Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

My cousin had one of those Valiants with the push button tranny 
shifter,  (coupe or sedan not a droptop) but it was white with red 
interior just like that one, about the same year.  My uncle bought it 
for him when he was not yet old enough to get a DL, so he kept it at my 
grandparents' house.  I would stay with them summers in the country on 
the farm.  They lived on a gravel road maybe 3/4mi long. He would get in 
that thing and just beat the absolute sh*t out of it driving up and down 
the gravel road, revving to redline then punching the shifter button to 
let it go up one.  It was surprisingly quick (at least to me being maybe 
12yo at the time, he was 14 or 15 I guess).  The thing just kept going 
though.  He would run it out of gas down the road, we would have to walk 
back to the house and either siphon some gas from my granddaddy's 
tractor or talk him into running us into town to fill a can or two.  
We'd go pick up pop bottles along the road to get the 3cent deposits and 
get enough for a few gallons of gas, and our granddaddy might throw in a 
quarter or two (gas being a quarter a gallon that wasn't bad), at least 
until he found the tractor empty.


I got to drive it a coupla times too, that was a thrill, but he wouldn't 
let me beat on it.  He was an aspiring drag racer or something.  He had 
a succession of 60s muscle cars, SS396s and such, spent all his money on 
the cars and street racing them with his buddies and tearing them up 
(one of his SSs caught fire and burned up, I think it might have been a 
Successful Fire though it almost incinerated his girlfriend who probably 
dropped the cig down in the back seat during some, um, automotive 
excitement) and getting into trouble with the cops.  After losing the SS 
he borrowed his sister's Ford Torino and wrecked it, which really really 
set her off as she actually had a decent job and needed the ride.  I'm 
not sure how they ever resolved that, maybe they have not yet come to 
terms on the matter.


He ended up becoming a cop (see how that works?) and in charge of the 
motor pool (go figure).  After retiring from there he was manager at a 
little branch bank in the little town he lived in, and got elected mayor 
of it a coupla times.  He is a lot more sedate now, and really fat, 
though I think he has had like 4 wives, the last one running off a few 
months ago.  He's a good ol boy though, and fambly, so there's that.


Fond memories of that Valiant.

--FT

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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 17:23:42 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> My truck on the other hand has round gauges and the numbers are fairly 
> small. I have to look down and if it is bright and I have sunglasses
> on, it is difficult to see the exact speed. Part of that is probably
> age related and just a matter of my eyes not adjusting as quickly as
> they once did.

Or maybe it's like our '89 Chevy G20 van, where the instruments are
recessed down in holes on the dash. It's hard for me to see them during
the day, too.

When I had the dash apart some months ago and had removed the cover with
the recessed holes, I could see the speedometer and other instruments
excellently at any time of the day or night. The problem of not being able
to see the instruments during the day was just due to horrible design, and
not my eyesight.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I agree with Randy, I like having both. That having been said, my all time
favorite speedo is the barber pole in the early '60's MBs - the 220 finny
that I drove in particular.

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Normally, I would agree with you. I prefer the old round gauges. But, I
> had an 08 Honda Civic for a year and it had the digital speedo up high
> above the rest of the gauges. The tach was round and down lower.
> I found that the digital speedo was very easy to see and it was easier to
> keep track of my speed. The numbers were large and up where I could see
> them without having to look down.
> My truck on the other hand has round gauges and the numbers are fairly
> small. I have to look down and if it is bright and I have sunglasses on, it
> is difficult to see the exact speed. Part of that is probably age related
> and just a matter of my eyes not adjusting as quickly as they once did.
> I would cheerfully have another vehicle with a speedo like the Civic.
>
> RB
>
>
> On 01/11/2017 4:18 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Andrew inquires:
>>
>> ‎Am I the only one who finds these 50 >>year old analog displays superior
 to
 the current state of the art >>electronic/digital readouts and gauges?

>>>
>> To which Curley replied:
>>
>> ‎No! I agree with you wholeheartedly!
>>>
>> Andrew (very liberal)
>> Curly (very conservative)
>>
>> In agreement on something.
>>
>> And that, folks, is what passion for old Mercedes will do.
>>
>> MOMGA!
>>
>> Making Old Mercedes Great Again!
>>
>> Actually common ground is how close relationships are built, and
>> maintained.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Normally, I would agree with you. I prefer the old round gauges. But, I 
had an 08 Honda Civic for a year and it had the digital speedo up high 
above the rest of the gauges. The tach was round and down lower.
I found that the digital speedo was very easy to see and it was easier 
to keep track of my speed. The numbers were large and up where I could 
see them without having to look down.
My truck on the other hand has round gauges and the numbers are fairly 
small. I have to look down and if it is bright and I have sunglasses on, 
it is difficult to see the exact speed. Part of that is probably age 
related and just a matter of my eyes not adjusting as quickly as they 
once did.

I would cheerfully have another vehicle with a speedo like the Civic.

RB

On 01/11/2017 4:18 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Andrew inquires:


‎Am I the only one who finds these 50 >>year old analog displays superior to
the current state of the art >>electronic/digital readouts and gauges?


To which Curley replied:


‎No! I agree with you wholeheartedly!

Andrew (very liberal)
Curly (very conservative)

In agreement on something.

And that, folks, is what passion for old Mercedes will do.

MOMGA!

Making Old Mercedes Great Again!

Actually common ground is how close relationships are built, and maintained.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Andrew inquires:

>>‎Am I the only one who finds these 50 >>year old analog displays superior to
>> the current state of the art >>electronic/digital readouts and gauges?


To which Curley replied:

>‎No! I agree with you wholeheartedly!

Andrew (very liberal)
Curly (very conservative) 

In agreement on something. 

And that, folks, is what passion for old Mercedes will do. 

MOMGA! 

Making Old Mercedes Great Again!

Actually common ground is how close relationships are built, and maintained.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

MMM wrote:
> http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2011/03/push-button-gear-selector-switch-aka.html

I remember those, but which one?  ...dunno...
A car company needs to bring that back - nice fun function.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

No!  I agree with you wholeheartedly!Mark the day!  Save the message!

My favorite car is still the 110.110.10.   But I still wish they came 
from the factory with a 5th over, a turbo and a sunroof.   Though I care 
less about the latter now.


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Am I the only one who finds these 50 year old analog displays superior to
the current state of the art electronic/digital readouts and gauges?



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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Beautiful!!  The one inside the steering wheel is a bit much (imagine  the
labor involved in changing the steering wheel!), but I love the others.

Am I the only one who finds these 50 year old analog displays superior to
the current state of the art electronic/digital readouts and gauges?

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 4:02 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2011/03/push-button-gear-
> selector-switch-aka.html
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Not aware of that configuration.  Could you send a link?
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Dwight Giles 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > My father 's 59 Plymouth  had the 'typewriter shift'. I wasn't driving
> > > then but IIRC, it was a delayed response & a bit sloppy.
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > > On Oct 31, 2017 1:35 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> OMG the interior/dash is so cool.  I wonder about fixing the push
> button
> > >> gear PRNDL should it ever misbehave...
> > >>
> > >> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-plymouth-valiant-2/?
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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2011/03/push-button-gear-selector-switch-aka.html

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Not aware of that configuration.  Could you send a link?
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
>
> > My father 's 59 Plymouth  had the 'typewriter shift'. I wasn't driving
> > then but IIRC, it was a delayed response & a bit sloppy.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Oct 31, 2017 1:35 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> OMG the interior/dash is so cool.  I wonder about fixing the push button
> >> gear PRNDL should it ever misbehave...
> >>
> >> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-plymouth-valiant-2/?
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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not aware of that configuration.  Could you send a link?

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Dwight Giles 
wrote:

> My father 's 59 Plymouth  had the 'typewriter shift'. I wasn't driving
> then but IIRC, it was a delayed response & a bit sloppy.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Oct 31, 2017 1:35 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> OMG the interior/dash is so cool.  I wonder about fixing the push button
>> gear PRNDL should it ever misbehave...
>>
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-plymouth-valiant-2/?
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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

My father 's 59 Plymouth  had the 'typewriter shift'. I wasn't driving then
but IIRC, it was a delayed response & a bit sloppy.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Oct 31, 2017 1:35 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> OMG the interior/dash is so cool.  I wonder about fixing the push button
> gear PRNDL should it ever misbehave...
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-plymouth-valiant-
> 2/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2017-10-31
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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

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On 31/10/2017 12:48 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Friend in high school had a '62 Dodge Polara.
I want to say his shift buttons were rectangular, not round, but I could be 
remembering it wrong.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Very cool - thanks.  What model year was the last car with PBs?  How did
they work?

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On October 31, 2017 at 2:12 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I remember oval buttons but not the car.  Chrysler?
>
>
> Could be. These are the Dodge buttons I remember:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2LvHeJbtmE
>
> Check out the 1956 Packard version:
> http://www.classiccarstodayonline.com/2013/05/26/alternate-gear-
> shift-levers-through-the-years/packard-1956-packard/
>
> DeSoto buttons were oval:
> http://www.classiccarstodayonline.com/2013/05/26/alternate-gear-
> shift-levers-through-the-years/1950s-push-button-
> chrysler-gear-shift-lever-2/
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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 31, 2017 at 2:12 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I remember oval buttons but not the car.  Chrysler?


Could be. These are the Dodge buttons I remember:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2LvHeJbtmE

Check out the 1956 Packard version:
http://www.classiccarstodayonline.com/2013/05/26/alternate-gear-shift-levers-through-the-years/packard-1956-packard/

DeSoto buttons were oval:
http://www.classiccarstodayonline.com/2013/05/26/alternate-gear-shift-levers-through-the-years/1950s-push-button-chrysler-gear-shift-lever-2/

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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I remember oval buttons but not the car.  Chrysler?

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> Friend in high school had a '62 Dodge Polara.
> I want to say his shift buttons were rectangular, not round, but I could
> be remembering it wrong.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] '63 Valiant cabriolet - last of the PB transmission cars

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Friend in high school had a '62 Dodge Polara. 
I want to say his shift buttons were rectangular, not round, but I could be 
remembering it wrong. 

Mitch.

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