cold (engine started
and running so the torque converter is filled) the level of a 722.3
series transmission should roughly be 10-12 mm below the lower mark on
the dip stick. After you drive for 15+ minutes (to warm the fluid up to
normal operating temp) and check again and the level should be at or
topped up to the upper mark. The difference between the upper and lower
mark is 0.3 liters (~1/3rd qt). An under filled transmission will result
(or make worse) in slipping - especially when cold. Over filling will
result in foaming and jarring shifts when driven hard and this can do a
LOT of damage.
Marshall
--
Luther KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
Christopher McCann wrote: mine was overfilled by one quart (85 300SD) and I noticed no difference except an ATF seep...dripping from seals onto floor. A little more overfilled and the idiot would have blown my gaskets. Recall a list member a while back who was overfilled 2 quarts and got a few miles b4 tranny blew the gaskets. The manual explains how to check the tranny level - has to be hot if I recall...like drive 25 miles hot, then with engine running, after 1-2 minutes of idle, you check it. I could be remembering this all wrong, so check the manual or someone who knows better than I will pipe up. It's still, IMO, very inaccurate, inconsistent and VERY annoying. If the vent on top of the transmission is open (it need to be checked and cleaned from time to time to be sure it is open), NOTHING will blow out. It MAY leak out and make a mess though! The big problem with overfilling is foaming and what that does when the transmission shifts - especially under full load! I heard the story about the transmission blowing out - that's HOGWASH! The transmission MAY have failed, but it didn't blow out! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
Luther Gulseth wrote: So, simply (I'm deathly afraid of an overfill) if the transmission slips, add more fluid in small amounts until it comfortably stops slipping. At this point I will be able to drive the 15+ minutes to warm everything up, and then properly check the fluid. Is this a safe conclusion? NO. That won't work because there are a LOT of things besides fluid level that will cause slipping and adding more fluid may make a bigger mess. Add fluid until the levels on the dipstick are correct - and then if the transmission isn't working as it should, it's something OTHER than the fluid level! When cold, the level should be about 10 mm BELOW the lower mark. Hot the level should be at the upper level. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
Ok. When checking fluid on a cold trans, how long should I idle the car to fill the torque converter? Next question, what distance on the dipstick equates to 1/2 pint of fluid? On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:36:40 -0600, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther Gulseth wrote: So, simply (I'm deathly afraid of an overfill) if the transmission slips, add more fluid in small amounts until it comfortably stops slipping. At this point I will be able to drive the 15+ minutes to warm everything up, and then properly check the fluid. Is this a safe conclusion? NO. That won't work because there are a LOT of things besides fluid level that will cause slipping and adding more fluid may make a bigger mess. Add fluid until the levels on the dipstick are correct - and then if the transmission isn't working as it should, it's something OTHER than the fluid level! When cold, the level should be about 10 mm BELOW the lower mark. Hot the level should be at the upper level. Marshall -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
assuming levels are correct AND the tranny vent is clogged - would there be any symptoms? Might this explain why I can never consistently get a correct ATF level reading (too low cold, too high hot)? Chris Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: mine was overfilled by one quart (85 300SD) and I noticed no difference except an ATF seep...dripping from seals onto floor. A little more overfilled and the idiot would have blown my gaskets. Recall a list member a while back who was overfilled 2 quarts and got a few miles b4 tranny blew the gaskets. The manual explains how to check the tranny level - has to be hot if I recall...like drive 25 miles hot, then with engine running, after 1-2 minutes of idle, you check it. I could be remembering this all wrong, so check the manual or someone who knows better than I will pipe up. It's still, IMO, very inaccurate, inconsistent and VERY annoying. If the vent on top of the transmission is open (it need to be checked and cleaned from time to time to be sure it is open), NOTHING will blow out. It MAY leak out and make a mess though! The big problem with overfilling is foaming and what that does when the transmission shifts - especially under full load! I heard the story about the transmission blowing out - that's HOGWASH! The transmission MAY have failed, but it didn't blow out! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 09 06:41:33 2005 Received: from usermail.com ([216.150.205.170]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1EZjeH-0005n4-9A for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 06:41:33 + Received: from Fred (64-251-141-249-dialup-mo.fidnet.com [64.251.141.249]) by usermail.com (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id jA96fJ8P015499 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:41:22 -0700 Received: from 192.168.3.10 (ident=leather) by Fred with smtp (masqmail 0.2.20) id 1EZje3-3nC-00; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 00:41:19 -0600 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 00:42:03 -0600 From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mb-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Usermail-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Usermail-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] Moose! X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 06:41:33 - Stockholm, Sweden -- ... residents of an elderly home in southern Sweden had to deal with a pair of intoxicated moose invaded the premises Read more at: http://wfmynews2.com/watercooler/article.aspx?storyid=51531 Is it Friday yet?? *chuckle* Philip, work'n' too hard
Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
Luther; FWIW, I am afraid that your slippage is not neccessarily ATF level
related.
My '82 300SD with a 722.303 tranny has bad leaks and it always is low on
ATF. The higher I fill it, the worse it leaks.
Low is not a problem, overfilling is B A A A D.
I don't even check it anymore. I just carry a quart of ATF and a funnel in
the trunk. When it gets too low I know because it stays in first gear. I
pour the quart in and I'm going again for months.
On 11/8/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
when a problem occurs, like my hard trans cooler line having a BAD leak,
car ('83 300SD) being towed home, no accurate idea of the amounts of fluid
lost.how does one tell how much fluid to add back into the system?
When the car was cold/off after the repair, I could see fluid on the very
bottom of the dip stick, so I added about a quart in small increments with
the engine running. I tried driving about 1-2 miles, and down hill it
seemed ok, but did slip a bit. Coming back up the gentle hill, it was
slipping constantly. I'm going to check the fluid level in the AM when
it's cold and see where it lies. How do I tell by the dip stick how much
fluid is needed? I've done several fluid changes, but that's easier on my
brain...this is new territory.
Also, what are the differences in a overfilled and underfilled trans? How
will each one act? I've been through low once, so I kinda know how it
acts, and I'm really curious about how an overfilled tranny acts. TIA
all
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Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
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Re: [MBZ] trans fluid level
Christopher McCann wrote: assuming levels are correct AND the tranny vent is clogged - would there be any symptoms? Might this explain why I can never consistently get a correct ATF level reading (too low cold, too high hot)? Not a clue. When I get incorrect readings I insure that I'm reading the stick correctly and if I am, then I correct the fluid level. The vent WILL usually eventually clog just like the fuel line vent commonly clogs. It needs to be checked whenever the car is up in the air and the flex discs or tranny mount is being checked! It's part of routine maintenance. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
