Re: [MBZ] $600E320 almost strands me

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Crank position sensor?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 10:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Last night I was leaving Costco and it would not fire off. Crank fine
> but no petrol explosions.  It had been raining hard when I drove there
> so I was thinking there was some water somewhere, or loose connection to
> something.
>
> Got under the hood and just started jiggling wires and connections that
> I could see and I guess something worked because it fired right off
> then.  Will go look at it more closely today once it warms up a bit.
> CEL light is on so I guess that might provide a clue.
>
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Re: [MBZ] $600E320 almost strands me

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm wondering if that car has a disposable wiring harness that has degraded. 
Haven't researched that for my '95 wagon yet.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Feb 1, 2020 10:52:26 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> Last night I was leaving Costco and it would not fire off. Crank fine
> but no petrol explosions. It had been raining hard when I drove there
> so I was thinking there was some water somewhere, or loose connection to
> something.
> 
> Got under the hood and just started jiggling wires and connections that
> I could see and I guess something worked because it fired right off
> then. Will go look at it more closely today once it warms up a bit.
> CEL light is on so I guess that might provide a clue.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] $600E320 almost strands me

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

What year?  94?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 11:59 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
> I'm wondering if that car has a disposable wiring harness that has
> degraded. Haven't researched that for my '95 wagon yet.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Feb 1, 2020 10:52:26 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  >:
>
> > Last night I was leaving Costco and it would not fire off. Crank fine
> > but no petrol explosions. It had been raining hard when I drove there
> > so I was thinking there was some water somewhere, or loose connection to
> > something.
> >
> > Got under the hood and just started jiggling wires and connections that
> > I could see and I guess something worked because it fired right off
> > then. Will go look at it more closely today once it warms up a bit.
> > CEL light is on so I guess that might provide a clue.
> >
> > --
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Re: [MBZ] $600E320 almost strands me

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I think Floyd's car is a 98 (210).

Max Dillon
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Feb 1, 2020 1:28:30 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes :

> What year? 94?
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 11:59 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> > 
> > I'm wondering if that car has a disposable wiring harness that has
> > degraded. Haven't researched that for my '95 wagon yet.
> > 
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > 
> > Feb 1, 2020 10:52:26 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  > 
> > > :
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Last night I was leaving Costco and it would not fire off. Crank fine
> > > but no petrol explosions. It had been raining hard when I drove there
> > > so I was thinking there was some water somewhere, or loose connection to
> > > something.
> > > 
> > > Got under the hood and just started jiggling wires and connections that
> > > I could see and I guess something worked because it fired right off
> > > then. Will go look at it more closely today once it warms up a bit.
> > > CEL light is on so I guess that might provide a clue.
> > > 
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Re: [MBZ] $600E320 almost strands me

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Then there’s no risk of self-destructing wiring harnesses. That ended in 
mid/late 1995 production.

-D


> On Feb 1, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I think Floyd's car is a 98 (210).
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Feb 1, 2020 1:28:30 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes :
> 
>> What year? 94?
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 11:59 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm wondering if that car has a disposable wiring harness that has
>>> degraded. Haven't researched that for my '95 wagon yet.
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> Feb 1, 2020 10:52:26 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >> 
 :
 
>>> 
>>> 
 Last night I was leaving Costco and it would not fire off. Crank fine
 but no petrol explosions. It had been raining hard when I drove there
 so I was thinking there was some water somewhere, or loose connection to
 something.
 
 Got under the hood and just started jiggling wires and connections that
 I could see and I guess something worked because it fired right off
 then. Will go look at it more closely today once it warms up a bit.
 CEL light is on so I guess that might provide a clue.
 
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Re: [MBZ] $600E320 almost strands me

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Right.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 1:56 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Then there’s no risk of self-destructing wiring harnesses. That ended in
> mid/late 1995 production.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 1, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I think Floyd's car is a 98 (210).
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Feb 1, 2020 1:28:30 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes  >:
> >
> >> What year? 94?
> >>
> >> Dwight Giles Jr.
> >> Wickford RI
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 11:59 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I'm wondering if that car has a disposable wiring harness that has
> >>> degraded. Haven't researched that for my '95 wagon yet.
> >>>
> >>> Max Dillon
> >>> Charleston SC
> >>>
> >>> Feb 1, 2020 10:52:26 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >>>
>  :
> 
> >>>
> >>>
>  Last night I was leaving Costco and it would not fire off. Crank fine
>  but no petrol explosions. It had been raining hard when I drove there
>  so I was thinking there was some water somewhere, or loose connection
> to
>  something.
> 
>  Got under the hood and just started jiggling wires and connections
> that
>  I could see and I guess something worked because it fired right off
>  then. Will go look at it more closely today once it warms up a bit.
>  CEL light is on so I guess that might provide a clue.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] $600E320 almost strands me

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

99.

I went out and put the wifi OBD reader on it.  Had some code for 
secondary air injection system which I cleared.  Car started fine and 
ran ok, threw no codes, all the parameters it could see while running 
looked fine.  I'm guessing there is some loose connector somewhere, 
maybe got wet in the rain, I jiggled everything again, nothing seemed 
particularly amiss.


I put the fancy computer on it, it will not talk to the car through the 
OBD port, it has the round 35 (or whatever) pin connector so I plugged 
that in, DAS read all the systems and showed some faults in ME2-SFI 
(Motor Electonics 2) but when I tried to drill down it started HHTWIN 
which crashes on this computer after I try to read stuff.  I think the 
software is bad, I need to talk to the Chinee and see if I can get that 
sorted.


But the car is running OK and nothing seems to be amiss, it occasionally 
runs rough at idle, might die when I first start it cold, but that is at 
low rpm and smooths out at higher RPM and won't die if I immediately 
give it some gas.  So I don't know at this point exactly what it might 
be as the S/W won't read it. Bah.


--FT

On 2/1/20 1:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Then there’s no risk of self-destructing wiring harnesses. That ended in 
mid/late 1995 production.

-D



On Feb 1, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
wrote:


I think Floyd's car is a 98 (210).

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Feb 1, 2020 1:28:30 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes :


What year? 94?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 11:59 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes 
wrote:



I'm wondering if that car has a disposable wiring harness that has
degraded. Haven't researched that for my '95 wagon yet.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Feb 1, 2020 10:52:26 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
:




Last night I was leaving Costco and it would not fire off. Crank fine
but no petrol explosions. It had been raining hard when I drove there
so I was thinking there was some water somewhere, or loose connection to
something.

Got under the hood and just started jiggling wires and connections that
I could see and I guess something worked because it fired right off
then. Will go look at it more closely today once it warms up a bit.
CEL light is on so I guess that might provide a clue.

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Re: [MBZ] $600E320 almost strands me

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yesterday I drove the car, started twice, no issues.  I get home, jump 
in about an hour later to go out, crankie but no startie.  No CEL.  
Jiggled wires around again, still no starties...  Not sure what the 
issue might be.


Where is the CPS?  I see where this is a common issue, maybe I should 
just swap it.


--FT

On 2/1/20 11:06 AM, Dwight Giles wrote:

Crank position sensor?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 10:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


Last night I was leaving Costco and it would not fire off. Crank fine
but no petrol explosions.  It had been raining hard when I drove
there
so I was thinking there was some water somewhere, or loose
connection to
something.

Got under the hood and just started jiggling wires and connections
that
I could see and I guess something worked because it fired right off
then.  Will go look at it more closely today once it warms up a bit.
CEL light is on so I guess that might provide a clue.

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Re: [MBZ] $600E320 almost strands me

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s located on/in the flywheel housing, typically at or around the 11 o’clock 
position looking rear to front (towards the driver’s side of the engine 
compartment.)

Often tough to see from above.

-D

> On Feb 3, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yesterday I drove the car, started twice, no issues.  I get home, jump in 
> about an hour later to go out, crankie but no startie.  No CEL.  Jiggled 
> wires around again, still no starties...  Not sure what the issue might be.
> 
> Where is the CPS?  I see where this is a common issue, maybe I should just 
> swap it.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 2/1/20 11:06 AM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>> Crank position sensor?
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 10:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>Last night I was leaving Costco and it would not fire off. Crank fine
>>but no petrol explosions.  It had been raining hard when I drove
>>there
>>so I was thinking there was some water somewhere, or loose
>>connection to
>>something.
>> 
>>Got under the hood and just started jiggling wires and connections
>>that
>>I could see and I guess something worked because it fired right off
>>then.  Will go look at it more closely today once it warms up a bit.
>>CEL light is on so I guess that might provide a clue.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] $600E320 almost strands me

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Thanks, I looked it up on Benzworld and found a good post, although the 
pictures seem to be broken, but enough info to figure it out.


--FT

On 2/3/20 1:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

It’s located on/in the flywheel housing, typically at or around the 11 o’clock 
position looking rear to front (towards the driver’s side of the engine 
compartment.)

Often tough to see from above.

-D


On Feb 3, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Yesterday I drove the car, started twice, no issues.  I get home, jump in 
about an hour later to go out, crankie but no startie.  No CEL.  Jiggled wires 
around again, still no starties...  Not sure what the issue might be.

Where is the CPS?  I see where this is a common issue, maybe I should just swap 
it.

--FT


On 2/1/20 11:06 AM, Dwight Giles wrote:
Crank position sensor?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 10:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Last night I was leaving Costco and it would not fire off. Crank fine
but no petrol explosions.  It had been raining hard when I drove
there
so I was thinking there was some water somewhere, or loose
connection to
something.

Got under the hood and just started jiggling wires and connections
that
I could see and I guess something worked because it fired right off
then.  Will go look at it more closely today once it warms up a bit.
CEL light is on so I guess that might provide a clue.

-- --FT


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Re: [MBZ] $600E320 almost strands me

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I've swapped it proactively on this van and prior.   (along with sprk plugs)

Can't find the CPS on any of my  1966 to 1992 Diesels.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
February 3, 2020 at 11:29 AM
Yesterday I drove the car, started twice, no issues.  I get home, jump 
in about an hour later to go out, crankie but no startie.  No CEL. 
Jiggled wires around again, still no starties...  Not sure what the 
issue might be.


Where is the CPS?  I see where this is a common issue, maybe I should 
just swap it.


--FT




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Re: [MBZ] $600E320 almost strands me

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

OK so I went out and jiggled the wire to the CPS and the car fired right 
up and ran fine.  Maybe the sensor is going bad or the wiring/connector 
are lose or something.  I guess I'll order another one, only $25, and 
replace it.  Maybe put some dielectric grease in the connector too if 
there was some water in there from the other evening.


On another accomplishment, I added a bit of oil to the SL and checked 
the coolant, the light had been blinking on occasionally. It did not 
look low but I guess I will add some tomorrow.  I also fixed a hood 
latch which had not been catching well and being a PIMA, turned out the 
little catch that holds the main catch in closed position was all 
goobered up and would not close to catch the catch.  So some spray lube 
and working it a bit got that back in order.  Sprayed the other one too, 
all looks to be in ordnung now.


--FT

On 2/3/20 1:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I've swapped it proactively on this van and prior.   (along with sprk 
plugs)


Can't find the CPS on any of my  1966 to 1992 Diesels.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
February 3, 2020 at 11:29 AM
Yesterday I drove the car, started twice, no issues.  I get home, 
jump in about an hour later to go out, crankie but no startie.  No 
CEL. Jiggled wires around again, still no starties...  Not sure what 
the issue might be.


Where is the CPS?  I see where this is a common issue, maybe I should 
just swap it.


--FT




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